7 joshua011 Members 104 posts 1,186 battles Report post #1 Posted August 31, 2017 Now the Queen Elizabeth is out, is the Warspite worth it anymore? What's the difference between them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76 [F-N-S] ArnoldSchoenberg Members 572 posts 21,861 battles Report post #2 Posted August 31, 2017 Yes. Turret speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71 BirdForce Members 151 posts 20,610 battles Report post #3 Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, USSRichardNixon said: Yes. Turret speed. And better turning circle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
525 RevolutionBlues Beta Testers 978 posts 4,372 battles Report post #4 Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, USSRichardNixon said: Yes. Turret speed. Bet you never thought you'd recommend Warspite because she has faster turret traverse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76 [F-N-S] ArnoldSchoenberg Members 572 posts 21,861 battles Report post #5 Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, RevolutionBlues said: Bet you never thought you'd recommend Warspite because she has faster turret traverse. Before arizona i almost bought it. Later i got it in santa but didnot play much. When played it is fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
525 RevolutionBlues Beta Testers 978 posts 4,372 battles Report post #6 Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, USSRichardNixon said: Before arizona i almost bought it. Later i got it in santa but didnot play much. When played it is fun Yeah I pulled it from a crate too. Always wanted the ship but as with most T6 boats the price didn't seem worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
137 [AR] Aiser50 Members 364 posts 20,937 battles Report post #7 Posted August 31, 2017 I got the Warspite from a Santa $5 box. Now comparing her to the Queen, Spite only has better turret traverse, better turning radius and I think better rudder shift time. Finally, better conceal. The Queen has better secondaries, insane aa for a t6 BB, more HE and AP dmg, more HP and more range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,581 Admiral_Thrawn_1 Members 12,707 posts 14,320 battles Report post #8 Posted August 31, 2017 Warspite also has nice long range Secondaries that were pain in the neck to deal with last Ranked Season if the ship was secondary spec. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,662 [CALM] YamatoA150 Beta Testers 6,838 posts 6,088 battles Report post #9 Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Aiser50 said: The Queen has better secondaries Warspite has 1km more secondary range, better secondary arcs, and better secondary accuracy; remnants of a time when BB secondaries were a bit more accurate than they are currently (w/o Manual Secondaries). QE has better AA. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,337 posts 13,771 battles Report post #10 Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Aiser50 said: I got the Warspite from a Santa $5 box. Now comparing her to the Queen, Spite only has better turret traverse, better turning radius and I think better rudder shift time. Finally, better conceal. The Queen has better secondaries, insane aa for a t6 BB, more HE and AP dmg, more HP and more range. QE most definitely doesn't have better secondaries. What's better is her AA, HE, fire chance, and MG range. While similar, they're very different ships, and they don't play the same. Both are viable beasts. Now, Iron Duke, on the other hand, without that HE, it's worthless. So, to recap, QE and Spite aren't the same, both are beasts, and Duke is junkorama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [SIMP] _cthulhu_ Members 1,518 posts 12,922 battles Report post #11 Posted August 31, 2017 13 hours ago, joshua011 said: Now the Queen Elizabeth is out, is the Warspite worth it anymore? What's the difference between them? The QE has her armour fixed... They still haven't fixed the Warspite. *sigh* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
203 Prkl8r Beta Testers 741 posts 2,149 battles Report post #12 Posted August 31, 2017 Warspite is what we thought RN BBs would be. Instead we got oversized flamethrowers with no health or armor and anemic AP shells. I'm not saying the ships are bad, but the are only good because of gimmick HE, heal, and concealment. Take away any of those and it all falls apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #13 Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) has someone done the testing to see if QE retains the anemic AP shells from Hood, or does QE get the better AP shells from Warspite? Last I remember, Hood had shorter fuses on its AP shells, which caused it to have poor penetration against BB belts, but less overpen against cruisers, while Warspite had a longer fuse that allowed it to punch right through belts of any thickness. Edited August 31, 2017 by MrDeaf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,247 [SCCC] FayFay731 Members 1,137 posts 9,687 battles Report post #14 Posted August 31, 2017 Well premium ships will usually be flat out better than their tech tree counterparts. Sometimes marginally (Tirpitz and Bismarck, some people migh say vice versa but they're pratically the same) and sometimes substaintially (Murmansk and Omaha). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78 Raigir Beta Testers 389 posts 7,261 battles Report post #15 Posted August 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, MrDeaf said: has someone done the testing to see if QE retains the anemic AP shells from Hood, or does QE get the better AP shells from Warspite? Last I remember, Hood had shorter fuses on its AP shells, which caused it to have poor penetration against BB belts, but less overpen against cruisers, while Warspite had a longer fuse that allowed it to punch right through belts of any thickness. QE has main line fuzes which are the short fuzes that Hood also gets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,984 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 39,371 posts 31,553 battles Report post #16 Posted August 31, 2017 "Warspite for faster turret traverse." For veteran players, did you ever expect to see that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #17 Posted August 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, Raigir said: QE has main line fuzes which are the short fuzes that Hood also gets. ah, so it will be good against cruisers and not much more, gotcha. Fire HE all day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,054 DDJohnston Members 6,670 posts Report post #18 Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Warspite's a premium, and you can use it to help train captains in anything RN. That's the one thing QE can't do, unless you like retraining, I guess. I realize that some of you have zillions in elite captain xp sitting there, but, I'm not there yet, and I'm sure lots of other people aren't as well. Edited August 31, 2017 by mavfin87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 AquaSquirrel Members 1,228 posts 6,330 battles Report post #19 Posted August 31, 2017 54 minutes ago, _cthulhu_ said: The QE has her armour fixed... They still haven't fixed the Warspite. *sigh* What exactly is wrong with Warspites armor? I've played 286 battles in her so far and it seems workable to me. Great? Not by a long shot but perfectly workable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,559 [NYAAR] Lord_Slayer [NYAAR] Members 5,279 posts 21,726 battles Report post #20 Posted August 31, 2017 The Grand Old Lady is still has her uses, and likes to remind people not to screw around with her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
313 Psicopro Members 1,243 posts 5,495 battles Report post #21 Posted August 31, 2017 15 hours ago, RevolutionBlues said: Bet you never thought you'd recommend Warspite because she has faster turret traverse. The sun shines on a horse's a*s every once in a while =). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,544 [PSA] KaptainKaybe Members 5,118 posts 3,754 battles Report post #22 Posted August 31, 2017 Warspite has over QE: - Better secondary range - Better AP - Better turning circle - Better turret traverse - More accurate guns (2.0 sigma) - 60 second reload Damage Control Party Most people consider Warspite better than QE. QE's advantage is slightly better AA and better HE. Trust me when I say that Warspite is still very strong as a premium BB. Much more so, tier for tier, than Hood. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [SIMP] _cthulhu_ Members 1,518 posts 12,922 battles Report post #23 Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, HazeGrayUnderway said: "Warspite for faster turret traverse." For veteran players, did you ever expect to see that? Never lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [SIMP] _cthulhu_ Members 1,518 posts 12,922 battles Report post #24 Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, AquaSquirrel said: What exactly is wrong with Warspites armor? I've played 286 battles in her so far and it seems workable to me. Great? Not by a long shot but perfectly workable. The Warspite sits about a metre too high out of the water. Compare the 2 in game, then watch the Jingles review where it is easy to tell that it originally sat correctly, then they pulled a bait and nerf. Edited August 31, 2017 by _cthulhu_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123 [RS] Paulo2011 Members 378 posts 22,723 battles Report post #25 Posted August 31, 2017 with a low number of games for comparison I hesitate to post but will state the following, Having played them both I vote for the Warspite. It just seems to handle better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
