113 Aussie_Aussie_Aussie Members 224 posts 10,009 battles Report post #1 Posted August 11, 2017 Hi is it possible to give the perth the same range as the leander? or give her an increase in the rate of fire ... something ... anything to help the ole girl out Its the same ship under a different nation. yes it has smoke but whats the use of that when as soon as you run out youre within 12km and get rekt. Just a small request as a member of the commonwealth;) I want to play this ship and have had some decent games in her but only if youre top teir otherwise your pretty useless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #2 Posted August 11, 2017 You need to equip the spotter plane. It also helps if you have the spotter plane module so it stays up longer. The range reduction is the price you pay to be able to stay in smoke whilst moving (unlike the static PLEASE TORP ME Leander small smoke), and being able to fire GE and thus set fire to things. The spotter plane helps mitigate the downside but let's you keep the upside, which I think is fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #3 Posted August 11, 2017 What I do think is silly is that it is part of the Commonwealth tree and not the UK, so you can't train UK captains on her. That's why I've not bought one ( but I run my Leander a lot). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,590 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 38,631 posts 31,263 battles Report post #4 Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) I own and love Perth. While it would be a nice quality of life improvement to get longer range, the balance of the ship is delicate. She has definite, sharp contrasting strengths and weaknesses. It was enough to show that in this past Tier VI Ranked, she was the best performing Cruiser. Surprise, surprise, stealthy Cruisers with smoke capability did very well in Ranked. The way she has held up in the rigors of Ranked, I'm hesitant to seek buffs to her. She has HE+AP options, she has torps (which Belfast lacks), she can launch catapult aircraft (which Belfast lacks), she has Hydro, she has creeping smoke ability that lasts long (nothing else in the game has that, not even DDs), and she has excellent concealment range, topping even Leander. The price she pays is short gun range, a super-squishy hull, and a smoke generator that takes forever to come off CD. Putting more capability is going to upset this thing's balance. Edited August 11, 2017 by HazeGrayUnderway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
65 [SCAVS] SilhoutteFG Members 216 posts 9,332 battles Report post #5 Posted August 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, UltimateNewbie said: What I do think is silly is that it is part of the Commonwealth tree and not the UK, so you can't train UK captains on her. That's why I've not bought one ( but I run my Leander a lot). I don't want UK commanders in my Australian ships. National pride and all that :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #6 Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, SilhoutteFG said: I don't want UK commanders in my Australian ships. National pride and all that :) You have such a colonial mindset. My headcanon on says that they are all Australian commanders leading British ships ;-). Edited August 11, 2017 by UltimateNewbie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
65 [SCAVS] SilhoutteFG Members 216 posts 9,332 battles Report post #7 Posted August 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, UltimateNewbie said: You have such a colonial mindset. My headcanon on says that they are all Australian commanders leading British ships ;-). Haha! you could make an argument to that point, but I prefer to view them as only British designed and constructed ships. :) While we are at it, give me HMAS Australia! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
269 Merlox Members 832 posts 5,277 battles Report post #8 Posted August 11, 2017 Perth is currently bugged, I'm not using it. zzz It's best to use the Perth as a Heavy gun destroyer. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
183 [AA-DS] Simzee Members 979 posts Report post #9 Posted August 11, 2017 I'm also an avid Perth fan as I'm an Aussie to but I agree with Haze this ship is finely balanced around certain attributes. If it's doing ok stats wise WG won't touch it, I'm barely average player overall and it's not an easy ship to do well in. Majority of games are bottom tier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
653 dionkraft Members 3,594 posts 7,435 battles Report post #10 Posted August 11, 2017 Took the Perf out last week and in 5 min got blown up by some NM with a lucky shot...and I survived with some 90 Hp.....I quit that weekend to recover... just a wrong time in Karma... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
269 Merlox Members 832 posts 5,277 battles Report post #11 Posted August 11, 2017 59 minutes ago, murryhawk said: I'm also an avid Perth fan as I'm an Aussie to but I agree with Haze this ship is finely balanced around certain attributes. If it's doing ok stats wise WG won't touch it, I'm barely average player overall and it's not an easy ship to do well in. Majority of games are bottom tier Not only are you out tiered almost every game (Radar is every where) but also you have almost no advantages as the leander. The skill roof on that is INSANE though, I've seen and have been the top scoring player in a few games, and others i've been wiped out with a simple breath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
682 [SCRAP] ArmouredCarriers Beta Testers 1,690 posts 5,592 battles Report post #12 Posted August 11, 2017 She's hard, but one you get a feel for her ... she's fun. I don't use spotter. I use catapult fighters. These stay up forever. While they don't give you a range boost, it turns Perth into something akin to a Tier VI Belfast... (smokey smokey shoot shoot). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
580 [PLPTV] Ulthwey Members 1,457 posts 9,077 battles Report post #13 Posted August 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Aussie_Aussie_Aussie said: Hi is it possible to give the perth the same range as the leander? or give her an increase in the rate of fire ... something ... anything to help the ole girl out Its the same ship under a different nation. yes it has smoke but whats the use of that when as soon as you run out youre within 12km and get rekt. Just a small request as a member of the commonwealth;) I want to play this ship and have had some decent games in her but only if youre top teir otherwise your pretty useless She can have IFHE and mobile smoke, that by itself is enough to make this ship borderline OP in the right hands. I have seen good Perth players absolutely tear the enemy fleet apart. She doesnt need anything aside from a good player to pilot her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
656 anonymised Members 1,684 posts 20,078 battles Report post #14 Posted August 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Ulthwey said: She can have IFHE and mobile smoke, that by itself is enough to make this ship borderline OP in the right hands. I have seen good Perth players absolutely tear the enemy fleet apart. She doesnt need anything aside from a good player to pilot her. For the longest time I wished for survivability buffs. Now, I don't even care if I'm bottom tier. With 19 points this ship is amazing and although I'd love some more range, it would make it a bit OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,347 Chaos_EN2 ∞ Members 4,203 posts Report post #15 Posted August 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Aussie_Aussie_Aussie said: Hi is it possible to give the perth the same range as the leander? or give her an increase in the rate of fire ... something ... anything to help the ole girl out Its the same ship under a different nation. yes it has smoke but whats the use of that when as soon as you run out youre within 12km and get rekt. Just a small request as a member of the commonwealth;) I want to play this ship and have had some decent games in her but only if youre top teir otherwise your pretty useless As far as your idea of more range, if WG was to do that they would most likely have to take something away. She is a good little ship her and the Graf Spee are my too favorite ships, some of the stuff I picked up or have found on here; learn to watch you map and have terrain close to duck into when you smoke is gone. Also for CL sometimes it is better not to fire so they lose sight of you. 8 hours ago, SilhoutteFG said: I don't want UK commanders in my Australian ships. National pride and all that :) No offense to your National Pride but you do know in Real Life the Perth's Last Captain Hector Waller served on RN ships as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
183 [AA-DS] Simzee Members 979 posts Report post #16 Posted August 11, 2017 Double fighters here too, tbh uptiering doesn't bother me just means I get more XP. Trying not to check my stats in it coz then Ill just play worse trying to get better in it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 Hunter_Steel ∞ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,630 posts 5,107 battles Report post #17 Posted August 11, 2017 9 hours ago, UltimateNewbie said: You need to equip the spotter plane. It also helps if you have the spotter plane module so it stays up longer. The range reduction is the price you pay to be able to stay in smoke whilst moving (unlike the static PLEASE TORP ME Leander small smoke), and being able to fire GE and thus set fire to things. The spotter plane helps mitigate the downside but let's you keep the upside, which I think is fair. Tell that to Payfast. ~Hunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #18 Posted August 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hunter_Steel said: Tell that to Payfast. ~Hunter Payfast has other benefits to offset the static smoke, not least of which is radar and the Tier 8 concealment module. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 Hunter_Steel ∞ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,630 posts 5,107 battles Report post #19 Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, UltimateNewbie said: Payfast has other benefits to offset the static smoke, not least of which is radar and the Tier 8 concealment module. They have no reason for keeping Perth as weak as she is. I fear Leanders more than Perths. They could increase her range to Leander's range just to make her slightly more dangerous and more viable as a premium purchase. Remember, Belfast is called the Payfast for a reason. ~Hunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25 GarethOfKelshim Members 126 posts 7,542 battles Report post #20 Posted August 11, 2017 Perth is fun and I think it's decent. The trick is you need to be thinking a minute or so ahead and start slowly turning to disengage while your smoke is still going instead of waiting until it is done. and yeah, the spotter plane makes a huge difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
440 More_Witches Members 1,507 posts 1,138 battles Report post #21 Posted August 11, 2017 Spotter Plane + Direction Comtrol Center for Catapult Aircraft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
65 [SCAVS] SilhoutteFG Members 216 posts 9,332 battles Report post #22 Posted August 12, 2017 14 hours ago, Chaos_EN2 said: No offense to your National Pride but you do know in Real Life the Perth's Last Captain Hector Waller served on RN ships as well? A lot of Australian personnel served on RN ships, especially in WW1 and the interwar years. Our navy just wasn't large or experienced enough. He was still an Aussie through and through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,728 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,538 posts 12,810 battles Report post #23 Posted August 12, 2017 14 hours ago, Hunter_Steel said: They have no reason for keeping Perth as weak as she is. I fear Leanders more than Perths. They could increase her range to Leander's range just to make her slightly more dangerous and more viable as a premium purchase. Remember, Belfast is called the Payfast for a reason. ~Hunter why? because paykaga doesnt sound as good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
267 [KOOKS] Krautjaeger [KOOKS] Modder 827 posts 5,281 battles Report post #24 Posted August 12, 2017 Perth is an awesome ship if played right, put the smoke upgrade on it and cruise at 1/4 speed for total coverage on the move. Sneak up on enemies that way, dodge torpedoes better as you are already moving. I think Perth is just fine as it is, imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,590 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 38,631 posts 31,263 battles Report post #25 Posted August 12, 2017 20 hours ago, Merlox said: Not only are you out tiered almost every game (Radar is every where) but also you have almost no advantages as the leander. The skill roof on that is INSANE though, I've seen and have been the top scoring player in a few games, and others i've been wiped out with a simple breath. Leander and Perth have advantages and disadvantages to each other, they do things that the other cannot do or do as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
