943 [NUWES] Tzarevitch Members 3,849 posts 16,008 battles Report post #1 Posted August 14, 2017 Anyone know if they have ever mentioned West Virginia as a premium? It would be nice to finally get it as a fully upgraded Colorado rather than the least upgraded Colorado. Plus it has a history. Spoiler 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
242 Middcore Members 650 posts 1,842 battles Report post #2 Posted August 14, 2017 The problem is it would have to have really terrible "soft" stats not to just be a better version of the tech tree Colorado. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #3 Posted August 14, 2017 I wouldn't hold your breath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,448 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,823 posts 26,907 battles Report post #4 Posted August 14, 2017 It's markedly superior to the tech tree colorado, at least in secondary armament and AA. If it makes it into the game it would either have to be as tier 8, or obsolete the tech tree Colorado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #5 Posted August 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, Lert said: It's markedly superior to the tech tree colorado, at least in secondary armament and AA. If it makes it into the game it would either have to be as tier 8, or obsolete the tech tree Colorado. Still wish we could have Maryland as the final upgrade. And the too powerful claim, I point to Gniesenau and Scharnhorst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,085 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 4,720 posts Report post #6 Posted August 14, 2017 I'd be all over a Tier 7 West Virginia! Take my money! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
389 [WAP] TheCompGuy25 Members 722 posts 19,699 battles Report post #7 Posted August 14, 2017 +1 signed. This would be one I purchase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
523 [SYN] Spooooooooooooooooooooon Beta Testers 1,280 posts 17,077 battles Report post #8 Posted August 14, 2017 I'd jump on the bandwagon but hell, as a history buff, I buy them all anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,887 [NSF] Big_Spud Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 5,304 posts 9,284 battles Report post #9 Posted August 14, 2017 34 minutes ago, Lert said: It's markedly superior to the tech tree colorado, at least in secondary armament and AA. If it makes it into the game it would either have to be as tier 8, or obsolete the tech tree Colorado. Or they can make it the final hull, and finally give Colorado a snowballs chance in hell of being properly balanced versus the other tier 7's. And then you sell Maryland as a worse version with different soft stats. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,448 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,823 posts 26,907 battles Report post #10 Posted August 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Big_Spud said: Or they can make it the final hull, and finally give Colorado a snowballs chance in hell of being properly balanced versus the other tier 7's. And then you sell Maryland as a worse version with different soft stats. I'd go for that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
282 Mavairo Beta Testers 1,465 posts 4,344 battles Report post #11 Posted August 14, 2017 There is no reason she shouldn't be the final hull of the Colorado, given the Colorado on each server is still last place at T7, and the simple fact that frankly we have the hilariously OP Sharnhorst, and Genny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
102 [TF-64] Slightlyaskewed Members 594 posts 24,430 battles Report post #12 Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) The Maryland should be the CO final hull. The WV was rebuilt to such a degree that she really isn't a CO anymore. She was widened about 20' ( this is memory so I could be off a few feet either direction) and could no longer fit through the Panama canal. She also received a powerplant upgrade since they were able to get so far into her insides. Granted thanks to being wider and heavier this only gave somewhere between 1/2 and 1 knts to top speed. The wider body is why her secondaries and AA suite rivals the NC. A lot more deck space to crowd guns all over. Along with a fire control upgrade and various other upgrades she kinda just became her own class. Same as how the TN and the CA became very different ships for the same reason. The Maryland on the other hand was what the CO's were supposed to become but only she got the refit. Edited August 14, 2017 by Slightlyaskewed Edited the TN. Autocorrect made that tan for some dumb reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [WOLFD] Carl [WOLFD] Beta Testers 5,072 posts 1,514 battles Report post #13 Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Lert said: I'd go for that. So would i, grinding the colorado now and god is she awful. Don't get me wrong when teams and MM and spawn locations corporate she's awesome, when the enemy team lemming train your way and your teammates run at the first sign of trouble, (or your just heavily uptiered), you don't have a prayer of doing much of anything in her, you too slow to turn and run, too low health and fragile to tank and the firepower whilst very good isn't remotely good enough to shoot your way out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
102 [TF-64] Slightlyaskewed Members 594 posts 24,430 battles Report post #14 Posted August 15, 2017 Also after realizing I sidetracked myself, the WV still isn't a tier 8. She still has the original rifles. Between that and the fact she was still awful slow, she would be severely hampered playing as an 8. But making her a 7 looks like a ptw scenario. But I still think she fits better at 7 than 8 even with all the upgrades. So I worry that she may never appear in game due to her unique situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,387 [LEGIO] Lampshade_M1A2 Members 3,753 posts 11,166 battles Report post #15 Posted August 15, 2017 Considering the absurdly good secondary/AAA guns on upgraded Gnessy I don't think having 5"/38s (even if they were un-nerfed) on West Virginia, Maryland, or tech-tree Colorado would be game-breaking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #16 Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Lampshade_M1A2 said: Considering the absurdly good secondary/AAA guns on upgraded Gnessy I don't think having 5"/38s (even if they were un-nerfed) on West Virginia, Maryland, or tech-tree Colorado would be game-breaking. WG: Have a Gremy, Okhotnik, Nikolai I, Scharn, Kutu, and Khab. PLAYERBASE: How about a T7 Premium Wee Vee? WG: That would be overpowered. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
943 [NUWES] Tzarevitch Members 3,849 posts 16,008 battles Report post #17 Posted August 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Lert said: I'd go for that. Me too. I really think Colorado as she is, is a holdover from Alpha/Beta. It's a serviceable ship but it's been badly power crept at this point. Ditch her unique heal, give her the Maryland hull at least, give her reasonable hp, and give West Virginia as a premium. Or just use West Virginia as the final tech tree hull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
943 [NUWES] Tzarevitch Members 3,849 posts 16,008 battles Report post #18 Posted August 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Lert said: It's markedly superior to the tech tree colorado, at least in secondary armament and AA. If it makes it into the game it would either have to be as tier 8, or obsolete the tech tree Colorado. It probably would be in HP too. As I recall Weevie got quite a bit beamier after her refit. She couldn't pass through the Panama Canal anymore. Honestly, part of the reason I would like them to implement WV as a premium is that would force them to take a good hard look at Colorado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
534 [WOLFD] Carl [WOLFD] Beta Testers 5,072 posts 1,514 battles Report post #19 Posted August 15, 2017 21 hours ago, Lampshade_M1A2 said: Considering the absurdly good secondary/AAA guns on upgraded Gnessy I don't think having 5"/38s (even if they were un-nerfed) on West Virginia, Maryland, or tech-tree Colorado would be game-breaking. Never use gnies AAA to justify anything at T7. NEVER. She's got better AAA than most T8 BB's, hell it would be passable if on the lowest end at T9. Having now run the math, yeah the WV/Maryland are off the table at T7, their AAA is far, far, far, too good. Still i wouldn't say no to a long hard look at Colorado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,678 Cruxdei Beta Testers 4,735 posts 7,019 battles Report post #20 Posted August 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Tzarevitch said: Anyone know if they have ever mentioned West Virginia as a premium? It would be nice to finally get it as a fully upgraded Colorado rather than the least upgraded Colorado. Plus it has a history. Reveal hidden contents this looks like the tightest battleship AA placement i have ever seen,she looks fatter now. US navy adopted USSR army doctrine " numbers win wars". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,343 [NYAAR] Lord_Slayer [NYAAR] Members 4,980 posts 21,221 battles Report post #21 Posted August 15, 2017 West Virginia was probably the most severely damaged BB at Pearl Harbor, after Arizona and Oklahoma. She even had her rudder blown off. Once refloated, it took a year of work at Pearl before she was able to make her way to the West Coast for repair and upgrades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
313 Psicopro Members 1,243 posts 5,495 battles Report post #22 Posted August 15, 2017 18 hours ago, Lert said: It's markedly superior to the tech tree colorado, at least in secondary armament and AA. If it makes it into the game it would either have to be as tier 8, or obsolete the tech tree Colorado. There is already a history of this so I wouldn't say that alone would preclude it. Texas vs New York for example. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35 BB45USSColorado Members 195 posts 6,243 battles Report post #23 Posted August 15, 2017 I would support the WeeVee at tier 7. The introduction of the Simon and Gluck at tier 7 this would be appropriate. On a side note the Colorado as modeled in game is incorrect. The single 5"/38's do not have their gun shield as present on the final refit of the Colorado. Please look at the below picture (of a model that was in my grandfathers house for many many years. I remember is quite fondly as I'd study it intensely.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
943 [NUWES] Tzarevitch Members 3,849 posts 16,008 battles Report post #24 Posted August 15, 2017 18 hours ago, Cruxdei said: this looks like the tightest battleship AA placement i have ever seen,she looks fatter now. US navy adopted USSR army doctrine " numbers win wars". She was definitely fatter. They widened her beam like 6 feet or so. She was wide enough she could no longer traverse the Panama Canal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
26 [CDMX] FlakDiver Members 113 posts 10,268 battles Report post #25 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) I second that proposal. Edited August 15, 2017 by Rodrigo_Godoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
