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Average 40k dmg a game with 10 an up planes shot down (basically just using fighters as meat shields  

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Icon Name Tier Type Nation Battles WR ▼ Dmg XP K/D Sh☠ Pl☠ Srv MBH TH
           
  Graf Zeppelin 8 CV Germany 27 55.56% 55,020 1,480 2.1 0.9 18.8 59% 0% 0%
  Enterprise 8 CV  USA 32,834 55.11% 66,063 1,430 3.8 1.0 19.4 75% 0% 0%
  Shokaku 8 CV  Japan 432,688 53.71% 59,015 1,323 4.0 1.0 16.7 75% 0% 0%
  Lexington 8 CV  USA 733,217 47.26% 52,296 1,138 2.4 0.8 14.1 67% 0% 0%
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4 minutes ago, Skarp_AGW said:
Icon Name Tier Type Nation Battles WR ▼ Dmg XP K/D Sh☠ Pl☠ Srv MBH TH
           
  Graf Zeppelin 8 CV Germany 27 55.56% 55,020 1,480 2.1 0.9 18.8 59% 0% 0%
  Enterprise 8 CV  USA 32,834 55.11% 66,063 1,430 3.8 1.0 19.4 75% 0% 0%
  Shokaku 8 CV  Japan 432,688 53.71% 59,015 1,323 4.0 1.0 16.7 75% 0% 0%
  Lexington 8 CV  USA 733,217 47.26% 52,296 1,138 2.4 0.8 14.1 67% 0% 0%

 

...might want to wait until your sample size is bigger than 27 (And not even 10 of those are in the last 2 weeks, so those are probably GZ stats with 3x torpedo bombers)...

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Just now, Carrier_Ikoma said:

 

...might want to wait until your sample size is bigger than 27...

Just posting what is up so far. The OP seemed to be having issues.

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4 minutes ago, Carrier_Ikoma said:

I would suggest imgur over photobucket...

 

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Why can i see photo fine in OP then?

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Just now, Skarp_AGW said:

Just posting what is up so far. The OP seemed to be having issues.

 

No. Those battles are probably from when GZ had 3x torpedo bombers (they are not recent battles). Release version does not have TBs.

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2 minutes ago, Sn0vvman said:

Why can i see photo fine in OP then?

Because it's in your local browser cache?

Anyways, we can't see it. And if you're posting a picture on the forum, your intent very likely is for us to see it, so please use a image hosting provider that doesn't suck monkey balls.

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While I don't have a GZ I did get demolished by one in my Z-23 earlier when all 3 diver bombers came at me, and had another game where one made our Lexington hold its pocket for the entire game.  That circular drop seems rough on destroyers.

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3 minutes ago, Lert said:

Because it's in your local browser cache?

Anyways, we can't see it. And if you're posting a picture on the forum, your intent very likely is for us to see it, so please use a image hosting provider that doesn't suck monkey balls.

edited.....sorry cant keep up with the ever changing internet

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I wanted that ship so bad... :Smile_sad:

Ah well, I'll use that money for something else :Smile_sceptic:

WG, get crackin' on fixing it. :etc_red_button:

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The drop patterns of the DB seem easy enough to escape. I mentioned elsewhere - don't recall where - but what I do is get into a straight path towards them. You can tell when they've dropped because they jet away from you in very accelerated manner. When I see them do this I turn hard one direction or the other. The delay after their drop thereby gives you an opportunity to avoid most if not all the bombs. Try it see if it works for you. 

 

They do sink rater easily though. Contrast to others, I've seen oh, four to six total in matches played. Every time our carrier out played them (no matter the carrier). and in most cases the GZ didn't make it to the end of the match. fwiw

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OK guys, the GZ doesnt need improved airplanes, to improve her, they need to buff her speed and maneuverability. Then you take BFT and AFT to maximize that sweet sweet secondary she has. Totally balanced ship. dont know why people say she is bad. you just dont know how to build around her strength. 

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Hard to carry games with a CV when you are basically a weird crossbreed of strike lexington and shoukaku, but with bad fighters

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Given her irl proposed complement of 42, would've though Graf to be at most a tier 7. With those high-delay AP dive bombers, very lackluster fighters, and...well...lack of torp bombers, she's not fit to be a tier 8 that costs as much as a triple-A game title.

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4 hours ago, DedPan said:

While I don't have a GZ I did get demolished by one in my Z-23 earlier when all 3 diver bombers came at me, and had another game where one made our Lexington hold its pocket for the entire game.  That circular drop seems rough on destroyers.

 

The circular drop is honestly inferior when it comes to attacking ships with narrow profiles. The main advantage of it is that you can attack the target from any angle with the same degree of accuracy. Zeppelin's HE bombs is among the hardest hitting bombs (excluding the USN 1000lbs bombs for obvious reasons) of the tier, so they definitely hurt destroyers when they connect.

 

I bought the CV to see how bad it was for myself, considering that I consider myself fairly good with accounting for the RNG of DBs. A glaring issue that you can't really tell from reading numbers is how fragile the planes are. Since dive bombing requires you to enter all the AA bubbles, Zeppelin is getting wrecked at higher tiers where TBs can perform early drops to try to prevent too many losses against heavy AA platforms. This, combined with the fighters being awful in almost everything (low damage, bad strafe damage, but they do expend very little ammo to strafe), makes this CV really bad. The delay on bomb drop for AP bombs being so long makes it unplayable, plus the lack of visual effect of where the bombs actually did land. This is a T7 performing CV being forced to fight like a T8 CV. It's telling when you're comparing the efficiency of this CV to AS loadout Lexington with Lady Lex being arguably better.

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6 hours ago, Skarp_AGW said:
Icon Name Tier Type Nation Battles WR ▼ Dmg XP K/D Sh☠ Pl☠ Srv MBH TH
           
  Graf Zeppelin 8 CV Germany 27 55.56% 55,020 1,480 2.1 0.9 18.8 59% 0% 0%
  Enterprise 8 CV  USA 32,834 55.11% 66,063 1,430 3.8 1.0 19.4 75% 0% 0%
  Shokaku 8 CV  Japan 432,688 53.71% 59,015 1,323 4.0 1.0 16.7 75% 0% 0%
  Lexington 8 CV  USA 733,217 47.26% 52,296 1,138 2.4 0.8 14.1 67% 0% 0%

 

Enterprise8CV USA  33,465  55.11%  66,104  1,433  3.8  1.0  19.4  75%  0%  0%

Shokaku8CV Japan  433,601  53.71%  58,998  1,323  3.9  1.0  16.7  75%  0%  0%

Graf Zeppelin8CV  Germany  1,073  47.72%  41,436  1,280  1.9  0.6 14.9  69%  0%  0%

Lexington8CV USA  734,324  47.26%  52,282  1,138  2.4  0.8  14.1  67%  0%  0%

 

Some numbers from the GZ's first full day in play. Compare to the ones above from this morning when we were just seeing play test numbers

 

 

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