Ranked - The Burnout..The fail Gameplay.

[Spyde]

Once again.. i hit Rank 1.. and once again.. I have lost all motivation to play the game.

 

Only took me 102 games this season, but it still turned out the same... Just like the last 2 seasons i played.

 

My Experience of ranked this season

- TK'ers multiple games in a row in the 5-2 que.  (Ran into the same guy 2x Ranked matches in a row.. and 1x random.  He would torp a friendly.. then drive into the enemy to die...  Then an hour later.. saw him in Random.. He did the exact same thing)

- People who give up before match started.. charge die to get out of the match. (They out skill us.. They have better ships.. etc etc....)

- People who are in a yelling match at another team mate from the previous match.. State they will not work together and go to seperate ends of the map from each other..... to both fail.

- All around bad play.. (I'm not talking skill level.. i'm talking people only playing for themselves.. gota save that star.. hiding away from the fleet trying to sneak points in just to get 1st)

 

Getting Ranked 1 wasn't hard for me, having the patience with some of the other players in the que was. Super Solo Pug Competition really isn't that fun. (Once again.. i am in no way blaming player skill level.  I am blaming players failure to think about the team win more than their star)

 

Luckily.. this will be the last season of Ranked i will ever play. (Got the Flint)  I have to say.. i'm done with the Carrot on a stick... X rank 1 seasons to finally get a decent ship reward.  We got the Flint.. Then finally they said on hey here is the Black.. at 5x.. no idea what is at 7x... or 9x... etc etc.

 

So yea.. Going to take a couple more weeks off, playing very little.. So i can come back at a fresh start!  Here is hoping for Clan battles!

 

 

tldr Rank burnout.. taking a break. Will be back.

[HazardDrake]

The numbers seem to be showing that Ranked is becoming less and less popular due to the reasons you listed. 

[alexf24]

I'm not saying you are wrong. I quit Ranked earlier than I expected due to potatoes, but then Ranked is not the only way to play, so I enjoy it more in PvP/PvE.

Congrats on the Rank 1 and the patience to suffer through it.

[Madwolf05]

The joys of playing a Cruiser this season, pasted against a island, staring at rocks while you wait for your opportunity to fire your guns while the BBs trade angled fire and the DDs fight each other and have fun.

[Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi]

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[Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi]

14 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

The numbers seem to be showing that Ranked is becoming less and less popular due to the reasons you listed.

Numbers says otherwise.

[mofton]

Numbers crept up slightly when they massively lowered the barrier by making it all T6, instead of T7 or T6/T8 hybrid.

I'd also be interested to see what the average rank achieved was in comparison to previous.

[Cognitive_Dissonance]

@Spyde Sorry to hear this, I saw many of the things you did, the thing I saw most was CVs just yoloing into enemy cap and not launching a single plane. However, pulling yourself from future ranked means there is one less competent player . . . don't go!!

[Terrible_Turtle]

I really enjoyed ranked being at T6. Since I don't really play anything below T7 these days, it gave me a reason to play those ships again. However, I only played maybe 30 games this season. The change of pace was great, but I value my sanity too much to push through to Rank 1. 

[SeaRaptor]

10 minutes ago, Madwolf05 said:

The joys of playing a Cruiser this season, pasted against a island, staring at rocks while you wait for your opportunity to fire your guns while the BBs trade angled fire and the DDs fight each other and have fun.

Whenever WG goes on a gusher about how awesome T6 ranked is, this is why I get angry.  There are 12 T6 cruisers; barely 1/3 of them are viable to be in combat outside of smoke/island cover (Graf Spee, De Grasse, La Gal, Budyonny).  The rest are battleship fodder in a mode that no longer has caps on the quantity of battleships in a game as it once did.

You want dynamic gameplay?  You encourage cruisers.  You want boring, static, smoke-filled crap?   Enjoy your 3 BB, 4 DD game. 

The cure for static gameplay already exists in the game; WG needs only find a way to drive people to it. 

[Spyde]

Cruisers will always be tough in Ranked compared to DD's and BB's.   They are just so frail when spotted.

 

With how ranked is.. faster you down 1 enemy ship.. The better off your team is.. and there is nothing easier to kill than a cruiser who got in a bad spot for a few seconds.

Its much easier to stay alive in a DD or a BB, This removes the chances of mistakes a player can make early on.

 

 

 

Yea.. i think i lost my sanity some..  .. went back to randoms and started getting a little Ragey (which i *try* to avoid)  So yea.. break time.   Either way. I like the game to much to quit.  

[HazardDrake]

20 minutes ago, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said:

Numbers says otherwise.

Wrong. 

 

Half the number of people ranked out this season as last season on NA. 

 

The chart you cite shows my point, people play a few games and quickly say "screw this" and go back to randoms. This why so few made it to Rank 12. Very few have any interest or intent of trying to rank out. 

 

WG presents numbers that make Ranked LOOK healthy, but it is anything but. 

 

[Wulfgarn]

The burnout is real...

[HazardDrake]

17 minutes ago, Kombat_W0MBAT said:

I really enjoyed ranked being at T6. Since I don't really play anything below T7 these days, it gave me a reason to play those ships again. However, I only played maybe 30 games this season. The change of pace was great, but I value my sanity too much to push through to Rank 1. 

When you have players like @Combat__Wombat and @LittleWhiteMouse either unable to rank out or unwilling to inflict that much pain on themselves, you know that there is a freaking problem. 

[Terrible_Turtle]

3 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

When you have players like @Combat__Wombat and @LittleWhiteMouse either unable to rank out or unwilling to inflict that much pain on themselves, you know that there is a freaking problem. 

 

Well, to be fair, I've never ranked out. So it's not that I lost the motivation, I simply never had it in the first place. Having said that, I do hope they try to improve Ranked. Maybe one day I'll give it a concerted effort. 

 

Also, you tagged a different wombat. lol

[Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi]

8 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

Wrong. 

 

Half the number of people ranked out this season as last season on NA. 

 

The chart you cite shows my point, people play a few games and quickly say "screw this" and go back to randoms. This why so few made it to Rank 12. Very few have any interest or intent of trying to rank out. 

 

WG presents numbers that make Ranked LOOK healthy, but it is anything but. 

 

Fair enough but the number of players playing is consistent, as for how many rank out? it's not surprising that the number is smaller, most people don't bother they get to their max (which for me this season was 10) and then stop. Plus most people will only really try for the ships like Flint and Black. So my statement is still correct, Ranked is not becoming any less popular then it was before, people have complained about it since the First season and how unfair it can be due to potatoes yet the numbers remain consistent. You also need to remember last season was tier 7 so people had more ships (an OP cruiser in particular) to use. And with there being less people playing there was less chance of being with a team full of potatoes and making the grind to rank 1. Are their problems? Yes, I won't deny that. But unless the popularity crashes Wargaming will not bother to change it.

[sbcptnitro]

11 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

eople play a few games and quickly say "screw this" and go back to randoms. This why so few made it to Rank 12. Very few have any interest or intent of trying to rank out.

 

This was me. Made it to rank 5, which was about 5 ranks higher than I intended to go.

[theLaalaa]

Please look up the 1 or 2 replies I've made to similar posts about the refreshing atmosphere of Tier 1 play. Come back to the place you learned to love this game.

[LittleWhiteMouse]

I've been summoned!  *reads*

I wanted to hit rank one this season, but it had little to do with burnout and more to do with having too many things on my plate.  Between working on reviews for Enterprise, Iwaki Alpha, Blyskawica, Gallant, Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin, participating in Corgi Fleet and wanting to put time into the scenarios, something had to give and it was Ranked Battles.

[Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi]

36 minutes ago, HazardDrake said:

When you have players like @Combat__Wombat and @LittleWhiteMouse either unable to rank out or unwilling to inflict that much pain on themselves, you know that there is a freaking problem. 

 

33 minutes ago, Kombat_W0MBAT said:

 

Well, to be fair, I've never ranked out. So it's not that I lost the motivation, I simply never had it in the first place. Having said that, I do hope they try to improve Ranked. Maybe one day I'll give it a concerted effort. 

 

10 minutes ago, LittleWhiteMouse said:

I've been summoned!  *reads*

I wanted to hit rank one this season, but it had little to do with burnout and more to do with having too many things on my plate.  Between working on reviews for Enterprise, Iwaki Alpha, Blyskawica, Gallant, Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin, participating in Corgi Fleet and wanting to put time into the scenarios, something had to give and it was Ranked Battles.

It appears you are wrong on your assumption.

[Kevs02Accord]

I feel you Spyde, we had several games together and I was shocked at the play in the R5-1 bracket, even early in season when I was in the top 75 players there was some atrocious play by everyone, unicums and potatoes, me included. I think the ships are better balanced with each other at this tier, but the barrier to entry in ranked is much too low. There need to be more requirements, etc.. The frustrating part for me was the yo-yo. For the majority of my games I did what I as supposed to, deal damage, tank damage, etc... usually placed in top 3, even in losses. Then you look at the score board and see people with half, or less the points of the top 3 and you're like wth! I would have ranked out this season, but I lost track of time, thought I had one more week. The biggest issue is losing star, shouldn't be losing stars, increase the number of wins required to rank, but the backwards motion is infuriating.

 

I got burned out this season, way worse than last season. At least last season I got R1 so there was that relief, now I just have blue balls after this ranked season. I haven't played in a couple of days and the further I get from playing WOWs the more I don't want to play it. I am getting fed up with ranked, and a lot of WG decisions. I am contemplating uninstalling the game.

[Sovereigndawg]

Lots of people go until rank 10 and then stop, just to get the signals. There may be more participants but there is less trying to rank out. I have never tried to rank out because the whole ranked meta is flawed, and not so fun. I might have played more but I had a bunch of fiends that just started playing and I was helping them a lot. Unfortunately they have now stopped playing because of the +2/-2 but not really +2/-2 (tier 4) match maker and the fact that they couldn't buy the premium ships that they wanted because WG won't put their full product line on the shelf all at one time. Please fire the guy that told you it is smart to offer your premiums intermittently.

[SyndicatedINC]

2 hours ago, Spyde said:

 

My Experience of ranked this season

- TK'ers multiple games in a row in the 5-2 que.  (Ran into the same guy 2x Ranked matches in a row.. and 1x random.  He would torp a friendly.. then drive into the enemy to die...  Then an hour later.. saw him in Random.. He did the exact same thing)

- People who give up before match started.. charge die to get out of the match. (They out skill us.. They have better ships.. etc etc....)

- People who are in a yelling match at another team mate from the previous match.. State they will not work together and go to seperate ends of the map from each other..... to both fail.

- All around bad play.. (I'm not talking skill level.. i'm talking people only playing for themselves.. gota save that star.. hiding away from the fleet trying to sneak points in just to get 1st)

 

 

Totally agreed Spyde.  I love whenever someone tells me that there are no/or so few it doesn't matter intentional TK'ers in the higher ranks.  Bull dookey, I see it every season.  Someone lost a string of matches and decides to vent by taking a bunch of strangers down with them.  It is a joke that the "competitive" mode  considers a match with an intentional TK a legitimate evaluation of one team gaining a star and another losing a star.  

 

I say it every time, it just isn't worth the frustration.  A team results system where players are forced onto random teams with no MM other than the current stars is bound to generate lots of hostility.  Add to it the increased frustration of the yo-yo effect and people trying to finish before they run out of the limited flag consumables, and you create the perfect recipe for an irritating experience.  

 

If they want to reward individual play then do so, either make it 1v1 games or make star awards/removals based on individual score not team win/loss.  If they rather reward successful team play then remove save a star for top XP loser and allow divisions. (or heaven forbid actually bring back team battles and make that the ranked mode, omg the horror)

 

If they want to encourage people to play more games then remove the yo-yo affect by making every rank safe, current only a minor few spam huge amounts of games, with many quitting after they hit their yo-yo point.  Or if they are actually against spamming games to get to the top then take away ALL safe ranks, as all the safe ranks do is create a larger yo-yo affect from the folks who keep sneaking back into the next bracket only to lose their first game and drag the rest of their teammates down a star, over and over and over and over again.  

 

 

Currently we have a terrible hybridization of individual/team along with spam games/don't spam games.  It is like ranked mode is bipolar.

[awiggin]

1 hour ago, Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi said:

Numbers says otherwise.

 

Not very bright are you?

WG didn't list the NA stats separately for a reason. Based 0n ship comraded numbers, only about 600 players made rank 1 this season...that's half of last seasons total.

And when you figure that only 0.15% of the player base actually takes it seriously, it tells you everything you need to know about ranked.

[Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi]

23 minutes ago, awiggin said:

 

Not very bright are you?

WG didn't list the NA stats separately for a reason. Based 0n ship comraded numbers, only about 600 players made rank 1 this season...that's half of last seasons total.

And when you figure that only 0.15% of the player base actually takes it seriously, it tells you everything you need to know about ranked.

Dude, your not reading my post. My point was not about the amount of people at Rank 1, I know that there is far less than last season and aknowledged that. My point was that Wargaming bases it's opinions on the number of people playing at all which has not changed. As far as Wargaming is concerned there is no issue with Ranked. So before you insult me look at what I'm saying.