So, I got the T-22 today.

[Admiral_Franz_von_Hipper]

 

And boy are the BB bots in Co-op so dumb. A pair of would be "Devastating Strikes" on 2 of them.

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This might be a fun boat to play with. First T5 DD I have had that does not have suicide torps.

[OseanTanker]

I really enjoyed the T-22, good torps and while the guns are smaller than the other nations, they fire fast and all four turrets can rotated 360 degrees.

[BladedPheonix]

wait til you get the Gaede! Then you'll see some real chaos!

[HMS_Battleship_Vanguard]

14 minutes ago, BladedPheonix said:

wait til you get the Gaede! Then you'll see some real chaos!

just for the pure sake of being a total scumbag, i'm tempted to re-spec my 18pt GK captain into a Gaede Captain :P

[BladedPheonix]

6 minutes ago, ObsidianShadow said:

just for the pure sake of being a total scumbag, i'm tempted to re-spec my 18pt GK captain into a Gaede Captain :P

Do it!!!!!!

[Doomlock]

I just couldn't get the T-22. It just did not click with me. Though I must say, Gaede is great, I love her 150mm guns. 

[BladedPheonix]

1 minute ago, Doomlock said:

I just couldn't get the T-22. It just did not click with me. Though I must say, Gaede is great, I love her 150mm guns. 

I just got the teir 7 (Maass) last night. its like a tier 7 Fletcher almost, but with better gun-vol! and shorter ranged torpedoes. I don't like the detection range though!

[Czevak]

You got the T-22? You poor soul.

[Doomlock]

11 minutes ago, BladedPheonix said:

I just got the teir 7 (Maass) last night. its like a tier 7 Fletcher almost, but with better gun-vol! and shorter ranged torpedoes. I don't like the detection range though!

Sweet. I'm loving the Gaede and thinking of keeping her. I am excited for Maass and her five Fletcher layout guns. Plus hydro!

[Wulfgarn]

Bout to open her myself to get to t6 for possibility of using during ranked. At least another option.

 

I was planning on free xp through it because all I've heard is how bad it is.

 

I'm guessing i heard wrong?

[MrDeaf]

5 hours ago, Wulfgarn said:

Bout to open her myself to get to t6 for possibility of using during ranked. At least another option.

 

I was planning on free xp through it because all I've heard is how bad it is.

 

I'm guessing i heard wrong?

no, you haven't heard wrong.
T-22 is an awful ship.

Guns worse than Mutsuki
Torps worse than Nicholas
Worst concealment
Worst top speed
2nd worst HP pool
Unimpressive agility, considering how bad the other features are

But in coop, it does fine.

[Exciton8964]

The ship has awful guns but quite good torpedoes.

 

I do not dislike the ship but just keep getting terrible teammates when playing her.

[LastSamurai714]

I am currently grinding the T-22 and it's the worst floating piece of crap I have played yet.  

 

Speed - Ok

Manuverability - Crap

Guns - Blah

Teaverse - Ok

Torps - Ok

Concealment - Crap

Smoke - lol

 

While some success can be found from time to time in any ship...what the T-22 ship lacks is an identity.  When people say "jack of all trades" it's usually a good thing.  When I say that about the T-22 I mean more of "it excels at nothing but can do whatever inputs you tell it to do."

 

Lower tier German DD's were fun because they had a role...an identity.  Then the Turd-22...

 

Pass.  

 

 

[Umikami]

It's von Hipper the Hipper Skipper! (love your avatar dude!)

The issue most players have with the German line is they buy into the old self-fulfilling prophesy that the entire German DD line is crap, which got started when the line was introduced. Back then we still had invisifire and this German line paid a horrendous penalty whenever they fired their guns, and so the entire line got labeled as crap.

Then they did away with invisifire ...

German DD's are not like anything else in the game.

• Rather than start with poor torps and good guns, they have good torps and mediocre guns.
• German AP is killer
• Hydro will save your rear

They are still DD's, embrace the stealth you have and learn to use it. I stay a bit further back than I would with a USN DD, but feel comfortable getting closer than I would with a Russian DD. Use your torps ruthlessly as they are quite good. Fight like Ali; bob and weave, hit and split.

Be the butterfly.

 

 

[Camo68]

I found the T-22 a hard ship to love, by the time I started to get the hang of her the grind was over and I haven't been back.

Play her as a Torp boat first and use guns only where the situation is favourable and you will get the most out of her.

 

OP - If you want to have fun at T5 with torps get the minekaze!

[El_Swamp_Rat]

It's not that bad really, I kept mine just for the AA lol's. My best game in it so far was over 88k damage and 7 planes shot done. 

The guns are bad, torps are good, AA is great.

[Kunra_1]

On 6/18/2017 at 0:33 AM, MrDeaf said:

no, you haven't heard wrong.
T-22 is an awful ship.

Guns worse than Mutsuki
Torps worse than Nicholas
Worst concealment
Worst top speed
2nd worst HP pool
Unimpressive agility, considering how bad the other features are

But in coop, it does fine.

How are the guns worse then Mutsuki(mutsucky) I mean it's guns are utterly unusable their turret Travers is horrendous and makes them completely unusable because as soon as you turn they are on the other side of the ship it feels like.

 

I feel like people just don't take the time to learn her or are just impatient and can't wait for the proper time to strike. 

 

Her guns a good for running off other destroyers and I've won a few knife fights withem. I've had pretty good success setting BBs and Cruisers on fire too. 

 

Her torps are awesome. They are super stealthy and when used while not detected can really ruin someone's day. 

 

The other day when I played her I cant remember the map but it's the one that's split in two with islands in the middle and your team is split in half. Anyways I was able to go head to head with a couple cruisers, took one out with torps. Team took out the other then went after a kongo that was running away ran across and AFK dd so of course torped it and continued Pursuing the Kongo did alot of HE damage and fire I ended her with a torp. Then moved to the other side now behind the enemy's over there it was one Kaiser and a Texas. Went for Texas and I set her on fire so many times she kept dodging my torps but I did finally get her. Great game I love the T-22 great ship you just have to be patient and know your detection ring. Stay hidden and drop torps until the situation is favorable then go in for the kill.

 

I can't stand the mutsuki though ugh terrible guns and torpedo detection makes it hard to hit unless you get close. Boring to me for a DD and with the nerfs left and right on Japanese DDs I decided to abandon the line for now. 

[sasquatch_research]

Hey

I have to admit; I'm not the best DD guy but I loved the German line up to the T22 and stopped because I hated the fishing trawler.  I have been debating about picking up the line again and using XP to pass by the T22.  It was Meh at best for me. Maybe Gaede is better?

 

Pete

[shiroko_prpr]

T-22 is a fine ship

[Umikami]

On ‎6‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 1:36 PM, Admiral_Franz_von_Hipper said:

This might be a fun boat to play with.

I always thought so.

[JochenHeiden]

On 9/7/2017 at 9:53 PM, sasquatch_research said:

Hey

I have to admit; I'm not the best DD guy but I loved the German line up to the T22 and stopped because I hated the fishing trawler.  I have been debating about picking up the line again and using XP to pass by the T22.  It was Meh at best for me. Maybe Gaede is better?

 

Pete

Free XP the T-22 and go straight to b hull Gaede. THats when you start getting hydro. 

[sasquatch_research]

9 hours ago, JochenHeiden said:

Free XP the T-22 and go straight to b hull Gaede. THats when you start getting hydro. 

Hey

I did that just this morning;  What do people recommend for upgrade slots 3 & 4?  (I was thinking propulsion mod 1 (3) and propulsion mod 2 or steering gears?)  and then I only have a 6 pt captain for now which stinks but I have PT, Last Stand and 3 pts to use (S.I., Torp reload, or S.E)?  Thoughts?  

 

Pete

 

Update:  I decided to go for Propulsion Mod 1 for slot 3 and Steering gears Mod 2 for Slot 4.  And I went with SuperIntendent for the 3 points on the Capt.  I think in the future I will be going for Exp. Marksman, Concealment and Torp Reload Expert or AR.  So far; it's been pretty fun in the few random games I've played.

[JochenHeiden]

Recommend propulsion mod that makes you accelerate faster.  A lot of times you'll be in smoke with your hydro on and enemy torpedoes will be shot at you.  The acceleration helps you get out of the way faster.

[sasquatch_research]

Hey

With the Ernst Gaede; I have found it to be fun to play; but the turrets are a little sluggish and will get Exp. Marksman, Concealment is much needed and then Torp Reload is after that.  It's fun even though the turning radius is a bit much, feels like I'm in my Graf Spee, which I dearly love.

 

Pete