642 [-K--] iHaveNoIntelligence Members 1,817 posts 9,035 battles Report post #1 Posted June 28, 2017 Spoiler Tier 8 German premium CV Graf Zeppelin at her finest - Source: WoWS FB Asia In case you don't know she has 230 load out with 72 hangar (Distribution: 25-47) capacity. Her Torpedoes arms in 3 s which is 0,5 s faster than other nations and her torpedo bomber has a unique drop pattern. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
332 hoom Beta Testers 2,580 posts 4,750 battles Report post #2 Posted June 28, 2017 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #3 Posted June 28, 2017 More pictures for me to grab! Seriously though, does anyone else think she looks futuristic-y from that waterline bow image? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,527 [SALVO] Crucis Members 28,143 posts 42,560 battles Report post #4 Posted June 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Doomlock said: More pictures for me to grab! Seriously though, does anyone else think she looks futuristic-y from that waterline bow image? Not really. Modern/futuristic CV's have closed bows, like modern US CV's. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,005 [FML] UltimateNewbie Members 4,323 posts 16,699 battles Report post #5 Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, hoom said: QFT. Edit: Also this, totally stolen from the interwebs. Edited June 28, 2017 by UltimateNewbie 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [SCCC] Peregrinas Members 3,181 posts 17,515 battles Report post #6 Posted June 28, 2017 This is going to be an insta-buy for me. Though I thought German CVs wouldn't have any torp bombers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,105 battles Report post #7 Posted June 28, 2017 And when I posted the same info from SEAgroup yesterday it got deleted by a mod *sigh* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #8 Posted June 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Peregrinas said: This is going to be an insta-buy for me. Though I thought German CVs wouldn't have any torp bombers. Germany had aerial torpedoes, but they were usually equipped on twin engine land based bombers. There is some blurb about Fw190 being able to equip them as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
361 [YARRR] ElAurens Members 735 posts 5,955 battles Report post #9 Posted June 28, 2017 T8? The real thing was utterly obsolete before it was even finished, which of course it never was. Her air complement would have been laughable as the Bf 109T was just a converted land plane, like every other aircraft that would have been assigned to her. She should be a T6 at best. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,728 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,538 posts 12,810 battles Report post #10 Posted June 28, 2017 3TB will be completely OP. I hope that WG revisits that and fixes what was already proven to be a horrible idea. it was nerfed from many IJN CV previously for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [SCCC] Peregrinas Members 3,181 posts 17,515 battles Report post #11 Posted June 28, 2017 Looks like the preliminary squadron sizes are 5 torp bombers and 4 fighters per squadron based on the 2/3/0 loadout described in the OP. 2 minutes ago, MrDeaf said: Germany had aerial torpedoes, but they were usually equipped on twin engine land based bombers. There is some blurb about Fw190 being able to equip them as well. Awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
143 HellaCopterRescue Privateers 511 posts 4,629 battles Report post #12 Posted June 28, 2017 what a beut me right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
642 [-K--] iHaveNoIntelligence Members 1,817 posts 9,035 battles Report post #13 Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, crzyhawk said: 3TB will be completely OP. I hope that WG revisits that and fixes what was already proven to be a horrible idea. it was nerfed from many IJN CV previously for a reason. We don't know what drop pattern she has. If she is gonna have crappy drop pattern like enterprise then having even 5 TBs wouldn't help 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #14 Posted June 28, 2017 What a beautiful carrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [SCCC] Peregrinas Members 3,181 posts 17,515 battles Report post #15 Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I wonder if manual secondaries will be a viable skill 15 minutes ago, HellaCopterRescue said: what a beut me right now This is me as well. GZ is probably the one ship in this game that's got me the most hyped! I already own every single German ship in the game and GZ is a must-have. Edited June 28, 2017 by Peregrinas 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
139 cmdr_raccoon Members 821 posts Report post #16 Posted June 28, 2017 Drop pattern of TB aside, any info on the stats of the planes she carries, especially in comparison to existing CV of same tiers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
642 [-K--] iHaveNoIntelligence Members 1,817 posts 9,035 battles Report post #17 Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, cmdr_raccoon said: Drop pattern of TB aside, any info on the stats of the planes she carries, especially in comparison to existing CV of same tiers? https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/6jsomr/graf_zeppelin_initial_stats_sea_group/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=WorldOfWarships 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,447 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,823 posts 26,900 battles Report post #18 Posted June 28, 2017 Beautiful model, nice camouflage too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
139 cmdr_raccoon Members 821 posts Report post #19 Posted June 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Treediagram said: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/6jsomr/graf_zeppelin_initial_stats_sea_group/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=WorldOfWarships nice. thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13 [SFOR] SniperAurora Beta Testers 113 posts 10,212 battles Report post #20 Posted June 28, 2017 Ma! I want that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,324 [NERO] TTK_Aegis Members 3,630 posts Report post #21 Posted June 28, 2017 Dang that's a pretty ship... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
682 [SCRAP] ArmouredCarriers Beta Testers 1,690 posts 5,592 battles Report post #22 Posted June 28, 2017 Tier 8 sounds a bit 'off' Her design was based on German tours of HMS Glorious and Corageous... both 1920s conversions. Thus the casemate guns and open bow in a hull that would have been post 1940! And Graf Zeppelin had a total air group of 42 (if using Fieseler torpedo-bomber biplanes), not 72. Or do Wargaming think this ship was a TARDIS? It is possible/probable that this could have been boosted by 15-20, as Germany - like the UK - didn't count deck parks. Other than that quibble (there is no way she should be higher tiered than, say, HMS Illustrious or Ark Royal - or even Corageous or Glorious), I'm glad she's here. Looking forward to hearing those Stuka's scream! (As they swoop in low to deliver a torpedo...) Aaaaand it would take some serious vodka inhalation to regard a 109T or Ju97C as equivalent to other T8 aircraft... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #23 Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Erebthoron said: And when I posted the same info from SEAgroup yesterday it got deleted by a mod *sigh* That's because it hadn't official been announced yet, therefor unreleased content. It was officially announced today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #24 Posted June 28, 2017 If I didn't absolutely suck at high tier CV play this would be a VERY exciting ship..I must say I was expecting her to be maybe a t6 not a t8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
861 Sakuzhi Beta Testers 7,130 posts 7,331 battles Report post #25 Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, HMS_Formidable said: Aaaaand it would take some serious vodka inhalation to regard a 109T or Ju97C as equivalent to other T8 aircraft... They are more like..Tier 5 Aircraft. Maybe That'll be it's gimmick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites