5,106 [ERN] MajorRenegade Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 10,906 posts 4,896 battles Report post #1 Posted August 15, 2017 as posted on Wows facebook page. I'm just surprised no one posted this yet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
825 [ARMDA] Unabletony Members 9,004 posts 6,614 battles Report post #2 Posted August 15, 2017 Somone did.. like last week.. hmmm 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #3 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) It was posted about and discussed here last week. WoWs Asia's FB posted it last week. NA FB is just late to the party. Edited August 15, 2017 by renegadestatuz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #4 Posted August 15, 2017 Half a dozen people did like a week ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,299 [VCRUZ] Xlap Members 4,049 posts 9,180 battles Report post #5 Posted August 15, 2017 There are lots of posts in the forum. And some videos about Kii on YouTube. And to be honest im not impressed with what i saw so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,662 [CALM] YamatoA150 Beta Testers 6,838 posts 6,088 battles Report post #6 Posted August 15, 2017 Old news; but just to recap: A clearly nerfed version of a T9 level ship, as far as current stats go. - 1.7 sigma - 35s reload - 25% TDS - Selectively nerfed sections of armor - Worse secondary performance (10cm DP mounts) All for 2 torpedo launchers and slightly-better AA (from the DP mounts). I'm hoping they at least unnerf the sigma and standardize the reload to 30s. The slightly degraded secondary performance and the weak TDS can be left as counterbalance, and restored on a proper T9 sister ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,809 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 9,916 posts 18,378 battles Report post #7 Posted August 15, 2017 53 minutes ago, MajorRenegade said: as posted on Wows facebook page. I'm just surprised no one posted this yet it looks good, its basically a Amagi with torps and better AA i guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [WOLFD] Carl [WOLFD] Beta Testers 5,072 posts 1,514 battles Report post #8 Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, YamatoA150 said: Old news; but just to recap: A clearly nerfed version of a T9 level ship, as far as current stats go. - 1.7 sigma - 35s reload - 25% TDS - Selectively nerfed sections of armor - Worse secondary performance (10cm DP mounts) All for 2 torpedo launchers and slightly-better AA (from the DP mounts). I'm hoping they at least unnerf the sigma and standardize the reload to 30s. The slightly degraded secondary performance and the weak TDS can be left as counterbalance, and restored on a proper T9 sister ship. If you call Iowa levels of AAA slightly better that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,887 [NSF] Big_Spud Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 5,304 posts 9,284 battles Report post #9 Posted August 15, 2017 It's not even a Japanese ship in its current state. How am I supposed to actually train captains with this when it basically requires a specialized one to even get moderate performance out of its stupid gimmicks. At least with Mutsu I can just slot my Nagato/Fuso/Kongo/Amagi captain in without really sacrificing anything or needing to re-spec them for maximum efficiency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,776 [SIM] SkaerKrow Members 6,307 posts 10,286 battles Report post #10 Posted August 15, 2017 So it's Super Mutsu? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #11 Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, YamatoA150 said: Old news; but just to recap: A clearly nerfed version of a T9 level ship, as far as current stats go. - 1.7 sigma - 35s reload - 25% TDS - Selectively nerfed sections of armor - Worse secondary performance (10cm DP mounts) All for 2 torpedo launchers and slightly-better AA (from the DP mounts). I'm hoping they at least unnerf the sigma and standardize the reload to 30s. The slightly degraded secondary performance and the weak TDS can be left as counterbalance, and restored on a proper T9 sister ship. 35s reload and 1.7 sigma. No way I am buying this -- every 35s I might land 3 hits, whoo-hoo! That sigma has to change. Why dont they restore the 30s reload, give it a 1.9 sigma, and offer it as T9 premium? They already lost their virginity on high tier premiums with Missouri and Black. One more won't matter, and a fast IJN BB at T9 would be a lot of fun to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
719 [UFFA] SinqueScheiDeMona Beta Testers 3,784 posts 5,102 battles Report post #12 Posted August 15, 2017 1945 above the water line, 1926 below the water line was the tl;dr version. iirc. Well I guess the FCS is 1926 as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
627 [MAHAN] AdmiralPiett Beta Testers 1,605 posts 7,195 battles Report post #13 Posted August 15, 2017 I'm iffy with the current stats, but I might get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [WOLFD] Carl [WOLFD] Beta Testers 5,072 posts 1,514 battles Report post #14 Posted August 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, Taichunger said: 35s reload and 1.7 sigma. No way I am buying this -- every 35s I might land 3 hits, whoo-hoo! That sigma has to change. Why dont they restore the 30s reload, give it a 1.9 sigma, and offer it as T9 premium? They already lost their virginity on high tier premiums with Missouri and Black. One more won't matter, and a fast IJN BB at T9 would be a lot of fun to play. Bear in mind it's only putting out 1rpm less than North Carolina with only 0.1 worse sigma and slightly better horizontal dispersion. You've got a bit less pen, (about 15mm less at 15km), but overall your not talking poor main battery performance by T8 standards, it's just not Amagi good, but you do get a better belt at the cost of a worse turtleback, (so fewer normal pens but cits are a bit easier for cruiser calibre and RNBB/scharhorst guns). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
315 [BONKZ] YukikazeFortunateBeaver Members 3,880 posts 16,745 battles Report post #15 Posted August 15, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kii-class_battleship for everyone who doesnt know what the kii is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,887 [NSF] Big_Spud Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 5,304 posts 9,284 battles Report post #16 Posted August 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, Carl said: Bear in mind it's only putting out 1rpm less than North Carolina with only 0.1 worse sigma and slightly better horizontal dispersion. You've got a bit less pen, (about 15mm less at 15km), but overall your not talking poor main battery performance by T8 standards, it's just not Amagi good, but you do get a better belt at the cost of a worse turtleback, (so fewer normal pens but cits are a bit easier for cruiser calibre and RNBB/scharhorst guns). North Carolina has 2.0 sigma, and 1.8 sigma is considered pretty bad by tier 8, let alone 1.7. I quit playing Amagi because it missed so many shots despite the small listed horizontal dispersion, and that was with 1.8 sigma. I'm not paying money for one that's worse in every measurable metric but AA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [WOLFD] Carl [WOLFD] Beta Testers 5,072 posts 1,514 battles Report post #17 Posted August 15, 2017 Huh someone was saying in the last thread 1.8, i didn't stop to check it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
403 ksix Members 926 posts 5,744 battles Report post #18 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, YamatoA150 said: All for 2 torpedo launchers and slightly-better AA (from the DP mounts). Slightly better AA? For a Japanese ship its monstrous AA. 100DPM @ 5km 176DPM @ 3.5km 104DPM @ 3.1km Only the tier 9/10 IJN CVs rival it in base number (and Yamato but 75% of it is 25mm). Not worth trading much away for though on that I agree since CV encounters are maybe 10-15% of the time. Edited August 15, 2017 by ksix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [WOLFD] Carl [WOLFD] Beta Testers 5,072 posts 1,514 battles Report post #19 Posted August 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, ksix said: Slightly better AA? For a Japanese ship its monstrous AA. 100DPM @ 5km 176DPM @ 3.5km 104DPM @ 3.1km Only the tier 9/10 IJN CVs rival it in base number (and Yamato but 75% of it is 25mm). 4th best BB AAA in game 9th best AAA overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,693 [FOXEH] BladedPheonix Alpha Tester 6,885 posts 22,176 battles Report post #20 Posted August 15, 2017 Still holding onto my money and waiting for Roma. So help me God if I have to wait til X-mas i'll keep holding onto my money! (unless of course its a USN BB, then I'll Cave!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
580 [PLPTV] Ulthwey Members 1,457 posts 9,077 battles Report post #21 Posted August 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Big_Spud said: It's not even a Japanese ship in its current state. How am I supposed to actually train captains with this when it basically requires a specialized one to even get moderate performance out of its stupid gimmicks. At least with Mutsu I can just slot my Nagato/Fuso/Kongo/Amagi captain in without really sacrificing anything or needing to re-spec them for maximum efficiency. Thats one of the ways WG gets you to play this game more. By giving you an unusual ship, they cash in on people's obsessive compulsive traits by making these people play the game more just for the sake of training a specialized captain. Remember Belfast with its IFHE, people made a captain just for the Belfast so it xan have IFHE which is 100% useless on all other british ships. This is precisely the reason why ships like Blysk and Perth will always remain seperate entities, in order to force you to play them from the start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
