More US destroyers

[jenkins765]

There are only ten tiers there really should be more the US continues to make Carriers and Destroyers I think that we should add more tiers to all countries but espically US

 

[StableGenius]

Patience... The Royal Navy Battleships are first :)

We already have a full US and Japanese tech tree, now the other countries will get love from WG :)

[Doomlock]

They will come. Be patient.

[FayFay731]

1 hour ago, jenkins765 said:

more tiers

Are you suggesting past T10?

Spoiler

This is what I was thinking of.

 

[SireneRacker]

That would make the grind through the US ships very boring since in most cases there isn't much difference between two classes. Grinding through 30 different ships is not really something that I would describe as an enjoyable grind.

 

What they could do however is what they did with the IJN Destroyers and make sub-branches. For example one branch of US DDs gets the AA favor (maybe a permanent Defensive Fire alongside Speed Boost and Smoke) while the other gets the knife-fighter flavor with a new Consumable that enhances said abilities (just a rough idea: Close Quarters Combat Consumbale, active for 60 seconds, decreases the rudder shift by 30% and the reload by 10%).

[Doomlock]

32 minutes ago, SireneRacker said:

That would make the grind through the US ships very boring since in most cases there isn't much difference between two classes. Grinding through 30 different ships is not really something that I would describe as an enjoyable grind.

 

There are USN DD leaders too. Armed with 4 dual 5"/38s, and wing torpedo launchers.

[Umikami]

10 minutes ago, Doomlock said:

 

There are USN DD leaders too. Armed with 4 dual 5"/38s, and wing torpedo launchers.

good luck getting those into the game past Russian bias, LOL!

[SireneRacker]

11 minutes ago, Doomlock said:

There are USN DD leaders too. Armed with 4 dual 5"/38s, and wing torpedo launchers.

 

Don't know what to do with them, the US had far too many classes of DDs to give them all a purpose in this game. I am already happy with my concept of the AA/CQC-line

 

[Slimeball91]

Its seems heavily biassed to have the Soviet DDs get a split in the line ahead of the US.  Oh well.

 

2 hours ago, SireneRacker said:

Don't know what to do with them, the US had far too many classes of DDs to give them all a purpose in this game. I am already happy with my concept of the AA/CQC-line

That was sort of what the Kidd was and it got mothballed.  I too like the idea but the Kidd was a very poor attempt.  I'd like to see something like a "C hull" version of the Sims.  Good guns, speed, maneuverability, but better AA, it return it gets Sims' like short range torps or the long range sea mines.  Although with radar in the game and WG considering giving RN BBs radar, I can't see a gunboat DD being all that viable.  

[tekteam26]

On 7/2/2017 at 9:53 AM, Doomlock said:

 

There are USN DD leaders too. Armed with 4 dual 5"/38s, and wing torpedo launchers.

I definitely want to see the Somers class destroyer leaders come out. They would have twelve centerline torpedo tubes. The only question is whether or not they get Farragut torpedoes (6.4 km range) or Mahan torpedoes (9.2 km range).

[Formerly_Wu]

My ideal would be to have the DL line split at tier 7.

 

Tier 7: Porter (Effectively a Farragut with twin 5"/38s in single purpose mounts)

Tier 8: Somers (Upgraded Porter with a potential twelve torpedo broadside)

Tier 9: Allen M. Sumner (effectively a shorter Gearing)

Tier 10: Move the Gearing here from the main line.

 

I'd also include the Bagley class as a premium, with her selling point being her sixteen torpedo tubes.

 

That covers all of the WW2 USN destroyer classes that aren't just machinery or other minor differences. Benham/Bagley/Gridley are all very closely related, as are Benson/Gleaves/Livermore.

[CaptCombustion]

On 7/2/2017 at 0:57 PM, Slimeball91 said:

Its seems heavily biassed to have the Soviet DDs get a split in the line ahead of the US.  Oh well.

 

That was sort of what the Kidd was and it got mothballed.  I too like the idea but the Kidd was a very poor attempt.  I'd like to see something like a "C hull" version of the Sims.  Good guns, speed, maneuverability, but better AA, it return it gets Sims' like short range torps or the long range sea mines.  Although with radar in the game and WG considering giving RN BBs radar, I can't see a gunboat DD being all that viable.  

 

The Kidd premium has been shelved?

[poeticmotion]

On 7/2/2017 at 8:09 AM, jenkins765 said:

There are only ten tiers there really should be more the US continues to make Carriers and Destroyers I think that we should add more tiers to all countries but espically US

 

 

T1-10 is fine. Most countries and most lines don't have strong candidates to fill out more than the current t1-10 (2-10 for DD, 3-10 for BB, 4-10 for CV) slots in the era covered by this game (if you go much past the Korean War, navies begin to switch from guns to guided missiles, which won't fit into the game's play dynamic.) Even those that do don't have enough differentiation between those lines to make it fun grinding up the line...can you imagine having to grind through every single USN standard-type BB when they only made minor incremental changes between classes? 

The USN DD line may get a second subline like a couple people suggested but as it is the USN DD line does a great job with progression. Yes, there are types that aren't included, but they wouldn't be very different from the ships on the tech tree and therefore wouldn't provide necessary progression up the line.

[Slimeball91]

2 hours ago, CaptCombustion said:

 

The Kidd premium has been shelved?

Here's a link to the EU WoWs forum where a WG staff member said the "Kidd is in mothballs now, you can expect previews when her release is nearer."  We don't know exactly what that means, a short delay, long delay or dead in the water.

[CaptCombustion]

Link no workie but thanks for the info.

[Slimeball91]

2 hours ago, CaptCombustion said:

Link no workie but thanks for the info.

Try this.

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/82324-2017-taking-stock-at-half-time/#comment-1894177

[Battlecruiser_Guam]

If they ever make a sub branch with pure gunboat style DDs they could have the Somers class as a teir 8:

 

 

and the Mitscher class at teir 10

 

[Rolkatsuki]

unfortunately tier 10 is the max tier, through Im aware that WG left out many US DD classes enough to make a second line which I hope for and not end up as multiple premiums.

[zubalkabir]

tekteam26 wrote:  "I definitely want to see the Somers class destroyer leaders come out. They would have twelve centerline torpedo tubes. The only question is whether or not they get Farragut torpedoes (6.4 km range) or Mahan torpedoes (9.2 km range). "

What I'd really like is the ability to choose between a faster setting with a shorter range, or a slower setting with a longer range, that you could choose at the point of launch.  I'm kind of curious why WG didn't do this, since I understand that's the way torpedoes actually worked.

[Aetreus]

On 7/20/2017 at 2:07 PM, zubalkabir said:

tekteam26 wrote:  "I definitely want to see the Somers class destroyer leaders come out. They would have twelve centerline torpedo tubes. The only question is whether or not they get Farragut torpedoes (6.4 km range) or Mahan torpedoes (9.2 km range). "

What I'd really like is the ability to choose between a faster setting with a shorter range, or a slower setting with a longer range, that you could choose at the point of launch.  I'm kind of curious why WG didn't do this, since I understand that's the way torpedoes actually worked.

Because every destroyer starting around tier IV would have 12-15km settings available to them, and that would cause endless complaints.

[Sabot_100]

Does seem like a problem to place a Porter or Somers into the current tiers. Even if they were added as premiums. Wouldn't a T7 Porter and a T8 Somers completely outclass Sims/Mahan or a Benson unless they really nerf the guns and torps? How do you "progress" from a 8-gun to a 5 gun when the guns are pretty much the same? Worse, they might outclass the Lenningrad/Minsk and Kiev.

[CGN_41]

I agree with the split line with the Porter, Somers, A.M. Sumner, and possibly the Mitscher and Forrest Sherman classes or a line of Destroyer Escort classes, slower than DD's and they have a wider range of guns and torpedoes onboard