281 [YYZ] The_Necromancer_015 Members 536 posts 13,790 battles Report post #1 Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) Incredible video here. Edited July 3, 2017 by DeadMeat_015 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,284 The_first_harbinger Members 3,681 posts 8,111 battles Report post #2 Posted July 3, 2017 Carriers really need planes like this to help friendly bbs to put out their fire 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
533 [CUTE] Shigure_DD Supertester, In AlfaTesters 2,048 posts 11,680 battles Report post #3 Posted July 3, 2017 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
533 [CUTE] Shigure_DD Supertester, In AlfaTesters 2,048 posts 11,680 battles Report post #4 Posted July 3, 2017 There is only 3 dc-10 fire tankers and they are all based in Cali. the first one they used 910 almost crashed doing a drop started to hit trees the crew was able to pull out and save the plane. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
281 [YYZ] The_Necromancer_015 Members 536 posts 13,790 battles Report post #5 Posted July 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Apaosha said: Yea dude a lot of fire companies use DC 10s for air drops with flame retardant and water. Also if you think thats bad google Martian Mars. He landed smooooooth as sexual intercourse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82 [GUTS] Capt_Binkley Beta Testers 471 posts 10,497 battles Report post #6 Posted July 3, 2017 Saw the Martin Mars up at Oshkosh last year at the EAA convention. They were stuck at the seaplane base after striking something in the water earlier in the day and putting a big hole in the fuselage. https://goo.gl/photos/QMRLAJsahyoeP7N87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,187 [SOUP] Chobittsu Members 9,411 posts Report post #7 Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Apaosha said: Yea dude a lot of fire companies use DC 10s for air drops with flame retardant and water. Also if you think thats bad google Martian Mars. 2 Floatplanes used to be a hobby of mine, love me some hot Mars action~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #8 Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Capt_Binkley said: Saw the Martin Mars up at Oshkosh last year at the EAA convention. They were stuck at the seaplane base after striking something in the water earlier in the day and putting a big hole in the fuselage. https://goo.gl/photos/QMRLAJsahyoeP7N87 That's the downside to water landings... I'm sure you are all aware that sometimes, the equipment fails and people die. Warning - this contains footage of a C130 loosing her wings. Spoiler Many other examples may be found of this sort of thing happening. IIRC, the big debate has always been mankind interfering with the natural burn cycle prevalent with forests, even deserts. The fires get larger - so it is said - and folks lose their lives fighting the fires, on the ground and in the air. Edited July 3, 2017 by Herr_Reitz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
533 [CUTE] Shigure_DD Supertester, In AlfaTesters 2,048 posts 11,680 battles Report post #9 Posted July 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Herr_Reitz said: That's the downside to water landings... I'm sure you are all aware that sometimes, the equipment fails and people die. Warning - this contains footage of a C130 loosing her wings. Hide contents Many other examples may be found of this sort of thing happening. IIRC, the big debate has always been mankind interfering with the natural burn cycle prevalent with forests, even deserts. The fires get larger - so it is said - and folks lose their lives fighting the fires, on the ground and in the air. And that is one reason you are starting to see a lot of jets like the dc10, md80, and bac146 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
427 [WOLF9] Dr_Wigglespank Beta Testers 1,038 posts 4,228 battles Report post #10 Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) There were a pair of those DC-10's sitting at the Albuquerque airport for quite some time (one had been there all Winter). I wonder if there's a repair facility for them there, as for the last few years there's usually been one or two parked there during the off season. Thanks for the post, too. That's some impressive footage. Edited July 3, 2017 by Hornethappy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #11 Posted July 3, 2017 9 hours ago, DeadMeat_015 said: Incredible video here. BTW - image seven was very close to being game over as they approached the end of their drop... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,000 [HINON] Carrier_Lexington [HINON] Members 4,023 posts 5,071 battles Report post #12 Posted July 3, 2017 "Technically, Jingles, that's not dive bombing..." Ahh, whatever... The way the light hit the 6th one made it look like it was dropping Agent Orange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82 [GUTS] Capt_Binkley Beta Testers 471 posts 10,497 battles Report post #13 Posted July 4, 2017 12 hours ago, Herr_Reitz said: BTW - image seven was very close to being game over as they approached the end of their drop... The skill it requires to fly something that big, that low, that slow, in those canyons is just awe inspiring. Hats off to all those men and women who can get it done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,394 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,709 posts 7,317 battles Report post #14 Posted July 5, 2017 I'm guessing the reason they use DC-10s for mail and flame retardant was because no passenger dared to set foot on one of those death traps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
82 [GUTS] Capt_Binkley Beta Testers 471 posts 10,497 battles Report post #15 Posted July 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Sventex said: I'm guessing the reason they use DC-10s for mail and flame retardant was because no passenger dared to set foot on one of those death traps. A rushed design trying to keep up with Boeing. The MD-11 was a far better design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #16 Posted July 5, 2017 Can someone explain to me why they use DC-10s, which aren't exactly designed to fly at low speeds at low altitudes, when there are a plethora of heavy lift aircraft that are designed for low speeds and low altitudes? Namely... C-130 Hercules, which already has a fire extinguishing variant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,394 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,709 posts 7,317 battles Report post #17 Posted July 5, 2017 48 minutes ago, MrDeaf said: Can someone explain to me why they use DC-10s, which aren't exactly designed to fly at low speeds at low altitudes, when there are a plethora of heavy lift aircraft that are designed for low speeds and low altitudes? Namely... C-130 Hercules, which already has a fire extinguishing variant My guess is that they had a bunch of old failed jumbo jets sitting around doing nothing and could probably put to use very cheaply. They already designed the refueling tanker KC-10, so converting a DC-10 into a water drop variety was probably cheap and easy. So why not use it? No one has bothered to use them for transit anymore since 2007. The only other use for a DC-10 I can think of is blowing them up for the sake of a movie, Air Force One 2 anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
