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I'm just curious how people are feeling about the Hood as their RN trainer as opposed to the Warspite? I've been more drawn to the Hood but I know it got mixed reviews. In general I want a ship that I can train up captains but also enjoy taking out to battle in.

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I prefer the Hood. Better speed, armour, and AA. i think it's better suited to up-tiering as well.

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Haven't played Hood yet, but I have a Warspite. She is a bit slow for my taste, so Hood being a faster boat and t7's better matchmaking makes me think she would be preferred over Warspite for myself. 

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Nelson.

 

You can get the Nelson for free with FreeXPs and she will be a Premium that you can swap your captains in/out of freely.

 

Hood costs money.

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I have both.  While the Hood is fast and looks neat, it's really lacking in the firepower department.  The guns are so far apart that the shells fly erratically at the target zone, and if they do hit, they don't hit very hard, which means you wont be earning as much exp for your captain as you would in a Warspite, which at least is guaranteed to pick on targets at tier 6.

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1 hour ago, Sventex said:

I have both.  While the Hood is fast and looks neat, it's really lacking in the firepower department.  The guns are so far apart that the shells fly erratically at the target zone, and if they do hit, they don't hit very hard, which means you wont be earning as much exp for your captain as you would in a Warspite, which at least is guaranteed to pick on targets at tier 6.

Warspite does hit harder, but not that much harder.  Hood is much better at getting where she needs to be and the guns do work well enough.  On the balance I think Hood's mobility more than makes up for the difference in gun performance.  As far as the distance between them, just angle (which you should be doing anyways) and that problem is minimized.

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5 minutes ago, Helstrem said:

Warspite does hit harder, but not that much harder.  Hood is much better at getting where she needs to be and the guns do work well enough.  On the balance I think Hood's mobility more than makes up for the difference in gun performance.  As far as the distance between them, just angle (which you should be doing anyways) and that problem is minimized.

Admittedly, I think faster Battleships are better then slower Battleships almost every time, but in the Hood case, she doesn't come across as a predator.  Yes, I can move around, and maybe help the team win more often, but I'm going to be less of a carry then had I been in the Warspite.  Even when my team gets rolled while in the Warspite, I'm scoring a lot of damage, which is good if the goal is to train captains.  In terms of fun factor, Hood wins.  But if we're going on captain training, I think the Warspite is a bit better.

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4 minutes ago, Sventex said:

Admittedly, I think faster Battleships are better then slower Battleships almost every time, but in the Hood case, she doesn't come across as a predator.  Yes, I can move around, and maybe help the team win more often, but I'm going to be less of a carry then had I been in the Warspite.  Even when my team gets rolled while in the Warspite, I'm scoring a lot of damage, which is good if the goal is to train captains.  In terms of fun factor, Hood wins.  But if we're going on captain training, I think the Warspite is a bit better.

 

If Hood's dispersion was better, she'd be f--king amazing.  I can deal with weak shells if it means the ship can at least connect with reliability.

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1 minute ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

 

If Hood's dispersion was better, she'd be f--king amazing.

That or a set of really nice secondary guns.  As is, she feels like a tier 7 Kongo with a AA gimmick.  Strangely ineffective at all ranges, but she looks nice, has a lot of HP and can dodge shells pretty well.  Although I had to put on Main Battery Mod 2 so the guns don't get left behind when I'm evading shells, which reduces my ROF.

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26 minutes ago, Sventex said:

Admittedly, I think faster Battleships are better then slower Battleships almost every time, but in the Hood case, she doesn't come across as a predator.  Yes, I can move around, and maybe help the team win more often, but I'm going to be less of a carry then had I been in the Warspite.  Even when my team gets rolled while in the Warspite, I'm scoring a lot of damage, which is good if the goal is to train captains.  In terms of fun factor, Hood wins.  But if we're going on captain training, I think the Warspite is a bit better.

It can be a bit hard at times, but when she clicks it is damn amazing.  Did 159k the other night, wrecked a Nelson, Scharnhorst and New York and if we hadn't won on points I was going to get the Fuso too.

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I don't have Warspite and can't say much about her but I do own the Hood. I really enjoy playing the Hood and she can hold its own in some up tiers but really shines when its top tier. I've been using the Hood to train my British BB captain so I say it's pretty good and does a decent amount of damage if you position her just right and not in the direct fire from enemies. The Hood is definitely a mid range BB and good at taking out cruisers.

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A strike against Warspite is that she is a Tier VI Premium.  She is a GREAT Tier VI Premium but her tiering screws her over as she is repeatedly looking down the 16" barrels of ships like Colorado, Nagato, Amagi, NC, Alabama. and Nelson.  Even 15" guns are a problem.

 

If it wasn't for the very recent Tier VI Ranked Season, Warspite had all but fallen off on the community's radar of ideal ships.  Only in Ranked where MM isn't screwing her over, is she tops, because in Randoms, she is seeing Tier VIII threats all the time.

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I have Nelson, Hood, and Warspite. All good, but I prefer them in that order.

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Don't have Warsprite and just got Hood but I LOVE it. Awesome ship and it earns XP very fast. I imagine it would train Capt's quite quickly for you and for me it is a lot of fun. Don't know what people are talking about when they complain about the guns? Not a citadel machine against other BB's but gets tons of regular pen damage and big salvos of 10k-20k+ routinely. Smokes CL/CA's with ease. Very accurate guns too.

 

Fast, good guns, good AA, okay secondary's, tanky as heck, great heal, etc.... what's not to love?

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1 hour ago, AdmiralThunder said:

Don't have Warsprite and just got Hood but I LOVE it. Awesome ship and it earns XP very fast. I imagine it would train Capt's quite quickly for you and for me it is a lot of fun. Don't know what people are talking about when they complain about the guns? Not a citadel machine against other BB's but gets tons of regular pen damage and big salvos of 10k-20k+ routinely. Smokes CL/CA's with ease. Very accurate guns too.

 

Fast, good guns, good AA, okay secondary's, tanky as heck, great heal, etc.... what's not to love?

 

I despise Hood's guns.  They remind me of Gneisenau.

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5 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said:

 

I despise Hood's guns.  They remind me of Gneisenau.

Really? I don't like Gneisenau at all, mainly due to the guns, but find Hood's guns to be great. Strange how some people like and do well in a ship and others don't.

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10 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

Really? I don't like Gneisenau at all, mainly due to the guns, but find Hood's guns to be great. Strange how some people like and do well in a ship and others don't.

 

Hood is just inconsistent.  Even if you do hit something, there is no appreciable power.  She's sturdy, fast, but reliable firepower isn't her forte, IMO.

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Hood by virtue of her AA, speed, and massively strong defensive characteristics. IMO Hood is even a better all-around ship than the Nelson- many will disagree though. She's far less susceptible to getting [edited] by CV matchmaking than either Warspite or Nelson. On top of that she has extreme durability, making her less vulnerable to being downtiered. Even if her guns are bad, that hardiness makes her less of a damage pinata.

 

To me that consistency is more valuable for a credit farmer or captain trainer than her maximum carry potential in ideal matchmaking situations. How well a ship deals with worst case scenario (T8 or T9 CV) is more important than how she can club T5s to me. Many people will prefer the brawn of the Nelson which I also understand.

 

That's really between Hood and Nelson though. I wouldn't even consider Warspite. CVs are becoming prevalent again and T6 is just a bad tier for matchmaking. Warspites best days were pre-Bayern.

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On ‎9‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 7:18 PM, HazeGrayUnderway said:

 

Hood is just inconsistent.  Even if you do hit something, there is no appreciable power.  She's sturdy, fast, but reliable firepower isn't her forte, IMO.

I get really good big damage salvos against other BB's (10-20K+)even if not a ton of citadels with it. T5-T9. I citadel Cruisers easily like I do with other BB's. Just a lack of citadels vs other BB's is the only down I see with Hood and as said plenty of big regular pen damage numbers so no complaints. Very accurate too (39% so far).

I get it though. Different people like and do well with different ships. Lots of ships I just despise others love.

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I find the Hood to be floating garbage. The Warspite is workable, the Nelson is good in an environment absent of CVs. If you're looking for a trainer, the Warspite wins by merit of being cheapest, being more well rounded than the other two, and being more typical of the rest of the ships in the line (and therefore relying on the same skills that you want for an RN BB captain). The Nelson is punchy and her heal is hilariously troll. The Hood is fast and...the Hood is fast. She's also under-gunned and shockingly ineffective in most situations. I would advise you to avoid the Hood at all costs.

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