The Belfast as a Brit CL trainer

[Krupp_Sabot]

Hello I was wondering if the Belfast would still be a viable trainer for the brit CL line with the absence of IFHE and DE which are largely useless on the brit CLs?

[DeadManxDan]

Its really not because IFHE and DE are very heavily recommended for Belfast.  You can do it you just wont get the best out of the Belfast without a specific captain for it.

[Cruxdei]

3 minutes ago, Krupp_Sabot said:

absence of IFHE and DE which are largely useless on the brit CLs?

i'm literally cringing here,what the hell?

[FayFay731]

I mean you could play it like a Fiji.

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[DeadManxDan]

2 minutes ago, FayFay731 said:

I mean you could play it like a Fiji.

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My exact reaction lol. +1

[Krupp_Sabot]

7 minutes ago, MountainManxDan said:

Its really not because IFHE and DE are very heavily recommended for Belfast.  You can do it you just wont get the best out of the Belfast without a specific captain for it.

I see that's too bad looks like a fun ship like the Atlanta which I hope gets sold again soon..

 

6 minutes ago, Cruxdei said:

i'm literally cringing here,what the hell?

Other than mildly buffing secondaries what use are those perks on brit CLs? That's a 7 point investment which is a pretty big one for a very small return.

[IronWolfV]

18 minutes ago, Krupp_Sabot said:

Hello I was wondering if the Belfast would still be a viable trainer for the brit CL line with the absence of IFHE and DE which are largely useless on the brit CLs?

She'd be ok, but Belfast actually has HE and no torps. So IEHE and DE are actually amazing on the ship.

[Cruxdei]

5 minutes ago, Krupp_Sabot said:

I see that's too bad looks like a fun ship like the Atlanta which I hope gets sold again soon..

 

Other than mildly buffing secondaries what use are those perks on brit CLs? That's a 7 point investment which is a pretty big one for a very small return.

IFHE and DE increase belfast fire chance and ability to HE shells penetrate more parts of the enemy ships.it's perhaps the most important perks to any ship with 152mm guns.

[Deviathan]

6 minutes ago, Cruxdei said:

IFHE and DE increase belfast fire chance and ability to HE shells penetrate more parts of the enemy ships.it's perhaps the most important perks to any ship with 152mm guns.

 

I think you should re-read what he was asking in the OP.  In case you try again and still don't get it, what the OP is asking is this:

Can the Belfast viably be used as a UK CL trainer since IFHE and DE are so important on it?

To the OP, I'd almost say the Hood and Warspite would be better trainers than the Belfast for that.

[Krupp_Sabot]

Just now, Deviathan said:

 

I think you should re-read what he was asking in the OP.  In case you try again and still don't get it, what the OP is asking is this:

Can the Belfast viably be used as a UK CL trainer since IFHE and DE are so important on it?

To the OP, I'd almost say the Hood and Warspite would be better trainers than the Belfast for that.

Yeah plus I was realizing that the Torp reload skill which would be nice on the main line would be as useless on the Belfast as IFHE and DE would be on every other brit cl.. Oh well if I quit the line for the 3rd time the Belly could be a good home for Jacky D.

[Cruxdei]

4 minutes ago, Deviathan said:

 

I think you should re-read what he was asking in the OP.  In case you try again and still don't get it, what the OP is asking is this:

Can the Belfast viably be used as a UK CL trainer since IFHE and DE are so important on it?

To the OP, I'd almost say the Hood and Warspite would be better trainers than the Belfast for that.

"viable trainer for the brit CL line with the absence of IFHE and DE which are largely useless on the brit CLs?"

if absence and largely useless means "important" then i better stop reading and writing in english and go back to kid's english school.

[Deviathan]

Just now, Cruxdei said:

"viable trainer for the brit CL line with the absence of IFHE and DE which are largely useless on the brit CLs?"

if absence and largely useless means "important" then i better stop reading and writing in english and go back to kid's english school.

Well he did explain that he had secondaries in mind when he said "largely useless" instead of "completely useless"

[Cruxdei]

Just now, Deviathan said:

Well he did explain that he had secondaries in mind when he said "largely useless" instead of "completely useless"

i think he thought IFHE and DE buffed secondaries,he didn't know that ifhe and DE actually increase fire chance and 152mm guns penetration.

[Kapitan_Wuff]

Belfast requires (performs best) with skills that may do not benefit the other ships of the line.. so no, it really doesn't work as a trainer. 

[Deviathan]

Just now, Cruxdei said:

i think he thought IFHE and DE buffed secondaries,he didn't know that ifhe and DE actually increase fire chance and 152mm guns penetration.

Maybe not, he could have worded it better but how you responded just made me go "why even bother responding?"

[Cruxdei]

Just now, Deviathan said:

Maybe not, he could have worded it better but how you responded just made me go "why even bother responding?"

that's nice of you.

[Uber_Ghost]

55 minutes ago, Krupp_Sabot said:

Hello I was wondering if the Belfast would still be a viable trainer for the brit CL line with the absence of IFHE and DE which are largely useless on the brit CLs?

As of today, the Belfast is the highest-tiered RN premium...which would net you more experience across the board.  And, about IFHE and DE, it really depends how painful spending doubloons is to you.  Each switch costs a max of 475 in captain retraining.  And, it seems somewhat pointless to not run IFHE and DE on a Belfast.  That's a serious bummer to the fun factor.  Is it worth throwing a small bit of cash or doubloons for the fun factor?  That's up to you.     

[Deviathan]

5 minutes ago, Cruxdei said:

that's nice of you.

Yes, quite

[SgtSpud]

32 minutes ago, Cruxdei said:

i think he thought IFHE and DE buffed secondaries,he didn't know that ifhe and DE actually increase fire chance and 152mm guns penetration.

Actually IFHE decreases fire chance by 3% but increases penetration of HE ....... and DE increases fire chance by 2%.

 

 

[Cruxdei]

8 minutes ago, SgtSpud said:

Actually IFHE decreases fire chance by 3% but increases penetration of HE ....... and DE increases fire chance by 2%.

 

 

basically 1% of fire chance lost,for belfast it's not THAT important since the rof do the rest.

come to think of it,IFHE make the ship less dependant on fire to stack damage.

[TheKrimzonDemon]

1 hour ago, Krupp_Sabot said:

Hello I was wondering if the Belfast would still be a viable trainer for the brit CL line with the absence of IFHE and DE which are largely useless on the brit CLs?

Belfast doesn't really work as a trainer for, well, anything in the RN. She's unique, what works for her won't work for any other ship that they currently have or will have any time soon. Now, if you're willing to spend doubloons to respec the captain, then of course she's a good trainer, all premiums are faster trainers for captains that tech tree ships. However, the general rule is train your captains on ships with the same setups, to not have to spend those doubloons.

 

I wouldn't suggest using her for training.

[Batavian1]

Like others have mentioned, if your intent is to start training captains for the upcoming release of the Royal Navy battleships, your better choice would be the Warspite.

[Ju87s]

Yes, the Belfast is a great trainer, here's why: with the addition of Elite Commander XP, any and all 19 point captains can be used to generate free XP for commanders.  The Belfast is absolutely worth grinding a 19 pt captain for, because then it will give you plenty of free XP to train UK captains, French Captains, German Captains, American Captains, etc.  Buying premiums to swap commanders into is a thing of the past, and people should be focusing on just getting that Elite XP than can be used for any and all nations.