How did I earn 0 exp and credits?

[Junkieturtle]

In a round today in my Montana. Got detonated by a G.K in what was probably the first time I've been detonated in a high tier BB that wasn't the result of a torpedo hit. No complaints about the detonation, those don't bother me, but I'm curious why I received 0 exp. As my detail screen shows, I had 3 hits with main artillery, spotting damage, potential damage, and some plane kills.

Heck, even if I were to quit a match or disconnect at the start without even doing anything I'll get a minimum amount of exp and credits.

Not sure why 0 exp and credits happened here? Anybody know?

[IronWolfV]

my guess, no damage done.

[Simers72]

Pretty sure you need to do at least 1 dmg and/or gain cap/defense points to get xp.. no xp means no credits.  That would be my thought.

[awiggin]

1 minute ago, IronWolfV said:

my guess, no damage done.

 

Even if he bounced the 3 shells, he did shoot down 5 planes, seems odd that he zero'd out.

[IronWolfV]

2 minutes ago, awiggin said:

 

Even if he bounced the 3 shells, he did shoot down 5 planes, seems odd that he zero'd out.

Beats me Wiggins. I was just taking a W.A.G 

[skull_122_steel]

how long where you alive in the battle and how far did you sail because a few patches back the made some changes to the AFK punishment where if you didn't sail far enough or quite instantly you get no EXP or credits this may be the case even though you didnt go AFK

[Fishrokk]

Just now, skull_122_steel said:

how long where you alive in the battle and how far did you sail because a few patches back the made some changes to the AFK punishment where if you didn't sail far enough or quite instantly you get no EXP or credits this may be the case even though you didnt go AFK

Second screen shot: 4:20 spent in battle, 8.8km travelled.

[awiggin]

1 minute ago, IronWolfV said:

Beats me Wiggins. I was just taking a W.A.G 

 

Me either, I thought the only way you could zero out is to afk and not move, since he fired his guns, I'm assuming he moved or shooting itself would indicate he wasn't afk.

But it's not like WG clarifies these rules too well, and anything could have changed in the last few patches.

[skull_122_steel]

Just now, Fishrokk said:

Second screen shot: 4:20 spent in battle, 8.8km travelled.

ya just saw that and now i'm stumped because that is more then enough to not be considered AFK

[Stampz]

Probably anti-bot measures.  The end results were terrible enough that a bot would have done more for the team.  Granted, detonation kinda ended the OP's game early, it's still probably bad enough to trigger an anti-bot flag.

[AJTP89]

OK, looking at it from the system's perspective, you barely moved, and did nothing that required player intervention. Basically you could be a bot since you did no damage, your AA gunners shot down the planes, you barely moved, and did no damage. It doesn't look at the fact you got detonated, or the three shots that hit bounced/shattered. Thus no XP.

 

Congratulations, you were marked as a bot by WG.

[FayFay731]

You should have made some money, I moved around once in a CO OP game while doing no damage and I made 10k credits and 15exp. Not sure why you weren't rewarded.

[Junkieturtle]

Anti-bot measures do seem to be the most likely explanation to me. Good input.

Although in addition to what is shown on my details screen, I also manually targeted the enemy torpedo plane squadron for my AA. I pretty much did everything I would normally do in a round as far as movement and shooting/targeting, just didn't manage to get any damage before get detonated.

I've had terrible rounds where I did 0 damage before and never ended up with 0 exp and credits. Don't particular care about that, my Montana captain is maxed and I have 39m creds, just struck as rather odd.

[Fishrokk]

6 minutes ago, AJTP89 said:

OK, looking at it from the system's perspective, you barely moved, and did nothing that required player intervention. Basically you could be a bot since you did no damage, your AA gunners shot down the planes, you barely moved, and did no damage. It doesn't look at the fact you got detonated, or the three shots that hit bounced/shattered. Thus no XP.

 

Congratulations, you were marked as a bot by WG.

Kicking up the throttle and firing shots don't require player intervention?

[Mizzerys_Fate]

You need to do damage. I was capping in by tashkent and got spotted. Before I could do any damage I was Insta deleted by 6 ships. Same result as yours.

[AJTP89]

Just now, Fishrokk said:

Kicking up the throttle and firing shots don't require player intervention?

Don't know from experience, but I'd assume that any bot program can move the ship and shoot, not necessarily at anything. This isn't AFK penalty, i think he tripped the bot system.

[TacoSallust]

This happened to me yesterday too. Sailed into C, laid down smoke, at a torpedo before firing a shot (my fault I admit). 0 XP, credits, everything. Lots of wasted flags, camo, and silver. 

[HazeGrayUnderway]

hehe those aren't screenshots I'be be showing to people, OP 

[Junkieturtle]

Actually, I spent 4:20 in battle.

Maybe that's related....

Thinking maybe I got...burned.

[Fishrokk]

11 minutes ago, AJTP89 said:

Don't know from experience, but I'd assume that any bot program can move the ship and shoot, not necessarily at anything. This isn't AFK penalty, i think he tripped the bot system.

Yeah, but then any bot program can be set up to mimic any player interaction.  I'm thinking this is too loose of a litmus test for WG to actually use. 

I'm betting it's solely damage based, especially considering TacoSallust's post above.

At least you don't have to hear that crap line about not proving yourself in battle afterwards anymore.  That was like, "Gee, thanks!  Kick me when I'm down, why dontcha?"

[AVR_Project]

And then there's THIS - where I spent the whole battle defeating a fort - then burned down .. because..  RNG sez so...

By the way, they got rid of the Bastion Mode.

Edit -- I never looked at this closely and realized the Missouri actually has 78K HP...   Wonder where the rest went to?

[AspiringCodger]

21 minutes ago, Fishrokk said:

Yeah, but then any bot program can be set up to mimic any player interaction.  I'm thinking this is too loose of a litmus test for WG to actually use. 

I'm betting it's solely damage based, especially considering TacoSallust's post above.

At least you don't have to hear that crap line about not proving yourself in battle afterwards anymore.  That was like, "Gee, thanks!  Kick me when I'm down, why dontcha?"

It's definitely not just damage based.  There was a post by WG staff yesterday showing a game with nothing but capping that received good XP and silver.

[awiggin]

1 hour ago, AJTP89 said:

OK, looking at it from the system's perspective, you barely moved, and did nothing that required player intervention. Basically you could be a bot since you did no damage, your AA gunners shot down the planes, you barely moved, and did no damage. It doesn't look at the fact you got detonated, or the three shots that hit bounced/shattered. Thus no XP.

 

Congratulations, you were marked as a bot by WG.

 

Any proof of this statement...other than your opinion?

And there are lots of bots in this game that make xp, so it seems unlikely they would have "flagged" him for this...He has no control over a Det.

[Siegewolf]

I had something similar happened in a Ibuki.  Game started so I was moving up to one of the islands.  We only had one DD who was involved at another cap.  I mention this because I spot the enemy DD and start to maneuver, expecting his torp drop.  Next thing I know I am deleted in one salvo by a unseen GK.  This was early in the game.  I too got "0".  At the time I assumed maybe someone else spotted the DD before me.  There weren't any planes up, that I remember, and I was the farthest forward near that area.  But its possible the team mate behind me did something.  Don't remember what they were driving.

I really hated the Ibuki, probably just me, but it seemed like a detonation magnet.  That game basically had me free exp up to Zao I was so frustrated.

[Fishrokk]

37 minutes ago, AspiringCodger said:

It's definitely not just damage based.  There was a post by WG staff yesterday showing a game with nothing but capping that received good XP and silver.

Right, but capping (like doing damage) is an XP generating event.  I don't think AVR made it to a cap point in that battle...  Still, point taken - if capturing affects this, you are 100% correct, it is not just damage based.