Train Torp Accelleration? But then my captains can't run my IJN Premium DD's

[x2_Weekends]

I play a lot of Tier VI DD's and have become jaded with WoWS since the great IJN torp nerf. I stick to Tiers V to VII because it suits my skills. But the 1.5km detection ranges of IJN torps (greater than any other nation) makes it difficult to be effective for my team. I play a lot less WoWS now.

 

I love the Fubuki, and sort of love the Hatsuharu, and I have contemplated retraining my captains in them to TA to make the torps more effective. This seems to be my only course of action since WG will not lower the IJN torp detection to nominal levels.  We are talking 0.2km. But once I do, they cannot run my Fujin nor my Kamikaze R, let alone the Tachibana.

 

Personally I find it pretty crappy of WG to force players into using a captain skill just to get a 10% hit rate with the IJN torps but at the cost of making the captains no longer capable of piloting your Premium IJN DD's. Pretty low & insulting in my book (am I expected to have 3-4 IJN DD captains? Captains exclusively housed on premiums?)

 

Question: Before I spend the Doubloons is it worth it? Any IJN Captains compare stats before and after? 

 

I played Mutsuki when it was a Tier VI with Torp Acceleration and I did well with it. So, I have been thinking of returning to that to see if it removes my jadedness, even at the cost of permanently mothballing my Fujin and Kamikaze R.

[STINKWEED_]

I don't think you have a choice. Train a new captain. I personally find the Kami and Fujin much better DDs than the IJN tier 6s or 7s.

One thing to keep in mind, the Kagero with the right equipment setup will be as stealthy as the tier 5s (5.4km detection). You can certainly use your Kami or Fujin captain on her so it wouldn't make sense to mess with the skills just yet. 

 

 

[Ace_04]

19 minutes ago, STINKWEED_ said:

I don't think you have a choice. Train a new captain. I personally find the Kami and Fujin much better DDs than the IJN tier 6s or 7s.

One thing to keep in mind, the Kagero with the right equipment setup will be as stealthy as the tier 5s (5.4km detection). You can certainly use your Kami or Fujin captain on her so it wouldn't make sense to mess with the skills just yet. 

 

 

 

Kagero with TA and the torp reload module is just giggles.  Especially with 5.4km detection range.....who needs smoke?

[Nachoo31]

I have 2 IJN 19 point DD captains.  I did run torp acceleration in the Shim.  But I changed out of it.

[STINKWEED_]

1 minute ago, Ace_04 said:

 

Kagero with TA and the torp reload module is just giggles.  Especially with 5.4km detection range.....who needs smoke?

I agree. I retrained my captain tiers 6 to Kagero but still working on enough points to run TA on it. I still think my Kami is a better DD for it's tier. I average 100k damage with the Kami and only around 40-50k with Kagero as it seems to get spotted by radar and planes 8/10 times

[Nachoo31]

1 minute ago, STINKWEED_ said:

I agree. I retrained my captain tiers 6 to Kagero but still working on enough points to run TA on it. I still think my Kami is a better DD for it's tier. I average 100k damage with the Kami and only around 40-50k with Kagero as it seems to get spotted by radar and planes 8/10 times

Tier 5 has been covered with CVs the last couple of nights.  Making DD play a bit more challenging and fun.

[MrDeaf]

The T6 and T7 torp selection for IJN blows, that's for sure.

[alexf24]

I only run TA in Gearing. All my IJN DDs (and I am primarily a DD player) do not have it.

I experimented some time ago with TA in Yugumo and Shimakaze but removed it (this is before their 12km torps were out, and I now use those).

IJN DDs atT5-T6 with 7 to 10 km torpedoes do not take well to TA IMO.

[chewonit]

TA doesn't really buy that much.

[Jakajan]

Buy Harekaze as a premium that you can use your torp acceleration skill on? once she comes out of course.

I imagine 3x1 US guns and a torpedo boat configuration could work fine.

[Umikami]

22 hours ago, STINKWEED_ said:

I don't think you have a choice. Train a new captain. I personally find the Kami and Fujin much better DDs than the IJN tier 6s or 7s.

One thing to keep in mind, the Kagero with the right equipment setup will be as stealthy as the tier 5s (5.4km detection). You can certainly use your Kami or Fujin captain on her so it wouldn't make sense to mess with the skills just yet. 

 

 

This sucks, but currently it is your best option.

[x2_Weekends]

So...at the time of this post I initially trained my Fubuki Captain in TA.  Then, I switched it back.  I have played several battles since in both Fubuki and Hatsuharu.  Other than 1 epic game in the Hatsuharu, and about 2 good/solid games in the Fubuki, everything else has been miserable.  At one point I had 1 win and 6 losses.  My lone win came in Sims.  My six losses were Fubuki and Hatsuharu.  

 

It really has become a most futile exercise in frustration to play Tier VI IJN DD's.  Even trying to factor in the slow speed of the torps, and aiming on the front-half of the aiming indicator (depending on enemy ship direction), the torps are still laughably easy to spot and dodge.  

 

I don't see how lowering the IJN mid-tier torp detection to 1.3km would harm the balance of the game that much.  They have already done so much to directly or indirectly nerf Destroyers since Beta that it's difficult to keep track of it all. I'm not a great player but I think I'm decent.  But Tier VI IJN DD's are a struggle and feel more like work, like I'm constantly fighting the IJN DD's.    

[x2_Weekends]

Edit: these new freaking forums...can't even post correctly anymore, bad enough I have to constantly log in over and over and over and over.

 

No wonder IJN DD's are so screwed if you can't even get a forum layout correctly.  What is this? 1999?  

[Crucis]

I agree that TA is a frustrating skill to use on IJN DD captains if you intend to use them in the Kamikaze or Fujin, in addition to their regular ship.  I don't have TA on my Shimekaze captain, because I also put him in my KamikazeR and Shinonome regularly.  And those DD's give up too much torp range if they have to use a TA trained captain. 

 

All in all, the TA skill only really seems to be used on DD's whose torpedoes have enough range that they can afford to lose 20% of that range and still have plenty of extra range above their concealment range.  This is true for the Gearing and its 16 km torps, and the Shimmy and its 12 km (and 20 km) torps, for example.  But its not true for the Kamikaze/Fujin and their 7 km torps, or the Shinonome and its 8 km torps.

 

It really stinks because I don't want to train up another captain for my Kami and Shino, because that's how I farm Elite Commander XP.  Sigh.

 

 

 

[chewonit]

TA in practice doesn't really help that much. Especially if the torp speed is already at or higher than 60-some kt. The penalty on range is too big to justify the less than 8% speed increase.

 

But TA on Kamikaze with speed flag and speed boost upgrade can be stupidly fun. You can rush all over the places and dump almost unavoidable torp at close range. The BB can't even train their guns fast enough on you.

 

But you die pretty much always after 2 rushes. :)