1 [CUTE] Submarine_Ro_500 Members 23 posts 10,143 battles Report post #1 Posted June 18, 2017 Sigh, I was playing on my Gnevny on tier VIII battle, looking for a chance to cap and do damage, after a teammate killed a foe DD at A, I thought: so let's cap, then I watched that there was an enemy Arizona on fire, so let's set some fires on him to do some damage, so to cap and do damage I popped smoke and started to attack... Then, a TK North Carolina just nuked me.... I was really confused, he told me: DDs are not to use their smoke to themselves. Wait... what?! Does is wrong to pop smoke to capture and do some damage? This is a soviet DD, the only way to do damage is with my guns or a yolo charge, I know that I must scout, but I was not the only DD there! This guy killed me due that according with him, I don't know how to play DDs, he told me that my job is to smoke BBs or teammates, go to spot, attack with torps and destroy DDs.... I really find that this guy definitely hadn't played a soviet DD if he thinks that I can go to torp BBs, yes I can ambush but at that moment all I could do was or spot while cap or pop smoke, do some damage and cap. Even if he didn't agree with my decision, that's not a excuse to TK! Seriously, not only killed me also apparently I suck at DDs due to my play style.... just... I really have a lot of forbearance.... but that was just so much, to add pain after battle stadistics get him on top 5 players at that match and I was second worst player due to I was only able to do 8k damage and he killed me before I capped A. God, I'm not a bad DD player.... I know that I should smoke friendly BBs that are tanking but I just wanted to do some damage and cap... and I must pay for a guy that is a jerk and believes what I must do?! WG.... please just remove friendly damage... people can TK for stupid reasons occasionally without lose nothing. Also as a victim I seriously don't feel like that guy is paying for that. Reply of the incident (4 mins vid) (sorry for my potato computer): https://youtu.be/f57PtXvCgYo Pictures about post-battle stadistics (ignore my mods please)... Team score: https://puu.sh/wnjB3/ae33cd9931.png Credits and XP (Apparently I didn't receive credits for TK): https://puu.sh/wnjBO/e870964e68.png 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
440 More_Witches Members 1,507 posts 1,138 battles Report post #2 Posted June 18, 2017 I'd remove the link to the vid to avoid possible name and shame penalties and send the link to someone with WG Support instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [CUTE] Submarine_Ro_500 Members 23 posts 10,143 battles Report post #3 Posted June 18, 2017 Eh?! Send it to WG support instead, does this is that serious?!, ok, so remove the link ok.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 attackcamel Beta Testers 71 posts 3,995 battles Report post #4 Posted June 18, 2017 Spotting is great when you can do it, you can't get any silver or XP for doing it though. You were causing damage, and doing a big part of a DDs work. Too bad it happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #5 Posted June 18, 2017 Um what? Does that guy even DD? Smoke is a very useful tool, but it is up to the user to choose how to use it. I have used my smoke both offensively and defensively. For teammates and myself. It all depends on the situation. If I am asked sure I'll try to, especially for division mates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
440 More_Witches Members 1,507 posts 1,138 battles Report post #6 Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Narumi498 said: Eh?! Send it to WG support instead, does this is that serious?!, ok, so remove the link ok.... If you send it to WG Support they might look into the guy's records and if he's had a habit of doing it before he might get permabanned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,431 [NO2BB] m373x Members 3,885 posts 24,515 battles Report post #7 Posted June 18, 2017 So you had one bad experience and now you want the game to change for you. Nope, not going to happen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,912 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 7,450 posts 23,087 battles Report post #8 Posted June 18, 2017 Looks like he TK'd two. Interesting that the reflected damage didn't kick in on the second TK, Don't worry. Just keep playing. These events don't happen very often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
442 [K0] Flashtirade Members 1,758 posts 10,316 battles Report post #9 Posted June 18, 2017 No way. Sure it might suck to get killed because you rustled some poor snowflake's jimmies, but keeping team damage in is better for gameplay in general. Just report him correctly and hopefully he will be taken care of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #10 Posted June 18, 2017 No, please don't remove friendly damage. It would absolutely change this game for the worst, deciding to take the shot or not, having to ensure your torps are not going to hit an ally are part of the game and add a element of strategy/decision making. Weighing the risk vs cost of a close shot. Without team damage then players with torps could fire from the second row or into a duel between BBs. Sure there are a few asshats like you described, but they are a minority. Just screen cap and report it with a ticket. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [CUTE] Submarine_Ro_500 Members 23 posts 10,143 battles Report post #11 Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, m373x said: So you had one bad experience and now you want the game to change for you. Nope, not going to happen. No that.... just wanting to share this.... weekend stuff I guess and discuss about it, I know that WG barely hear to people complains (that are not from BBabies. Edited June 18, 2017 by Narumi498 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,431 [NO2BB] m373x Members 3,885 posts 24,515 battles Report post #12 Posted June 18, 2017 Just now, Narumi498 said: No that.... just wanting to share this.... weekend stuff I guess and discuss about it, I know that WG barely hear to paople complains (that are not from BBabies. You said "please remove friendly damage" twice, once in the title and once in the post. Anyone with common sense will assume that you want friendly damage removed, no need to back off of it now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [CUTE] Submarine_Ro_500 Members 23 posts 10,143 battles Report post #13 Posted June 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Soshi_Sone said: Looks like he TK'd two. Interesting that the reflected damage didn't kick in on the second TK, Don't worry. Just keep playing. These events don't happen very often. Yeah, you are right, I have like 4k battles and first time this happens... although I remenber a guy that killed an ally CV just for fun so months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,382 [GRIT] Lensar Members 3,254 posts 11,911 battles Report post #14 Posted June 18, 2017 I get TKed by friendly torps once every 10 or so battles. It sucks, but it's part of the game. Removing it would pretty much ruin any and all immersion and willing suspension of disbelief that Warships provides. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
267 [KOOKS] Krautjaeger [KOOKS] Modder 827 posts 5,281 battles Report post #15 Posted June 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, Narumi498 said: Then, a TK North Carolina just nuked me.... I was really confused, he told me: DDs are not to use their smoke to themselves. This guy killed me due that according with him, I don't know how to play DDs, he told me that my job is to smoke BBs or teammates, go to spot, attack with torps and destroy DDs.... I really find that this guy definitely hadn't played a soviet DD if he thinks that I can go to torp BBs, yes I can ambush but at that moment all I could do was or spot while cap or pop smoke, do some damage and cap. Even if he didn't agree with my decision, that's not a excuse to TK! Some BB-players, after getting supporting smoke, start to get spoiled and demand it. Even that you double-back from what you are doing to pop smoke on them even if your tactical choice is sound and you're 15 klicks out. I've had a few of those as well, if they tk me I may report them or mostly I just talk them down and say lets check the score on the battle-results and see who contributed more to the fight. More often than not these individuals are bottom 3 of the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [CUTE] Submarine_Ro_500 Members 23 posts 10,143 battles Report post #16 Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, m373x said: You said "please remove friendly damage" twice, once in the title and once in the post. Anyone with common sense will assume that you want friendly damage removed, no need to back off of it now. Discuss it, because I know that nothing is going to chance with a simple forum topic... but my point is that I would like if WG removes friendly damage in a way to avoid TK for keep doing stuff like this? I don't know if I'm explaining it well. Edited June 18, 2017 by Narumi498 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [CUTE] Submarine_Ro_500 Members 23 posts 10,143 battles Report post #17 Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Krautjaeger said: Some BB-players, after getting supporting smoke, start to get spoiled and demand it. Even that you double-back from what you are doing to pop smoke on them even if your tactical choice is sound and you're 15 klicks out. I've had a few of those as well, if they tk me I may report them or mostly I just talk them down and say lets check the score on the battle-results and see who contributed more to the fight. More often than not these individuals are bottom 3 of the team. Sadly he was top 5 player even when he had -2 kills... I barely did 8k damage and didn't cap on time, so he did more than me... (I disagree with this a lot) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #18 Posted June 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lensar said: I get TKed by friendly torps once every 10 or so battles. It sucks, but it's part of the game. Removing it would pretty much ruin any and all immersion and willing suspension of disbelief that Warships provides. Agreed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,431 [NO2BB] m373x Members 3,885 posts 24,515 battles Report post #19 Posted June 18, 2017 Just now, Narumi498 said: Discuss it, because I know that nothing is going to chance with a simple forum topic... but my point is that I would like if WG removes friendly damage in a way to avoid TK for keep doing stuff like this? I donñt know if I'm explaining it well. As said before: all it takes is one player to start shooting at friendly ships with impunity at the start of the match and soon the whole team is shooting at each other just for [edited] and giggles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [CUTE] Submarine_Ro_500 Members 23 posts 10,143 battles Report post #20 Posted June 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lensar said: I get TKed by friendly torps once every 10 or so battles. It sucks, but it's part of the game. Removing it would pretty much ruin any and all immersion and willing suspension of disbelief that Warships provides. True, pretty common at low-tiers. though some Shimakazes still do that mistake... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
440 More_Witches Members 1,507 posts 1,138 battles Report post #21 Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, m373x said: As said before: all it takes is one player to start shooting at friendly ships with impunity at the start of the match and soon the whole team is shooting at each other just for [edited] and giggles. WoT Console didn't have team-damage so this is what happened pretty much every other match Of course, in WoT every single round costs silver, so people who did it had to do it out of their own pockets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [CUTE] Submarine_Ro_500 Members 23 posts 10,143 battles Report post #22 Posted June 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, m373x said: As said before: all it takes is one player to start shooting at friendly ships with impunity at the start of the match and soon the whole team is shooting at each other just for [edited] and giggles. Oh I know it, forget about remove TK, what about remove friendly damage when you are already pink? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
84 Shnoze_Shmon Members 512 posts 7,657 battles Report post #23 Posted June 18, 2017 Unfortunately, there is the occasional 50 lb bag of excrement that thinks it is justified to heavily damage or team kill you because you did something that doesn't fit with their misconceptions of how your ship should be played. Just submit a ticket and get said 50 lb bag one step closer to a permiban. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,431 [NO2BB] m373x Members 3,885 posts 24,515 battles Report post #24 Posted June 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Narumi498 said: Oh I know it, forget about remove TK, what about remove friendly damage when you are already pink? Then players will start running into the pink's player torpedoes with impunity to [edited] with him just for [edited] and giggles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
53 [SOL-B] Cooper_Capt Members 217 posts 7,876 battles Report post #25 Posted June 18, 2017 Should friendly damage be part of the game. YES. Should intentional TKs get SEVERE penalties. YES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
