Am I the Only One Who...

[Hunter_Steel]

Enjoys playing the Kagerou more than any other ship in Tier 8? I had Mogami, I enjoyed her with the 155s (sold her to fund Izumo, will rebuy soon), I enjoyed Amagi, and I somewhat dislike Bismarck. Just doesn't have the same feel the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst had to me when I played them. Or rather, Bismarck is not as strong as people say she is. (I have her secondary spec'd with manual secondaries. She's just not as strong, I had more success in my Amagi.) But I whole heartedly enjoy playing Kagerou.

Hell, I enjoy pulling off my 1400 WTR in her

And I am regularly pulling out games that beat the 100k damage mark in her. Although the 43k average damage shows that there are just some games where I am not able to do as much damage. I don't even run smoke on this ship, I run the torp reload booster.

She's hella fun. I've really just found that I click well with her. And with 5.4km surface detect, I rarely get spotted unless I want to be spotted (This happens mostly when I use my guns late game.).

Anyone else also having fun in Kagerou?

 

~Hunter

 

[SilverPhatShips]

No I love it it's a good ship just don't have a chance to play her that much with every other ship out there to play too

[Doomlock]

I'm working on getting her, just recently got Akizuki and boy is she a blast.

[m373x]

I like the Kagero and played her a lot but after a bit over 400 games I decided to move up and try the Yugumo which proved to be more fun.

[1Sherman]

I never got into Japanese DDs. They rely too heavily on their torpedoes to be good, and it's been my experience that torpedoes rely too much on your enemies being complete idiots to get results. More often than not, your targets turn, speed up, or slow down. and avoid your torpedoes entirely and I hate that.

[Nachoo31]

Had a Witherer in my Shim last night without a kill!    Tier 9 Kagero was my favorite.

[Umikami]

My opinion runs somewhat parallel to m373x's; I liked Kagero (got her back in the day when she was tier 9) and enjoyed playing her, but then I found what I consider to be a better, more balanced ship, Yugumo. Her detection range is only 100 meters worse than Kag's (5.5 as compared to 5.4), but she has much better guns and can also sport a torp reload booster (which, by the way, I never use because of the horrendous reload penalty it imposes on a ship).

Kag is a wonderful ship, and when I first got her she was the tier 9 equivalent of one of the Kami sisters. The game has undergone a lot of changes since then, many of which have negatively affected this ship, but she still is effective as a torp killer. My issue with her is she just isn't good at much else, and I like a ship that has a few more survival traits built in.

[Hunter_Steel]

4 minutes ago, Umikami said:

My opinion runs somewhat parallel to m373x's; I liked Kagero (got her back in the day when she was tier 9) and enjoyed playing her, but then I found what I consider to be a better, more balanced ship, Yugumo. Her detection range is only 100 meters worse than Kag's (5.5 as compared to 5.4), but she has much better guns and can also sport a torp reload booster (which, by the way, I never use because of the horrendous reload penalty it imposes on a ship).

Kag is a wonderful ship, and when I first got her she was the tier 9 equivalent of one of the Kami sisters. The game has undergone a lot of changes since then, many of which have negatively affected this ship, but she still is effective as a torp killer. My issue with her is she just isn't good at much else, and I like a ship that has a few more survival traits built in.

Torp reload booster doesn't put a penalty for reloads. Your reload after one use returns to the normal 1 minute something or 2 minutes if Yuugumo suffers that after the initial quick reload. I use it and never noticed the reload penalty.

 

~Hunter

[Estimated_Prophet]

Haven't tried. Only T8 I've ever enjoyed (of the ones I do have,) is Akizuki.

[Komrade_Rylo]

IJN DDs are really good despite what people on the forums would like you to believe.

[Camo68]

Kagero at tier 8 is ok.  It is a pale imitation of it's tier 9 glory days and just doesn't measure up to the old tier 8 Fubuki.

 

I will say this though if you enjoy the Kag the Yugumo will be a most pleasant surprise!

[1nv4d3rZ1m]

1 minute ago, Fog_Battleship_NCarolina said:

IJN DDs are really good despite what people on the forums would like you to believe.

For the most part the ships are better than the forum reputations. Someone on Reddit said that IJN DDs are only considered balanced when they are OP and he is right. When people say the ships are bad what they really mean is the ships are not good enough for those players, which is common on the forums.

[STINKWEED_]

I just started playing Kagero. I have the 5.4 detection and it's becoming much more enjoyable. However, I don't do nearly as well as I do in my Kami. This is because in tier 8-10 battles I'm spotted non stop by radar that can see me behind islands and in smoke. The sky is often covered in planes too. I found the best way to play her is not to cap at the beginning of the battle. This almost always leads to being spotted and sunk.

Do you use the accelerated torps captain skill? I'm thinking 8km torps at 72 knots might close the gap faster and lead to more damage? 

[Hunter_Steel]

3 hours ago, STINKWEED_ said:

I just started playing Kagero. I have the 5.4 detection and it's becoming much more enjoyable. However, I don't do nearly as well as I do in my Kami. This is because in tier 8-10 battles I'm spotted non stop by radar that can see me behind islands and in smoke. The sky is often covered in planes too. I found the best way to play her is not to cap at the beginning of the battle. This almost always leads to being spotted and sunk.

Do you use the accelerated torps captain skill? I'm thinking 8km torps at 72 knots might close the gap faster and lead to more damage? 

No, I don;t use torp accel. It puts me within radar range. And honestly, the torps are okay at 67kts. Some my best damage games are launching torps at ships that are heading towards me, and bow in. Drop torps at 13km, even though you have the range, and then hit the torp reload consumable. By the time the torps are reloaded, the other set is almost halfway there. Drop the next set on predictable dodge paths based on the ship's angle, and then launch again. At this point, you sail away to a nearby Island or go spot some poor KMS or VMF DD that can't out-spot you at 5.4km. When your torps are reloaded, drop another set at another pair of BBs, or if you've decided to keep the other two spotted, drop on them a final round, hopefully this time they are broadside to you. And you'll pretty much get the kill, if they hadn't flooded out by then with the previous two sets that should have hit them.

Rinse and repeat, look for broadside targets and ambush them. Thats why I use the torp reload consumable.

~Hunter