So Graf Zeppelin's Aircraft are T7?

[StoptheViolins]

Not sure why WG insists on making premium planes a tier down from the ship lately.  Doing so pretty much dictates any commander for the ship is a Dogfighter Expert just not to get blown out of the air.  Why not just go T8 to get a balanced aircraft package? Doing so would also allow a more historical plane count.  On the plus side at least the fighters are a few shades below a T8 damage-wise but 2/3 the T8 ammo load.  IDK, perhaps it is to make up for a non-gimmicky torpedo load out?

[skull_122_steel]

the GZ's aircraft are tier eight the problem with them is the fighters have lackluster DPS which stems from them being BF-109 Ts which have one 20mm in the nose along with two 7.92 mm MGs not the best arment when facing planes with six .50 cals or two 20mm and two 12.7mm 

[StoptheViolins]

3 minutes ago, skull_122_steel said:

the GZ's aircraft are tier eight the problem with them is the fighters have lack luster DPS witch stems from them being BF-109 Ts witch have one 20mm in the nose along with two 7.92 mm MGs not the best arment when facing planes with six .50 cals or two 20mm and two 12.7mm 

 

Current HP have them at 1560 vs US 1,700 vs IJN 1,660, why I have them at tier 7.

[skull_122_steel]

Just now, StoptheViolins said:

 

Current HP have them at 1560 vs US 1,700 vs IJN 1,660, why I have them at tier 7.

but they are still tier eight planes despite the low HP

[Cruxdei]

2 minutes ago, skull_122_steel said:

but they are still tier eight planes despite the low HP

eeh by looking at it they are only tier8 as a figure head position,the performance screams tier7.

[Sovereigndawg]

15 minutes ago, skull_122_steel said:

the GZ's aircraft are tier eight the problem with them is the fighters have lack luster DPS witch stems from them being BF-109 Ts witch have one 20mm in the nose along with two 7.92 mm MGs not the best arment when facing planes with six .50 cals or two 20mm and two 12.7mm 

You might not care but you have the wrong witch, which might not matter to you.

[AVR_Project]

So you automatically select Dogfighting as your captain skill -- problem solved.

As opposed to the Saipan, the Enterprise and Kaga also have low tier planes, but they have so many that a noob operator will never run out.

And I've brawled an Iowa with a Kaga, and my Kaga did more secondary damage....  and that's without any skills or flags.

[skull_122_steel]

2 minutes ago, Sovereigndawg said:

You might not care but you have the wrong witch, which might not matter to you.

my bad let me fix that

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Those planes are garbage early war developments.  They honestly should be Tier V or VI planes.  The 109T was obsolete when the war began, it sure is interesting seeing it sharing the skies with Hellcats.

[InspGadgt]

5 hours ago, AVR_Project said:

So you automatically select Dogfighting as your captain skill -- problem solved.

As opposed to the Saipan, the Enterprise and Kaga also have low tier planes, but they have so many that a noob operator will never run out.

And I've brawled an Iowa with a Kaga, and my Kaga did more secondary damage....  and that's without any skills or flags.

Dogfighting is going to do you no good as they are a tier 8 plane even if their stats are that of a tier 7.

[StoptheViolins]

51 minutes ago, InspGadgt said:

Dogfighting is going to do you no good as they are a tier 8 plane even if their stats are that of a tier 7.

This.  It would be better if WG went out on a limb and upped the planes to something more competitive... Dive bombers only tend to make the ship challenging to play so why handicap it further with T7 planes in T8 marking?

[AVR_Project]

9 hours ago, StoptheViolins said:

This.  It would be better if WG went out on a limb and upped the planes to something more competitive... Dive bombers only tend to make the ship challenging to play so why handicap it further with T7 planes in T8 marking?

Still in development.  Balance is not done yet.

It's going to have a niche and a special weird skill set.  Like the Enterprise's ability to nuke German battleships.

[renegadestatuz]

They're also the fastest planes at tier. Which means there isn't another fighter squad you'll see that can catch up to you. Their low health is more than likely why they were given the speed. So just pick your engagements. Their fighters won't be able to catch you. While attack the red attack planes and once you see the red fighters incoming, pull your fihhhters away. Use your fighters to harass the enemy attack planes or use them to bait the red CVs fighters into trying to catch and fight yours. All this while you know they're fighters won't catch you. So while their fighters are chasing your fighters around, you've essentially locked his fighters out of the battle without having to fight them. Your bombs will then have free reign to harass any ship you want to target.

[hipcanuck]

Its a gimmick......WoWs has become very gimmick oriented. Its the easiest way to NOT balance things out.

 

The GZ will play, more or less, just like the Kaga. Sometimes you are the hammer, sometimes you are the nail. Expect to get a 55% WR average on the server, with 55% of the games being fun as hell and the other 45% being chewed up as AA fodder....much like the Kaga.

[SinqueScheiDeMona]

This thread feels like an advertisement for Which Wich now. 

[Madwolf05]

The statement on the Graf Zeppelin is incredibly frustrating. I don't care if the 2/1/2 for the GZ would be "boring" or "vanilla." Stick a [edited]naked drunk German on the back complaining of Crabs to give a tribute to Das Boot, and have him shoot fireworks at incoming fighters. BOOM! FLAVoR! NONE VANILLA! And the GZ gets to not suck for some [edited] reason.

[Sakuzhi]

22 hours ago, skull_122_steel said:

the GZ's aircraft are tier eight the problem with them is the fighters have lackluster DPS which stems from them being BF-109 Ts which have one 20mm in the nose along with two 7.92 mm MGs not the best arment when facing planes with six .50 cals or two 20mm and two 12.7mm 

You're aware it's actually to 7.92mgs with 2x20mm in the wings on the 109E model, which is what they are modeled as.

Not the super killing 20mm MG-FF, but the 20mm MG.

[skull_122_steel]

1 hour ago, Sakuzhi said:

You're aware it's actually to 7.92mgs with 2x20mm in the wings on the 109E model, which is what they are modeled as.

Not the super killing 20mm MG-FF, but the 20mm MG.

oh  I thought that the BF-109 Ts were BF-109 Fs

[Sakuzhi]

10 minutes ago, skull_122_steel said:

oh  I thought that the BF-109 Ts were BF-109 Fs

The models in the game are very blocky, They have the clipped wings of the E along with the general block'ie' look to the engine Frame, as well as the tail isn't as smoothed out as the F-model.

 

 

[skull_122_steel]

2 hours ago, Sakuzhi said:

The models in the game are very blocky, They have the clipped wings of the E along with the general block'ie' look to the engine Frame, as well as the tail isn't as smoothed out as the F-model.

 

 

Ok thanks for correcting me