6,840 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,261 posts 35,694 battles Report post #1 Posted June 28, 2017 Anyone else getting hammered in Raptor? Saw youtube wid where they won, so I didn't go in completely cold; but still; five games; five losses. (Budyonny.) Had a another player say they five-stared it earlier; I flat out said I didn't believe him. I having flashbacks to the OP swarming bots from Halloween mode. Hyper-accurate bots; starting fires like a Zippo with first shots... There doesn't need to be a 'hard' mode, because it's already there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,023 [HINON] Fog_Repair_Ship_Akashi Alpha Tester 3,666 posts 8,087 battles Report post #2 Posted June 28, 2017 Raptor rescue was always the hardest mission on the server. Unless you all work together and let those auxiliaries resupply Raptor you will lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,578 Admiral_Thrawn_1 Members 12,690 posts 14,320 battles Report post #3 Posted June 28, 2017 I have 4 stars in that one already, seems to pretty much require having a good CV player on your team to burn all those planes out of the sky, spot long range enemy, and kill enemy CVs. Last time I had to shoot down 49 planes and my team picked up a few more and I had to take out the enemy CVs as well as deal with the kuma out there. This was of course right after I assisted with the 1st group of enemy ships that start out near your spawn. Over all though Operations have been easy enough except for the very 1st one where you had to stop a lot of ships from entering and deal with tier 8 ships and final CV was quite powerful. But ever since then the Operations have been easily completed with out doing too many battles once you figure out what is going on and what is needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #4 Posted June 28, 2017 Hm. Would this be a mission where I'd be better-suited taking 3-1-1 Ryujo instead of 1-2-2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71 Admiral_Cirno Members 111 posts 8,251 battles Report post #5 Posted June 28, 2017 Hopefully it's lie every other Operation, the first few times everyone fails and then ... synergy hopefully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 [SIM] LadyJess Members 1,746 posts Report post #6 Posted June 28, 2017 Have not had a chance to try this new one but, it sounds like an excellent challenge to me. Bring it you BOTS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
38 Peacemaker100 Members 349 posts 5,412 battles Report post #7 Posted June 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Destroyer_Kiyoshimo said: Hm. Would this be a mission where I'd be better-suited taking 3-1-1 Ryujo instead of 1-2-2? Lol I might take 311 too, if only to practice for ranked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,840 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,261 posts 35,694 battles Report post #8 Posted June 28, 2017 Seven games, seven losses. This is basically nothing more than a joke at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
583 QuantumEntropy Beta Testers 4,007 posts 14,539 battles Report post #9 Posted June 28, 2017 Got 5 stars in my second try and then 5 stars with all ships what i will gonna use for ranked , that;s with randoms. It's easy if you focus on the objectives , send someone to kill the cv (a aa bote) in east then a bb that stands in front of the cv to tank dmg , other ships just focus fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
746 [LEAK] amade Beta Testers 1,686 posts 209 battles Report post #10 Posted June 28, 2017 You need a CV in this scenario, period. Mostly to spot (and if possible, kill) the sneaky DDs well before they get close enough to launch torps. I would recommend either Indy 111 (I five starred with this) or Ryujo 122 You can basically own the air with only 1 fighter squadron, using Fighter heavy loadout on either CVs is a waste. Better to have torps to kill them DDs and sink the two CVs early. Indy 012 is doable too, but your team mates better be a load of Clevelands who have a clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #11 Posted June 28, 2017 After running Operation Raptor a few times-- No. 1-2-2 is perfectly fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
193 [5D2] Sillypuddi Beta Testers 354 posts 10,430 battles Report post #12 Posted June 28, 2017 Bring Cleveland to every Operation...5 stars... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,105 battles Report post #13 Posted June 28, 2017 This game earned 3 playes well... hard but doable 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,201 GhostSwordsman Members 6,603 posts 8,650 battles Report post #14 Posted June 28, 2017 Yeah, this operation seems to have been meant for USN ships, aside from the CV. You're likely better off having a Ryujo than an Independence, solely for the flexibility Ryujo possesses over Independence. You also absolutely need USN DDs, since they have the longest smoke deploy and up time, and can mount DFAA on their optional C hulls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 Mikhaill Beta Testers 12 posts 4,740 battles Report post #15 Posted June 28, 2017 Went into it cold first try 5 stars. we had 2 bb a cv rest crusiers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,105 battles Report post #16 Posted June 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, GhostSwordsman said: Yeah, this operation seems to have been meant for USN ships, aside from the CV. You're likely better off having a Ryujo than an Independence, solely for the flexibility Ryujo possesses over Independence. You also absolutely need USN DDs, since they have the longest smoke deploy and up time, and can mount DFAA on their optional C hulls. I found it easier with the Indipendence. You have so many DD from all sides, they are easier to kill with the USN DB. And your fighters can stay up the complete match with all the ammo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
21 anonym_CSdztHGM3fXS Members 657 posts Report post #17 Posted June 28, 2017 depends on good your carryer, carrier is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,850 [D-DAY] _WaveRider_ Members 7,616 posts Report post #18 Posted June 28, 2017 Only mission I use my Farragut for. Tried it once and got the 4 stars (missed the CV down the bottom). I found this mission the easiest as there seemed to be a time for repair after we rescued the CV. Got the ugliest looking captain as a reward though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,840 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,261 posts 35,694 battles Report post #19 Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Destroyer_WolfgangZenker said: It's easy if you focus on the objectives , send someone to kill the cv (a aa bote) in east then a bb that stands in front of the cv to tank dmg , other ships just focus fire. I've tried to do so (in my Budyonny,) three times, (the last three games played; after I finally started realizing what needed to be done. Every single time the Raptor has died behind me. One of those games just eneded suddenly. The only thing I can suppose is something loltorped or detonated the Raptor somehow. 1 hour ago, amade said: You need a CV in this scenario, period. Mostly to spot (and if possible, kill) the sneaky DDs well before they get close enough to launch torps. Horray for SkyCancer/CV hate/running CVs being a total (rude word.) Players who can run a CV the way it's going to be needed in this scenario are so few and far between it's pathetic. Admittedly, I've already been thinking about how to prioritize targets woith my Ryujo, (30 games, 23 victories with Ryujo in Killer Whale... "Um... we need to leave now..." Watches as team runs out to fight bots, or does other stupid things, leaving my Ryujo alone at the end...) 22 minutes ago, Erebthoron said: I found it easier with the Indipendence. You have so many DD from all sides, they are easier to kill with the USN DB. And your fighters can stay up the complete match with all the ammo. That would be fine; except all I ever get using dive-bombers against destroyers, even with manual drops, is misses or module damage. If cruisers and destroyers can't kill destroyers, then such a team has other problems a good CV driver won't be able to solve. Edited June 28, 2017 by Estimated_Prophet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
53 [SOL-B] Cooper_Capt Members 217 posts 7,876 battles Report post #20 Posted June 28, 2017 Completed in my Nicholas. It is a bit difficult. 2BBs max. Better to have cruisers. OP Maybe Budyonny is not the best ship. LaGalissoniere has great AA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,017 battles Report post #21 Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Played it once (Cleveland). Got 4 stars. The team had a Texas, Dunk, and Independence. They all did well. A bot DD rammed me and left me with low HP, so the Aoba finished me. Did 71k damage. Could have done better. Edited June 28, 2017 by alexf24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,840 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,261 posts 35,694 battles Report post #22 Posted June 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Cooper_Capt said: OP Maybe Budyonny is not the best ship. Took my Ryujo driver from 16 points to 19 points with modified cxp and 10 games of Aegis, and 30 games of Killer Whale. I don't have a 19 point RU driver yet, so that's why I've been using Budy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #23 Posted June 28, 2017 The hardest part is getting your team to focus down the enemy destroyers. People have been letting AI MInekazes get within 2km of the convoy. FFS people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
273 [AAYC] Siegewolf Beta Testers 791 posts 18,150 battles Report post #24 Posted June 28, 2017 Looking forward to the new mission tonight (if I get time). Good they are up for a week. Just wish I could farm them for experience like some have. Just don't have a lot of play time (That whole got to pay rent and feed kids thing :)) Looks like the Cleveland would be a good goto boat for the mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
75 Suzunami Beta Testers 648 posts 15,736 battles Report post #25 Posted June 28, 2017 This one is hilarious because all bots have HP perk. I must be lucky, 5 matches, 4 wins(2x5 stars, 1x4 stars, 1x3 stars). 5 stars in Ryujo and Cleveland. Once you know where the bots are going to spawn you can just farm them a bit. In one of the game, I moved to my Cleveland towards bot CV spawn position and the bot just sent 16 planes into my AA without doing any damage (and I killed a dd and a CL escorting that CV in the meantime). In another one, I just sent my planes preemptively and killed a bot CV right where it spawned. But you have to know, regardless which ship you play, you won't be able to complete all the tasks on your own. Team work is very important, even if you don't type in chat, watch the mini map closely and try to help your team as much as you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
