Bismarck, better than radar.

[Slimeball91]

I'm one of the proud new Bismarck owners.  Complete BB noob.  I'm not setting the world on fire with my damage, but I've had a few decent games (by noob standards).  One of the things I've noticed in the 20 or so games I've played is how easy it is to kill DDs in a BB.  I have a low skill point captain so I'm not talking about a fully spec'ed secondary build, I mean with main guns.  I've killed more DDs in my recent BB games than I would ever have in one of my radar cruisers.  Anyone else having the same experience?

[Aschenblume]

Probably because the 380mm guns are smaller by the tier average and you can get more shots out at medium range. 

[Big_Tidday_Goth_GF]

It seems to me that DDs are easy to kill in anything as long as you arent chasing them off alone or fighting their kind of fight.

[HazardDrake]

Yup. Overmatch against DD "armor" when they are end on gives lots of 33% pens.

[Slimeball91]

Probably because the 380mm guns are smaller by the tier average and you can get more shots out at medium range. 

 

I play the Atlanta, the 380s can't touch my volume of fire, no question the they hit harder.

[m373x]

DDs don't have much HP to begin with, couple that with the massive damage BB rounds deal and it is easy to see why. On a side note it is everyone's responsibility to kill the enemy DD, not the radar cruiser itself.

[Slimeball91]

It seems to me that DDs are easy to kill in anything as long as you arent chasing them off alone or fighting their kind of fight.

 

It can be easy in a good RoF cruiser but they avoid you like the plague.  If they are foolish enough to get detected near my Bis it seems childishly simple to spank or out right kill them.  

[Slimeball91]

DDs don't have much HP to begin with, couple that with the massive damage BB rounds deal and it is easy to see why. On a side note it is everyone's responsibility to kill the enemy DD, not the radar cruiser itself.

 

That's true.  Seems to me like the best anti-DD mechanic WG ever introduced...free Bismarcks for everyone.

[Cobraclutch]

DD's are ridiculously easy to hunt in BB's . 

[Slimeball91]

DD's are ridiculously easy to hunt in BB's . 

 

What's interesting is that isn't my experience playing DDs.  I must be more careful in my DDs than others.  The one thing I will say, I like USN DD, good DD killers, so I know how to lead my shots on them.  That accounts for some the ease, but I had no idea it was this easy.

[Estimated_Prophet]

DDs don't have much HP to begin with, couple that with the massive damage BB rounds deal and it is easy to see why. On a side note it is everyone's responsibility to kill the enemy DD, not the radar cruiser itself.

 

YES.

 

Unless something else is about to kill you; if you can shoot at a destroyer. DO SO.

[AVR_Project]

Battleships kill cruisers.

Cruisers kill Destroyers.

Destroyers kill Battleships.

And so if you want to hunt Destroyers.....  You need to be a lone Battleship..  looking like helpless prey.

Look like you are busy with another ship.  Keep HE loaded...  Change course every 15 seconds.

After 3 failed salvoes of stealth torpedoes, they get ticked off and close the distance from behind - thinking you aren't watching.

Pop Hydro, spin around and nuke them with the mains.  Fire one turret at a time, spaced out about 8-10 seconds.

Change course in between shots.

[Mahrs]

Yes, DDs are generally easy to kill with BB guns IF RNG cooperates and gives you the group you need.  The shells tend to fly flat from KM BBs, too.  Nice to see you're actually shooting at them - so many BBs make the mistake of not focusing DDs.  

 

I hope you enjoy your Bismarck a lot more than I...well...yeah, just I hope you like it.

 

As to hunting DD...I've lost count of the number of times RNG decided my torp spread would include a BB sized hole right where the BB is.  It's frustrating to shoot an over lapping 10 torp spread only to see that massive hole...that the BB doesn't even need to steer to slip through.  

[Slimeball91]

Battleships kill cruisers.

Cruisers kill Destroyers.

Destroyers kill Battleships.

Well my experience in DDs certainly brings the idea of DDs killing BBs into serious question...and my (limited) experience in BBs says they kill cruisers and DDs equally well. 

 

...Fire one turret at a time, spaced out about 8-10 seconds.

Change course in between shots.

 

Good idea about firing one turret at a time.  That would help against these DDs that are better at dodging. 

[Sakuzhi]

DD's are ridiculously easy to hunt in BB's . 

 

Depends on the Battleship. Having something that is more than 30knots certainly makes it easier

[GrimmeReaper]

If you like killing DDs now in the Bismarck wait till you have the full secondary build on it with Manual Secondaries...

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Well my experience in DDs certainly brings the idea of DDs killing BBs into serious question...and my (limited) experience in BBs says they kill cruisers and DDs equally well. 

 

Good idea about firing one turret at a time.  That would help against these DDs that are better at dodging. 

 

I have a trio of brand new shotguns named Missouri, North Carolina, and Alabama, and older pair named New Mexico and Arizona, an even older pair named Wyoming and New York, a Japanese shotgun named Fuso, and a fancy filifried French shotgun named Dunkerque that would beg to differ about the inability of blast patterns to hit dodging destroyers...

 

...and if I really wanted to brag; I have an older fouling gun named South Carolina that seems to do just as well.

[Slimeball91]

If you like killing DDs now in the Bismarck wait till you have the full secondary build on it with Manual Secondaries...

 

I play DDs, so I might feel too guilty going full secondary spec.  Also, why bother when it is childishly easy to kill a DD with your guns and 8km range secondaries.  I'm kidding, full secondary built it is, the hell with those little bastards.

[NashW8]

DD's are ridiculously easy to hunt in BB's . 

 

Not hunt as much as kite. They may be fast, but if you get them trying to run you down they are usually out of luck. Worked very well with Myogi.