3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #1 Posted July 3, 2017 Man has it been frustrating... but I after 39 battles I clawed my way to my first "holding" slot, Rank 12. Yes I know.. others are already down to Rank 5 - ya for them. I'm an average player but I have noticed a few things. Here's some screen shots: Spoiler I need to up my DR but there it is so far. Spoiler My Fuso stats Spoiler My Budyonny stats... Spoiler And my Bayern... So Fuso, Budyonny and Bayern I do great. My Spee, Shinome (only one match heh heh) and NewMex play was horrid, i mean absolutely rotten. I'd be interested to hear if your ship list is anything similar - tia fyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
549 [TDD] nina_blain_73 Members 1,237 posts 9,516 battles Report post #2 Posted July 3, 2017 my attempts in Arizona were horrid same for my Farragut both which i thought I would do ok in. So far I have done ok, nothing special, in Warspite, Graf Spee and Cleveland so I think I will stick with those three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
648 Nachoo31 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,050 posts Report post #3 Posted July 3, 2017 A whole lot of overpening in Warspite unless they are bow on. Gets frustrating sometimes. Made 11 in 26 battles somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
75 [-TLO-] Eclaire_ Members 169 posts 9,703 battles Report post #4 Posted July 3, 2017 Made it up to 10 with Farragut this morning, and have spent most of the day bouncing between 10 and 12 with the Farragut and the Fuso. Sitting at 11 now and rather nervous to return to the grind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,848 Wulfgarn Members 5,597 posts 7,121 battles Report post #5 Posted July 3, 2017 I'm going to start tonight, but I appreciate you posting your numbers. Posts like this are helping me to try and get as mentality prepared as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
86 [NBNG] Buzzardsluck Members 418 posts 17,312 battles Report post #6 Posted July 3, 2017 Made it to level 13 the first 2 days. with a over about a 50K damage. Been downhill ever since the "potato gazette printed Ranked started" and "I am a genius who can do it on my own player started". Lucky to get 1 in 5 good games. Just doing it now to rank up another Captain. Hopefully tonight the good players will return. If not back to random or maybe experiment with my newly bought Warspite. Game has too many bad players. A method has to be introduced instead of the karma nonsense, where the team can vote some negative action against a really bad player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #7 Posted July 4, 2017 Hard to believe this is the seventh season... really it is... man... and by the looks of it some of you are doing very well so far this season while others, well, having my kind of luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #8 Posted July 4, 2017 You know... I just realized there are no safe harbors below rank 12! Perhaps they got tired of us asking for them, eh? Man... that's a serious grind from 11 down. 24 stars (11 to 6) 21 stars (5 to 1) Just checked into Rank 11 today... have one month, three days to complete 45 stars for rank 1. Anyone else think that's a pretty long winning streak? ;-0 tiafyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
189 [RENB2] Hualalai Beta Testers 941 posts 8,574 battles Report post #9 Posted July 5, 2017 In the past I set a goal to get to the best safe rank. Anything over that is gravy, I play a little, maybe get one more rank or so, and give up. Is more fun for me that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #10 Posted July 5, 2017 Yea... seems right to me... I just don't have the time nor desire to knock out that many victories. Got ma doubloons ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14 ErichTopp_U552 Members 88 posts Report post #11 Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Finally got to rank 17. Many, many, choke and puke "teams"...but the ones that were good were GOOD. Bayern is definitely the go-to. Edited July 6, 2017 by ErichTopp_U552 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #12 Posted July 6, 2017 Yup - What I find is there are a select group of ships folks seem to be playing - but each of us plays differently, just enough, that we just have to find what's right for us. I also keep one or two in reserve should I hit a wall... or if I see most of the ships like mine are doing really well, I might change up. But I don't do that too often ;-) Congrats and remember the general rule... lose one, it's a toss to go or stop. Loose two in a row, walk away, take a break. All the best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #13 Posted July 6, 2017 Made Rank 10 tonight - two great teams, two great matches, back to back - both in the Fuso. First match I got roasted but for a good cause. Even though I was last on our team, I scored better than first on their team. Second match 58K okay, finished third. Thanks to everyone on both teams. I'm gonna tell you these were almost ideal ranked battles. Teamwork. Everyone knew the goal and worked to it. So a public thanks to both green teams. Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
68 [-K_P-] CG59 Members 545 posts 3,883 battles Report post #14 Posted July 8, 2017 One star away from rank 9, been using my Farragut. With no statics whatsoever to back this up, my feeling is that it has been pretty smooth sailing, with some bad Cleveland games resulting in lost stars. For the most part, I have had a good time with ranked this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #15 Posted July 9, 2017 Congrats... I've tried my Shinome... and I stunk in her ;-) Farragut's a great ship if you play her well. All the best going forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
95 [W_H_S] SurpriseMotherTrucker Members 692 posts 21,535 battles Report post #16 Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) This is how I started the season...... Just gone down hill from there. Stuck on R11 for 2 days, not going forward not going backward but I can't get the WR up. I usually finish near the top but I can't bridge the team carry or influence enough to move forward. Edited July 15, 2017 by Pete_Darling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #17 Posted July 15, 2017 bummers... i switched to Leander ;-) Let me tell you what I've seen. Loss after loss because someone doesn't like the team plan so they camp or go off on their own. "There's plenty of time to win" but red's within 60 pts of winning. Two ships - one at 12, one at 14km away. To give us some points we need a kill to halt that 60pts. Yup, fire at the full hp 12km ship instead of the 14km FUSO with a couple HUNDRED points MAX hp. Tell them to fire at FUSO and get STFU in return. Of course they die in the next ten seconds without doing anything to win. Sigh. Last match, we were leading. Our one and only dd thinks it would be a good idea to get behind the reds so he goes oh, 15km out on his own. Of course you see "da*n" in chat when he gets one-shot by the cruiser he didn't see just behind the island. Trying to cap out to stay in a match we "were" winning and what do they do... they drive out of cap to "chase" the reds. We lose. Bottom line: people are playing ranked the same way they play random and coop - without thinking about winning. Or strategy. Or the team. Team play is a foreign concept to WoWS players. Don't know what can be done - I ask every ranked season if there is any good ideas on how to change this but nobody has yet offered up a good solution. So I got back to tier 10. I'm going back to my french ships! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
95 [W_H_S] SurpriseMotherTrucker Members 692 posts 21,535 battles Report post #18 Posted July 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Herr_Reitz said: bummers... i switched to Leander ;-) Let me tell you what I've seen. Loss after loss because someone doesn't like the team plan so they camp or go off on their own. "There's plenty of time to win" but red's within 60 pts of winning. Two ships - one at 12, one at 14km away. To give us some points we need a kill to halt that 60pts. Yup, fire at the full hp 12km ship instead of the 14km FUSO with a couple HUNDRED points MAX hp. Tell them to fire at FUSO and get STFU in return. Of course they die in the next ten seconds without doing anything to win. Sigh. Last match, we were leading. Our one and only dd thinks it would be a good idea to get behind the reds so he goes oh, 15km out on his own. Of course you see "da*n" in chat when he gets one-shot by the cruiser he didn't see just behind the island. Trying to cap out to stay in a match we "were" winning and what do they do... they drive out of cap to "chase" the reds. We lose. Bottom line: people are playing ranked the same way they play random and coop - without thinking about winning. Or strategy. Or the team. Team play is a foreign concept to WoWS players. Don't know what can be done - I ask every ranked season if there is any good ideas on how to change this but nobody has yet offered up a good solution. So I got back to tier 10. I'm going back to my french ships! Sounds about right. You know I was going to go into a long spiel about a game I had last night but you know what although it ticked me off it would achieve nothing. People in Ranked MUST understand YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS!!! I wish I could form a team for Ranked just so I know what I'm getting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #19 Posted July 16, 2017 Yup... a whole lot of folks wish that were possible, from what I read on the forums. What I (and maybe others) need to remember is the forumites are what, ten percent of the players? Which means ninety percent are basically out of the loop as to well, things like techniques, what each ship type ought to do in ranked, that sort of stuff. Maybe for the sake of the game they'll figure out there really is nothing wrong with a few safe harbors. And maybe they'll get clan wars working. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
95 [W_H_S] SurpriseMotherTrucker Members 692 posts 21,535 battles Report post #20 Posted July 16, 2017 I finally hit R10 last night with a horrid WR. It's pretty sad when both DD's are yelling at the BB's DON'T PUSH WE ARE WINNING and guess what? They all pushed one at a time and got deleted .... well now we are losing. Anyhow this were my stats are so far. They look really sad compared to Season 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #21 Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) Looks like you need to abandon that Hatsu for the 'buki or New Mex. ;-) Heck I'm at 92 games! Yow! Zounds! No kidding it's been trying to break through tier 10 that's killed me. Here's my stats to date: The first four ships are my best. Note the Leander in there with only a 9pt commander! I actually got a double-strike (kill) in ranked with her today! I have almost nine battles in my "bottom tier ships" that have ZERO victories. ZERO. The Cleveland is one of them. So I actually seem to be doing better using cruisers when looking at destruction ratios and victory percents but my Fuso still has the best average. Good luck man.. just set your sights on doing better than me - you got twice as many matches to get there! Edited July 17, 2017 by Herr_Reitz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
95 [W_H_S] SurpriseMotherTrucker Members 692 posts 21,535 battles Report post #22 Posted July 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, Herr_Reitz said: Looks like you need to abandon that Hatsu for the 'buki or New Mex. ;-) .You have to look at games played - Hatsu is way better overall but I had 3 game in Fubuki and New Mex so they just look better. No way I'm moving to the Dark Side and playing New Mexico!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
57 [WDWL] dwightlooi Members 163 posts 18,978 battles Report post #23 Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Made it to Rank 6 in the Hatsuharu. Started with the Fubiki but switched to the Hatsu. Stealth, agility and faster guns are more useful than three more torps. Season 7 is far less frustrating than Season 6 -- at least there is no "pay to radar your a$$" Belfast in this season. No, tricks, just try not to die early as a DD. Don't push, don't be reckless, live, spot and engage only if it is safe to do so. Spotting and smoking your team mates is key. The side that is out of DDs first usually loses because being blind makes the BBs and cruisers sitting ducks. Hatsu and Farragut are the best DDs for this session, but I try not to switch. Once you are used to the velocity and lead of the IJN guns or the USN guns, switching throws you off your game for a while. Edited July 18, 2017 by dwightlooi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 brutus_666 Members 63 posts 1,432 battles Report post #24 Posted July 23, 2017 I don't understand how people rank up in this ranked thing.......you end up in soooooo many battles where people are just horrible, dont communicate, dont work together, run and hide, dont capture objectives......whatever......you can win a few but my experience has been you have just as many bad battles that you net zero progress Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #25 Posted July 23, 2017 Well over the ranked seasons - some of which were really rank - a rule of thumb came about. It is very tough to adhere to as we really want to progress, but it goes something like this: Is it a win? Yes - play again. No - is it the first loss? Yes - play again. No - it is the second loss in a row - give it a break. Give it a break means get up, walk away, take a break, something completely different. I also like to drop the server connection after the second loss. I don't quit the game, I just drop the connection. Thing is you generally do not want to accumulate more than two straight losses in a day. Otherwise you typically start spiraling down the drain. Took me nigh on to a week to get back to 10.2 so I took a week off. May get back to it this week. However, when I look down the road, know what kind of matches I can have based on past experience, I ask myself is it really, really worth it to get to rank one? For me the answer has been nope. not worth it. Too much of everything to proceed forward without any further "safe harbors". If ranked was one person against bots for example, it might be worth pushing forward without that safety net. Having experienced the extreme swings in team skills however, it really comes down to "can I always finish top of my team?" Admittedly, I cannot. I get there time to time but not every, single, match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
