159 [WOLF4] ZaCLoNe Members 388 posts 14,388 battles Report post #1 Posted July 12, 2017 What could be done to increase player activity or bring WoWs into the spotlight? We know how well WoTs has done yet we haven't seen an eSports channel or immense internet activity surrounding this. League of Legends obviously is a example of where any online game-like-genre would like to be. So, does there need to be more diversification to the game, create more awareness of game, offer different modes to be more strategic vs tactical, changes to graphics/sounds/settings, larger/longer lasting game modes vs smaller/short game modes? Just a few thoughts and wanted to know what people think that have been with this game longer than me (about a week now; KM tier v BB/CL). p.s. Let's not break the game, I just want to know what has been discussed and WG's stance/input on it if any. Plus, I am curious to see what has been requested for this game and see if it has been implemented or promised in any form. Thanks for sharing thoughts and hope to see you either on or under the sea :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,480 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,847 posts 27,288 battles Report post #2 Posted July 12, 2017 WoWS is never going to be as big as WoT. Just not gonna happen. Not by a long shot. The reason being that naval ships and warfare is a niche interest at most. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
159 [WOLF4] ZaCLoNe Members 388 posts 14,388 battles Report post #3 Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) I will admit that what drew me to this game over WoTs. There is just an itch that WoWs has offered. I wish there would be more,lack of a better term, diversity to it. Something to bring in a larger player base. I can't really identify what it would need though. We have missions, teams, classic grind, pvp. How about Hazard maps with actual attrition from elements or running away in those escape boats on your ships when it sinks (haha). I don't know, I'm not hating on the game, I am happy with how it is developed. What about spreading across eras? Galleys to large sail ships to futuristic/modern. Much more to expand on and could feed more into people looking for that historical itch and gameplay. I think I am just interested in what can be further expanded with it since it is so unique with naval warfare and all. +1 Lert btw, I appreciate your reviews and insight to new players and you have really helped disseminate details of the game to a newcomer! Edited July 12, 2017 by ZaCLoNer mistype Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
900 vonKaiser Alpha Tester 2,902 posts 6,252 battles Report post #4 Posted July 12, 2017 Don't think you'd see it happen. RNG dependence for one thing makes for a tougher entry into the "E-Sport" genre. Then add in that Ships is a more... Don't want to say laid back, but a slower paced game which would be a hard sell for spectators to sit through and retain viewership for. Not unless they were to run tournaments and do highlight reels like some of the youtubers are so good at doing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #5 Posted July 12, 2017 I agree with Lert that WOWS will be limited in appeal just due to the subject matter. However some greater appeal can be offered through different game modes. I think the addition of scenarios is helping cater to the PVE crowd a bit more. Also, we players can through word of mouth try to encourage other gamers to try WOWS and through some support perhaps we can get some to stay. This is especially important by helping out new players to get comfortable with the game as it can be overwhelming trying to learn it all starting out. I think those of us who have been around longer might be a bit jaded in viewing new players in a poor light and forgetting how much effort it can take to learn the ropes when starting from scratch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
159 [WOLF4] ZaCLoNe Members 388 posts 14,388 battles Report post #6 Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, vonKaiser said: Don't think you'd see it happen. RNG dependence for one thing makes for a tougher entry into the "E-Sport" genre. Then add in that Ships is a more... Don't want to say laid back, but a slower paced game which would be a hard sell for spectators to sit through and retain viewership for. Not unless they were to run tournaments and do highlight reels like some of the youtubers are so good at doing. I was kind of thinking expanded mode in esports. Like 3 or 4 teams (on larger maps) where there is still some objective but have to coordinate with your team against 2 or 3 other teams. I see your point though with the RNG and slower pace, hard selling point when people like flashy quick action and KB smashing games. 4 minutes ago, RipNuN2 said: I agree with Lert that WOWS will be limited in appeal just due to the subject matter. However some greater appeal can be offered through different game modes. I think the addition of scenarios is helping cater to the PVE crowd a bit more. Also, we players can through word of mouth try to encourage other gamers to try WOWS and through some support perhaps we can get some to stay. This is especially important by helping out new players to get comfortable with the game as it can be overwhelming trying to learn it all starting out. I think those of us who have been around longer might be a bit jaded in viewing new players in a poor light and forgetting how much effort it can take to learn the ropes when starting from scratch. Yes, I have pulled two friends into this game and they are really enjoying it. One of them has talked a coworker into trying it as well. I really like hearing stories like that where you see it in action and not relying on reviews to carry a game. It's just like Elite Dangerous with its sharp learning curve but the community can really help out and make it more enjoyable/manageable with the wealth of information the game has. And I +1 Lert because of the very helpful information in the forums that someone interested in the game should at least take a few seconds to visit the forums, if not at least during the download of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
924 [TSF_1] pewpewpew42 Members 3,301 posts 7,816 battles Report post #7 Posted July 12, 2017 It's not fast enough to satisfy (many) people's entertainment appetites. The same way watching an ant hill is entertaining, but takes a while to appreciate and nothing really happens in the mean time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,639 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,243 posts 43,664 battles Report post #8 Posted July 12, 2017 To be honest, I don't give a rat's behind about so-called "E-sports". And while I've played WoT a lot in past years (on the order of 33k games or so), that game has been moving increasingly away from what attracted me to it in the first place. It's becoming more and more a twitch reflexes game. With faster tanks dominating and TDs becoming more and more meaningless. I hated when WoT nerfed TDs into oblivion with the change that made TDs much easier to spot after firing even when hiding behind bushes, for example. The various anti-TD changes have made it so that about the only TDs that have a chance of being effective are either the highly mobile (usually turreted) ones, or the super heavily armored ones. If you're somewhere in between, life is extremely difficult. Anyways, I like how WoWS is just a slower paced game where outthinking the enemy is more important than having better twitch response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,206 [PVE] Sovereigndawg Members 12,079 posts 21,321 battles Report post #9 Posted July 12, 2017 It's not quite as slow a chess more like checkers paced and it's not for everyone. The player base is growing though, it seems. The community is where this game tends to shine, there are quite a lot of fine people in game and here in the forums. There is some toxicity but it is not as bad as other games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
159 [WOLF4] ZaCLoNe Members 388 posts 14,388 battles Report post #10 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) I understand how "esports" for this is probably not the most entertaining, put into perspective. I guess at this point, the game is just a niche for gamers since there is a lack of games that provide the type of naval gameplay like WoWs has. Pretty hard to market in that fashion to a wide fan base.I just would like to see new things put out there to appeal to a larger fan base to join ranks. I know people say they are tired of flag caps and other things. It would just be interesting if they could maybe develop other things. More teams at once, different naval eras, (with limited parameters if you catch my drift; i.e. not all dd or bb allowed or only dd/cv/bb/ca modes) search and destroy/"hardcore" modes/free for all/shared ships (1 navigator/1 gunner),king of the hill/ cv/bb/ca/dd only battles/ stock lives with/ battles\maps with environmental affects on ship stamina/abilities. I mean there is a lot of options and maybe not all of them are viable/practical with the setup of the game but there has to be other venues to draw people in and make their clans/friends or find friends. Edited July 13, 2017 by ZaCLoNer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
820 Wowzery Members 4,637 posts Report post #11 Posted July 13, 2017 Warships has always been more of a niche game over other war games which involve tanks, or even infantry. I play warships over tanks due to the fact I love warships, especially the first half of the twentieth century warships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,114 [FOXEH] Umikami Banned 14,364 posts 23,364 battles Report post #12 Posted July 14, 2017 On 7/12/2017 at 8:00 AM, Lert said: WoWS is never going to be as big as WoT. Just not gonna happen. Not by a long shot. The reason being that naval ships and warfare is a niche interest at most. That's funny (interesting) in that I would think guys would like blowing things up with ships just as much or more than they would enjoy blowing things up with tanks. (or not) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
