British BBs bad for the game.

[CrapDuster]

In their current state, I don't think British BBs are good for the game. Was just in a battle where a Lion was he spamming from 20+ km the whole game. If they want to encourage more aggressive play, this wasn't the way to do it. I understand the mentality of "low concealment means people will push", but it's not going to work. The low concealment and excellent range only means that people will spam he from 20+ km, then drop off detection and do it again when no one is watching them. It's bad for the meta in my opinion. Those are just my thoughts.

[SuperNikoPower]

Remember, ALL ships that aren't released are subject to changes. What you feel today may not be reality tomorrow. 

 

 

[aethervox]

What?!  The RN BBs are/will be bad for the game?

"My Lords, what say you to this mutinous dog?"

"Hang him." "Throw him overboard." "Keel haul the blighter."

Seriously, you saw a Lion, OP, a higher tier Bri BB. Not all of them will be long distance spammers (as if other lines are incapable of this).

I'd also like to think WoWS is smart enough (?) to discourage a passive play style (or are they?).

[Nimitz_1701]

9 minutes ago, CrapDuster said:

In their current state, I don't think British BBs are good for the game. Was just in a battle where a Lion was he spamming from 20+ km the whole game. If they want to encourage more aggressive play, this wasn't the way to do it. I understand the mentality of "low concealment means people will push", but it's not going to work. The low concealment and excellent range only means that people will spam he from 20+ km, then drop off detection and do it again when no one is watching them. It's bad for the meta in my opinion. Those are just my thoughts.

You will find this in any BB line. Also keep in mine they are still in supertest and Wargaming needs to know how they perform at all ranges, so don't judge them so quickly.

[Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi]

[SyndicatedINC]

Supertesters and CC are playing the ships testing various things.  You will see some straight up craziness as they do this.  It doesn't mean the ship is intended to do or create a meta of what they are doing, heck often that is the reason they are testing said meta.

[awiggin]

Far too late to worry about that. WG put in the IJN line early, and they are all designed to snipe.

WG never learned to identify unintended consequences, unlikely they will start now. 

[Q___________Q]

People see the range and they wanna play from max range, pretty much nothing will convince the potatoes to move closer except taking away their range. I do like the idea of decent he though, because I like to watch the world enemy BBs burn

[CrapDuster]

6 minutes ago, aethervox said:

What?!  The RN BBs are/will be bad for the game?

"My Lords, what say you to this mutinous dog?"

"Hang him." "Throw him overboard." "Keel haul the blighter."

Seriously, you saw a Lion, OP, a higher tier Bri BB. Not all of them will be long distance spammers (as if other lines are incapable of this).

I'd also like to think WoWS is smart enough (?) to discourage a passive play style (or are they?).

From the description wargaming gave if the British Bb line, it seems to me like all the mid to high tier will be sniping. I prefer a game when the BBs are within 15km or so. Frankly, I don't think anyone likes a game where people are camping. I'm not saying that everyone will play them this way, it's just that if people play the other t10 bbs like this, more people will play the British Bb line like this since they seem to be built for sniping all the time, except for the low citadels.

 

6 minutes ago, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said:

I've seen this too many times. I'm not even ranting about it, I gave my opinion

[anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT]

 

19 minutes ago, NikoPower said:

Remember, ALL ships that aren't released are subject to changes. What you feel today may not be reality tomorrow. 

 

 

I am looking forward to BBs with a British CL playstyle, spamming from cover and concealment. Anyone who dares nerf them will be walking the gangplank or keel hauled. I must say how dismayed I am that British BBs have neither smoke consumable nor catapult launched torpedo bomber, so underpowered it is quite unfair. I have been longing to see the Stringbag in game, causing panic and mayhem.

[EmGee42]

30 minutes ago, CrapDuster said:

In their current state, I don't think British BBs are good for the game. Was just in a battle where a Lion was he spamming from 20+ km the whole game. If they want to encourage more aggressive play, this wasn't the way to do it. I understand the mentality of "low concealment means people will push", but it's not going to work. The low concealment and excellent range only means that people will spam he from 20+ km, then drop off detection and do it again when no one is watching them. It's bad for the meta in my opinion. Those are just my thoughts.

Stupidest thing l have read today.  Way to reach out there and form an opinion with such a limited sample. 

[BladedPheonix]

13 minutes ago, EmGee42 said:

Stupidest thing l have read today.  Way to reach out there and form an opinion with such a limited sample. 

actually I-chase even said that some of the UK BBs are Broken OP, as did Noster and a  few other EU testers.

[BladedPheonix]

17 minutes ago, nuttybiscuit said:

 

I am looking forward to BBs with a British CL playstyle, spamming from cover and concealment. Anyone who dares nerf them will be walking the gangplank or keel hauled. I must say how dismayed I am that British BBs have neither smoke consumable nor catapult launched torpedo bomber, so underpowered it is quite unfair. I have been longing to see the Stringbag in game, causing panic and mayhem.

prepare to be disappointed then.....

 

 

Also the UK navy is way overrated..... their BB's got their butts handed to them in both world wars. kinda pathetic given they created the BB in the first place.....(OH wait they didn't!, look up Setsama class BB! Japan created a "deradnaught" before the British did by 3 months!!!)

[anonym_Hf93Jbjm9WjT]

Just now, BladedPheonix said:

prepare to be disappointed then.....

 

 

Also the UK navy is way overrated..... their BB's got their butts handed to them in both world wars. kinda pathetic given they created the BB in the first place.....(OH wait they didn't!, look up Setsama class BB! Japan created a "deradnaught" before the British did by 3 months!!!)

Heretic! 

[WanderingGhost]

Reason there still in testing. I've encountered a few like Nelson, some played aggressive, some kept range, others were more the hit and run they talked about in the video. Hell, I saw the Nelson, in a tier 9 game 8-9 game (9's were a couple cruisers) come in closer to fire than a pair of Tirpitz and Bismarck, ships built for brawling. Problem on range isn't ships, it's how people choose to use them. It's why I'm considering dropping back to mid tiers when I'm done Yamamoto stuff because I get fed up in a hurry of every high tier game, especially when I'm the 8 in the 10, being the only one who wants to push forward and at the hint of being spotted the rest scatter like roaches in the light and get left to be focused down by the enemy.

[BladedPheonix]

45 minutes ago, NikoPower said:

Remember, ALL ships that aren't released are subject to changes. What you feel today may not be reality tomorrow. 

 

 

sure hope so. that tier 10 is rediculous! its like a Zombie! no how much you throw at it, it keeps coming back from the dead!

 

tiers 3-6 seem fine though!

[Estimated_Prophet]

50 minutes ago, NikoPower said:

Remember, ALL ships that aren't released are subject to changes. What you feel today may not be reality tomorrow. 

 

Like Niko said...

 

[CrapDuster]

31 minutes ago, EmGee42 said:

Stupidest thing l have read today.  Way to reach out there and form an opinion with such a limited sample. 

I never said it was the only time I encountered it, I simply used that as an example. 

[BladedPheonix]

13 minutes ago, CrapDuster said:

I never said it was the only time I encountered it, I simply used that as an example. 

ignore him, its a ukaboo fanboy. they always get salty when someone critics "the great and almighty royal navy" you did nothing wrong!

[Umikami]

1 hour ago, NikoPower said:

Glad it's out there; it's getting hard to find in here!

[Lonewolfpj]

All ships I do not play are overpowered please nerf any ship I am not in.

[CrapDuster]

4 minutes ago, Lonewolfpj said:

All ships I do not play are overpowered please nerf any ship I am not in.

I never called for a nerf. Besides, I play Yamato, but you don't see me saying GK and Montana are op do you?

[EmGee42]

36 minutes ago, CrapDuster said:

I never said it was the only time I encountered it, I simply used that as an example. 

 

23 minutes ago, BladedPheonix said:

ignore him, its a ukaboo fanboy. they always get salty when someone critics "the great and almighty royal navy" you did nothing wrong!

You guys are right, the sky is falling and we should all just quit playing now. The RN ships will be the straw that broke the camel's back, just like radar, radio detection, OWSF Nerf, AFT  nerf, etc etc.

[HazeGrayUnderway]

1 hour ago, CrapDuster said:

In their current state, I don't think British BBs are good for the game. Was just in a battle where a Lion was he spamming from 20+ km the whole game. If they want to encourage more aggressive play, this wasn't the way to do it. I understand the mentality of "low concealment means people will push", but it's not going to work. The low concealment and excellent range only means that people will spam he from 20+ km, then drop off detection and do it again when no one is watching them. It's bad for the meta in my opinion. Those are just my thoughts.

 

You have no idea how BBs work if you think that's going to be the norm.  FYI, right now you can find some Potato BB players already doing that with various BBs.

[Kunra_1]

1 hour ago, BladedPheonix said:

prepare to be disappointed then.....

 

 

Also the UK navy is way overrated..... their BB's got their butts handed to them in both world wars. kinda pathetic given they created the BB in the first place.....(OH wait they didn't!, look up Setsama class BB! Japan created a "deradnaught" before the British did by 3 months!!!)

 

Arguably the Chinese/Korea started armored ships with the turtle ships.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironclad_warship

 

This was probably my favorite part when it came to civil war history. Mainly because I'm from the area originally. Nothing cooler then learning about this stuff when I was in school then being able to actually go to where it all took place and walk down the same roads they did.