0 [AQUA] Big_Trading_Clipper Members 1 post 9,679 battles Report post #1 Posted June 17, 2017 What to you think about this match making? PAY TO WIN MM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 Aschenblume Members 38 posts 356 battles Report post #2 Posted June 17, 2017 they are top tier now but is unlikely to be top tier every game. So I don't see a problem only problem is the Belfast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #3 Posted June 17, 2017 Just because they are in premium ships does not mean they will win. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
293 TheZeke00 Wiki Editor 798 posts Report post #4 Posted June 17, 2017 The only thing that I see is unfair is that your side has three Tier V and the reds have two. Everything else is just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #5 Posted June 17, 2017 Welp. Not sure it matters, but it does seem odd that every single premium got dropped on one side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
293 TheZeke00 Wiki Editor 798 posts Report post #6 Posted June 17, 2017 I suspect this is sample bias. If there were more screencaps taken it would show a more average distribution. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
38 [REVY] SolarChild [REVY] Members 324 posts 1,866 battles Report post #7 Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, renegadestatuz said: Just because they are in premium ships does not mean they will win. Exactly! It's the Weekend, all the weekend warriors farming credits are out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #8 Posted June 17, 2017 Pay to win MM? I see nothing of the sort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #9 Posted June 17, 2017 Sims is not pay to win... well okay, it is compared to Mahan, but not the other T7 tech tree DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,431 [NO2BB] m373x Members 3,885 posts 24,515 battles Report post #10 Posted June 17, 2017 What is there to agree or disagree with? Lucky MM draw that I would not have even noticed tbh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #11 Posted June 17, 2017 Looks like a normal MM distribution. We also cant see who is divisioned if any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #12 Posted June 17, 2017 oh, and Dunkerque and Atlanta are not exactly P2W ships. They require quite a bit of finesse to play well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #13 Posted June 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, MrDeaf said: Sims is not pay to win... well okay, it is compared to Mahan, but not the other T7 tech tree DDs. Sims does have those Benson guns, and ridiculous speed and maneuverability over the other DDs too. Oh and USN smoke. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,301 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF5] Members 38,167 posts 30,915 battles Report post #14 Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Doomlock said: Sims does have those Benson guns, and ridiculous speed and maneuverability over the other DDs too. Oh and USN smoke. Just saying. But Sims has either long ranged Slowpedoes or damaging, very short ranged ones. And Mahan is a USN DD so it has USN smoke but far more useful torpedoes. Mahan is more rounded as a DD, Sims is the specialized knife fighter. Oh and OP, looks like normal MM. 2300 matches into WoWS and you think there's a Premium Ship MM Conspiracy. Your first post on the boards is a whine post, and an incorrect whine post at that. Edited June 17, 2017 by HazeGrayUnderway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #15 Posted June 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Doomlock said: Sims does have those Benson guns, and ridiculous speed and maneuverability over the other DDs too. Oh and USN smoke. Just saying. Sims gets 4x 18RPM Mahan gets 5x 15RPM all in all, Mahan has slightly more firepower, but Sims is far superior as a DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
53 [SOL-B] Cooper_Capt Members 217 posts 7,876 battles Report post #16 Posted June 17, 2017 This is the load screen. Would have been interesting to see the results screen also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #17 Posted June 17, 2017 OP's title should have said, "Should MM take premium ships into consideration when creating teams?" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,301 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF5] Members 38,167 posts 30,915 battles Report post #18 Posted June 17, 2017 1 minute ago, awiggin said: OP's title should have said, "Should MM take premium ships into consideration when creating teams?" But it's a CONSPIRACY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,678 VGLance Banned 2,229 posts 11,923 battles Report post #19 Posted June 17, 2017 Pay to win MM means you have the capacity to give WG real money in exchange for either an increase in frequency of being highest tier or increasing the skill level of the players on your team. Nothing more. Premium ships are not better than their non-premium counterparts after skill is factored in. This is especially true considering the sheer volume of players with no experience buying premium ships and playing them before learning the fundamentals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #20 Posted June 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, VGLance said: Pay to win MM means you have the capacity to give WG real money in exchange for either an increase in frequency of being highest tier or increasing the skill level of the players on your team. Nothing more. Premium ships are not better than their non-premium counterparts after skill is factored in. This is especially true considering the sheer volume of players with no experience buying premium ships and playing them before learning the fundamentals. Then you're saying that Tier 10 is PTW? After all, you literally have to pay to play tier 10, and you're always top tier...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,880 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,331 posts 13,756 battles Report post #21 Posted June 17, 2017 Ah, P2W, the usual scream of the horrid potato. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
240 [SFOR] _no_one_ Members 997 posts 8,029 battles Report post #22 Posted June 17, 2017 Only problem i see with premium is the Belfast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #23 Posted June 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, TheKrimzonDemon said: Ah, P2W, the usual scream of the horrid potato. And the horribly salty. I don't see anything seriously wrong with this MM. Personally I prefer being up a DD than up a CL, but that's got nothing to do with premiums or any P2W conspiracy. I do suspects that divs had something to do with how the teams look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,000 [CREDO] Spud_butt Members 2,457 posts 9,230 battles Report post #24 Posted June 17, 2017 which team won? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
789 DerKrampus Members 1,853 posts 3,584 battles Report post #25 Posted June 17, 2017 I disagree. It seems rather balanced, to me. The Scharnhorst is a better battleship than your Colorado tier for tier, but at the same time, your Bayern is generally superior to their Dunkerque. Your pair of Yorcks is outclassed by their Atlanta/Belfast combo. The Schors slightly edges out Ashigara, as it can do all the same HE-spamming, with added effectiveness against their DDs. Your Leander is just straight-up better than their Nurnberg. Gunboats generally have an advantage over torp boats, but your Nicholas should be able to deal with their Minekaze, whilst you have an extra cruiser to help combat their DDs in the form of the Furutaka. (And the benefit of the aforementioned Schors.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
