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HE Spam from BBs but not CL

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I really dont understand Wargaming at all. 

They wanted to curb the BB population by creating these HE spam battleships. But they thought British cruisers with HE was far too powerful. 

So they make a BB line that is meant to spam HE but limit a Light Cruiser line to only shoot AP. 

Reallyyyyyy makesss youuuu thinkkkkk 

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Granted, I'm only into the Iron Duke, but I think the British battleship AP is fantastic.  The increased fuse time makes these things absolute wrecking balls.  So many overpens are now full pens.  Yes, the HE is nice, but if you're shooting only HE, you're really missing out.  

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you want a HE spammer cruiser? wait till the USN cruiser line spilt

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I see no problem. It's part if their armament, so use it. 

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Just now, Doomlock said:

I see no problem. It's part if their armament, so use it. 

But you dont see the irony in the fact that they basically made British BBs HE spammers but the light cruisers are only allowed to shoot AP? 

Where is the logic in that? 

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I just need to convince WG to give my RN BB's smoke and then things will be right in the world.

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5 minutes ago, GregL385 said:

But you dont see the irony in the fact that they basically made British BBs HE spammers but the light cruisers are only allowed to shoot AP? 

Where is the logic in that? 

Please stop unironically defending national flavor.

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It is kind of amusing to consider. 

hmm

I wonder what's left for the RN DD's to get?? 

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Just now, Jnobsir said:

It is kind of amusing to consider. 

hmm

I wonder what's left for the RN DD's to get?? 

They get Single Fire Torpedos

Other nations still havent figured that out :^)

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5 minutes ago, Jnobsir said:

It is kind of amusing to consider. 

hmm

I wonder what's left for the RN DD's to get?? 

HE torps.. :Smile_amazed:

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I'm liking the Iron Duke.

 

I'm liking it a LOT.

 

Note that I didn't fire AP a single time in this battle.  XD

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Just now, MorbidGamer said:

Takes care of bow camping maybe people will finally see the value of HE. Instead of bouncing and shattering rounds on bows and turrets.

but only morons dont know better than to spam AP at a bow on BB. 

 

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Just now, GregL385 said:

but only ****** dont know better than to spam AP at a bow on BB. 

 

There are far to many... I want to rip my hair out watching people bounce AP rounds and then keep doing it for 5 mins.

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The only problem with Iron Duke is that currently 5-6/12 of your potential targets are other Iron Dukes, so every match devolves into this stupid, slow line of burning battleships firing HE at one another while divisions of Kamikaze's and the occasional Saipan run rampant.

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18 minutes ago, DerKrampus said:

I'm liking the Iron Duke.

 

I'm liking it a LOT.

 

Note that I didn't fire AP a single time in this battle.  XD

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I just don't see how that is a good thing at all.

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7 minutes ago, Jonesyrules15 said:

 

I just don't see how that is a good thing at all.

Oh, it's not.  I was struggling with the ship, looked at the fire chance, said [edited] it and loaded up demo expert and fire flags.  I was doing it for the lulz- to see what would happen.

 

What happened was a string of highly successful, high-damage games, with a great degree of consistency.  It won't chunk off big pieces of HP like AP citadels will, but every salvo does dependable, predictable damage.

Also, you can totally citadel cruisers with British HE.  

Also, you're already appropriately-loaded for any DDs that come near you.

Also, the lower per-penetration damage of the HE rounds seems to be more than offset by the fact that you're landing fires with nearly every salvo; with nearly every second salvo being one or more permanent fires.  

 

Is this good for the meta?  I don't think so.  Is it fun as hell, giggle-inducing and trollish?  Oh, you bet your bonnet it is.:Smile_teethhappy:

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13.5" gun at t5-7, you bet yer [edited] I am slinging HE and fire  :D      not as good as ishizuchi in ROF, but makes up with higher fire chance  :D

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So I am playing tier 4 tonight because screw sitting in queue on battleships.

 

Watched an Orion fire HE at me and nearly deleted my clemson in one shot.  Still got him but damn.  Ok, I'm a DD fine.  HE should hurt.

 

Next Orion at 4km fires he at a broadside cruiser, then at 9km fires a broadside at 9km at a wyoming.

 

I haven't seen a british BB fire AP all night I don't think.

 

A bunch of [edited] running around firing HE in a BB regardless of the situation is not good for the game.  Glad they reduced the accuracy on the 419's, but at least at the lower levels on night 1 there are way too many BB's firing HE.  Don't see the skill in playing this line.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, tcbaker777 said:

you want a HE spammer cruiser? wait till the USN cruiser line spilt

Obligatory St. Louis-class CLs that take the Cleveland's 'dakka' concept, and applies more dakka(via a 5th 6" gun turret). Even though the Cleveland's came after the St. Louis'. :Smile-_tongue:

25 minutes ago, Big_Spud said:

The only problem with Iron Duke is that currently 5-6/12 of your potential targets are other Iron Dukes, so every match devolves into this stupid, slow line of burning battleships firing HE at one another while divisions of Kamikaze's and the occasional Saipan run rampant.

Being the Kamikaze is a lot of fun. :Smile_teethhappy:

Though not so much when there's a Saipan, or Kaga, or any CV, running rampant... :Smile_sad:

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1 minute ago, Psicopro said:

So I am playing tier 4 tonight because screw sitting in queue on battleships.

 

Watched an Orion fire HE at me and nearly deleted my clemson in one shot.  Still got him but damn.  Ok, I'm a DD fine.  HE should hurt.

 

Next Orion at 4km fires he at a broadside cruiser, then at 9km fires a broadside at 9km at a wyoming.

 

I haven't seen a british BB fire AP all night I don't think.

 

A bunch of [edited] running around firing HE in a BB regardless of the situation is not good for the game.  Glad they reduced the accuracy on the 419's, but at least at the lower levels on night 1 there are way too many BB's firing HE.  Don't see the skill in playing this line.

 

 

They are British BBs. And their AP rounds can't be used for sniping due a a short fuse mechanic. What is the other kind of shell? HE. They are supposed to use AP in brawling but yolo.

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1 hour ago, GhostSwordsman said:

Obligatory St. Louis-class CLs that take the Cleveland's 'dakka' concept, and applies more dakka(via a 5th 6" gun turret). Even though the Cleveland's came after the St. Louis'. :Smile-_tongue:

 

Obligatory Worcester-class CLs that make Atlanta and Flint look like cheap knock offs. Seriously, those 6"/47s are mean.

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