173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,482 battles Report post #1 Posted September 2, 2017 so can we get the SMS Kaiser Barbarossa and a tier II reward for a month long misson like they did with the Mikasa if you are wondering "what the hell is the SMS Kaiser Barbarossa" then here is a link to the Wiki page on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Kaiser_Barbarossa and here are some stats that are worth noting. -it had above water non-fixed mounts of 450mm torpedoes three on each side -has a 2X2 load out of 240mm guns -has an 18X1 load out of 150mm guns -and has 12 88mm guns -has a 300mm belt I think this would be a great addition to the game and need to happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,675 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,247 posts 43,821 battles Report post #2 Posted September 2, 2017 It might be a great addition to the game, but why does it "need" to happen exactly? You've made no case for this assertion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,482 battles Report post #3 Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Crucis said: It might be a great addition to the game, but why does it "need" to happen exactly? You've made no case for this assertion. ehh my grammer is bad and it is my opinion that all notions should have a tier II pre-dreadnought. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,523 Stauffenberg44 Members 4,335 posts 10,763 battles Report post #4 Posted September 2, 2017 SMS Deutschland or Pommern would also be German pre-dreadnought options: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,523 Stauffenberg44 Members 4,335 posts 10,763 battles Report post #5 Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, skull_122_steel said: ehh my grammer is bad and it is my opinion that all notions should have a tier II pre-dreadnought. Agreed. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,695 [FOXEH] BladedPheonix Alpha Tester 6,887 posts 22,764 battles Report post #6 Posted September 2, 2017 I'd rather have the Schleswig-Holstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Schleswig-Holstein its a more modern design of the 1 OP suggested and it has a bit more historical value. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,695 [FOXEH] BladedPheonix Alpha Tester 6,887 posts 22,764 battles Report post #7 Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, skull_122_steel said: ehh my grammer is bad and it is my opinion that all notions should have a tier II pre-dreadnought. we asked for this in Alpha/Beta Wg never delivered. Personally I find it silly that we don't have tier 2 BBs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [COB45] skull_122_steel Members 1,011 posts 3,482 battles Report post #8 Posted September 2, 2017 45 minutes ago, BladedPheonix said: I'd rather have the Schleswig-Holstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Schleswig-Holstein its a more modern design of the 1 OP suggested and it has a bit more historical value. but this one has torpedos the move and are above water but that one would work to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,675 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,247 posts 43,821 battles Report post #9 Posted September 2, 2017 3 hours ago, skull_122_steel said: ehh my grammer is bad and it is my opinion that all notions should have a tier II pre-dreadnought. I have no problem with the idea that all nations should have a tier 2 pre-dreadnought. None whatsoever. Sounds like a logical argument for a "need" to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
240 Krupp_Sabot Members 1,289 posts 2,399 battles Report post #10 Posted September 2, 2017 Giving it the torps would be a bad idea but otherwise its good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 [M-B] dannyboy1939 [M-B] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 212 posts 11,821 battles Report post #11 Posted September 3, 2017 MOARRRRRGGHH Pre-Dreadnoughts! AYE CAP'N! Pre-pare for board'n! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] dseehafer Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,856 posts 3,680 battles Report post #12 Posted September 3, 2017 30 secondary mounts!! Jeez Germany, take a chill pill on the secondaries.... I wouldn't mind another pre-dred in the game... but if its gonna be a German pred-dred it should really be Schleswig Holstein. If it must be a Kaiser Friederich III class, it should be Kaiser Friederich III herself (or even Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse) with a large modernized bridge. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
139 Drakausa Members 642 posts 782 battles Report post #13 Posted September 3, 2017 The basic idea to have pre-dreadnaughts in WOWS is certainly appealing and desirable. However, as a (former) game designer I have thought about this from a player and playability POV. The ships of that era were slow. The guns were dominated by a weighted RNG most players would find frustrating beyond tolerance. Range finding was totally erratic and variable, communication slow and highly dependent on flag hoists and night signal lights. Turret rotation and ROF are glacial. My point is that WG would certainly have to upgrade the ships performance in almost every area to fit a battle of 15 or 20 minutes. If the battles are not fun or inconclusive except for some points system then the absolute requirement for players to have 'fun' playing the ships would doom the game tier. No one would be much happier than me to see such wonderful warships on the screen and in my port. But the game design required to make these ships playable and fun would be a formidable task for game designers. I may be retired but would jump at the chance to work on such designs but since there is no chance of that then I would like to think that WG has some basic interest in the ships for a future release. BTW - Hey dcee, how are you doing? Congrats for those beautiful pictures of those classic ships. You done good my friend. Close action brawling is the heart and soul of the pre-dreadnaught. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
484 comtedumas ∞ Members 2,039 posts 14,276 battles Report post #14 Posted September 3, 2017 Let's do a really interesting and new pre dreadnought. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battleships_of_Austria-Hungary#/media/File%3AHabsburg_class_battleship.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habsburg-class_battleship Speed: 19 knots(35 km/h; 22 mph) Complement: 638 Armament: 3 × 24 cm (9.4 in)/40Krupp C97 guns 12 × 15 cm (5.9 in)/40Krupp C96 guns 10 × 66 mm (2.6 in) L/45 Skoda guns 6 × 47 mm (1.9 in) L/44 Skoda QF guns 2 × 4.7 cm L/33 cal Skoda QF guns 2 × 45 cm (17.7 in) torpedo tubes Armor: Waterline belt: 180–220 mm (7.1–8.7 in) Deck: 40 mm (1.6 in) Turrets & Casemates: 210–280 mm (8.3–11.0 in) Conning tower: 150 mm (5.9 in) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
484 comtedumas ∞ Members 2,039 posts 14,276 battles Report post #15 Posted September 4, 2017 Oh, and every line should have a Tier II pre-dreadnought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
