Matchmaking.. absolute joke!

[danojaye]

Tier8.. Constantly in T10 games. Buy a Kaga ( T6Planes ) nothing but T9 Matches. A Tirpitz facing a team with 3 Yamatos? Deleted as soon as being spotted.

 

The PowerCreep and 2 tier differences is getting a bit extreme as of late.

 

Matchmaker needs to be tightened to a +1/-1 Tiering. I'll wait in Que for an extra minute. Till then, its nothing but T10 for me as its become absolutely STUPID in tiering differences once you select a T7 ship.

 

[RadSammichEater]

Yeah I'll admit...Tier 8 is getting creeped pretty hard right now. Our div had at least one good T8 game as top tier today. I don't support +1/-1 MM, but I do think the queue can throw together better tier 8 games.

[Soshi_Sone]

Bottom tier is a challenge.  And sometimes, a bottom tier ship tops out.  

[LoneStormchaser]

If Rank is for level 6, as assumed, wait for all the complaints about the Warspite.

[KalishniKat]

+2-2 is an obvious issue that WG is ignoring. You think tier 8 is bad go back and try to run tier 5s.

[Parliament_Funkadelic]

It could be a blast if they changed the game up some, 12 tier 8's vs 8 tier 10's. ..... pump some new blood into the average game

[MrKilmister]

If Rank is for level 6, as assumed, wait for all the complaints about the Warspite.

 

Playing Warspite currently in Random is unrewarding to the point of being punishing, even with the nice turret traverse buff.  Sticking with playing T8 ships is much more enjoyable - I don't mind playing any of my T8 BBs or cruisers in T10 battles; with BBs it can actually be preferable to me. 

 

I have a feeling within the specific conditions of T6 Ranked battle, Warspite would be more in her element. 

 

P.S. With Warspite, I'd rather get up-tiered with more skilled or competent teams that I can support rather than try in vein to carry a team of scrubs driving T5 and 6 ships who can't hit or sink much and have horsesh!te situational awareness. I just had former situation as example. I nuked a Pepsi with 2 citadel hits, helped finish a Leander, hurt a pair of DDs, sank a Mogami, defended a cap, we won handily and I had some fun. 

 

 

[a_trout_bum_2]

i think what it really needed is some way for wg to track just what tiers your ship has got. and then somehow balance them, so it you are in a ship with  2 tier mm, you get 1 game top tier, one mid tier and 1 bottom

 

all i expect is to be treated fair, give me what is due.  but a steady diet of gettin screwed because too many people are playin high tiers...... my question is how is this my problem, and why am i being punnished for it.

 

lets get the 33%  tier balance in the game, and quit giving my turn as top tier to someone else, while i get shafted again

 

now i think some wg  bootlicker  will trot out the argument that  the que times for the higher tier players would be to long,  my answer is,  again.... how is this my problem , and why should i be punnished for it

 

 

 

[Cruxdei]

i heard wows is looking at wot new MM,who knows?you might get a MM where you get 2 tier10 and a bunch of tier8.

[Kapitan_Wuff]

I like +2/-2. Personally I love being bottom tier and then playing well, massive XP and the joy of being at the top of the team. However, where I can handle being bottom tier BB,CL, or DD... being a bottom tier CV is a different story.

[LoneStormchaser]

 

Playing Warspite currently in Random is unrewarding to the point of being punishing, even with the nice turret traverse buff.  Sticking with playing T8 ships is much more enjoyable - I don't mind playing any of my T8 BBs or cruisers in T10 battles; with BBs it can actually be preferable to me. 

 

I have a feeling within the specific conditions of T6 Ranked battle, Warspite would be more in her element. 

 

 

 

Sorry. A little off topc here.

 

Was the Warspite ever nerfed? I mean, I am not sure there is a tier 6 ship that can cit a Warspite. As for their guns, unless these were nerfed as well, I believe there are some tier 8's that can be cit by a Warspite.

[RipNuN2]

 

Sorry. A little off topc here.

 

Was the Warspite ever nerfed? I mean, I am not sure there is a tier 6 ship that can cit a Warspite. As for their guns, unless these were nerfed as well, I believe there are some tier 8's that can be cit by a Warspite.

 

They are referring to the protected MM T4 and T5 get which leads to the Warspite being uptiered more often. Yes other T6s can cit the warspite if she is showing enough broadside.

[Ulthwey]

I like +2/-2. Personally I love being bottom tier and then playing well, massive XP and the joy of being at the top of the team. However, where I can handle being bottom tier BB,CL, or DD... being a bottom tier CV is a different story.

 

Next time I play tier X, I'll make sure to save a salvo or a wall of torps just so I can erase you in one shot. We'll see how much longer you good mood will last after that.

 

[motaz87]

weird, when i play tier 8 i routinely do better than alot of the tier 9s and 10s on my own team, especially in the alabama.

[Azzura]

I decided to write down MM results over a few evenings playing T8.

It worked out to ---

40% +2T matches

40% +1T matches

20% even Tier

 

A year or so ago ---I use to play with my Warspite a lot ----- It is pretty much mothballed now...

I use to love playing the Scharn ----- It pretty much sits in mothballs now...

I was going to buy the Hood...but 4 matches out of 10 at T+2. Four matches T+1 (not so bad T1..but mehh).

With 2 games out of 10 at even Tier.... It'd probably just end up in mothballs too.....so can't bring myself to purchase it.

 

I don't mind T+2...but what I do mind ---- is the frequency at which it happens!!!!

 

Only playing T10 now....with a rare T7 or T8 to remind me why I play T10. Eventually, I'll just get tired of T10...play less....and maybe leave the game I guess (?).

[More_Witches]

I mean, if we were talking about a game like WoT where differences in tier can mean huge disadvantages across the board (especially in health pool and the simple ability to deal at least some damage to any given opponent you might run into, not to mention having +3 matchmaking for (almost) all light tanks above tier III) then I'd understand where you're coming from

 

But in this game? 

 

Sure, being put into +2 situations is still difficult, but far from impossible. CVs and BBs are hurt more by +2 than the other classes in most cases, but they aren't nearly as outmatched as say, a Black Prince trying to fight E-75s

[Ulthwey]

weird, when i play tier 8 i routinely do better than alot of the tier 9s and 10s on my own team, especially in the alabama.

 

We call then scrubs, potatoes and noobs in this game

[SimiaStoicus]

I do not support +1/-1 Tiering. Would see same ships over and over again and make it boring quicker.

 

Maybe balance MM so disadvantaged tiers get more games where they are top tier or at least not bottom tier, even if it makes MM take longer.

[KalishniKat]

If WG insists on +2, maybe stop throwing 1 tier 5 into a tier 7 game....make it a few lows a few middles and a few tops. But no...usually some poor sot (me) getting to be solo, or 1 of 2 low ships in the game. Fine in Emile Bertin, not so good in Emerald.

[_ENO_]

Matchmaker seems good at tier 10. Top tier every game!

[Drakausa]

As we can all see, MM is a problem almost across the board. I have a strong feeling that the number of players in the base of a server requires WG to make those serious +2/-2 tier differences because of time zones which heavily divide the players available. Also, there is no way, as yet, to know which ship and tier an individual player wants to run at any one time. Balance would be most effective at a single tier game, making player skill and tactics be the most important factor. However I think the WG designers know this already but are forced by the widespread player base to make those tier differences so as to get games started. Do not envy them that job but do think a massive player recruiting job might be in order, if they have the money.

 

As a devils advocate I HATE seeing half the total ships in a game being BBs. I HATE taking my T6 ship against T8s and T7s where I am outgunned and outranged. Survival alone is tough unless I just cower away and I can usually forget things such as damage and creds and points. So MM just doesn't have enough players at one time to keep most games within reasonable balance. How about an 'Event' where the queue is lengthened some to allow a more balanced tier distribution to see how our population responds?

[Jack_Stewart]

On 6/10/2017 at 4:14 PM, More_Witches said:

I mean, if we were talking about a game like WoT where differences in tier can mean huge disadvantages across the board (especially in health pool and the simple ability to deal at least some damage to any given opponent you might run into, not to mention having +3 matchmaking for (almost) all light tanks above tier III) then I'd understand where you're coming from, but in this game?  Sure, being put into +2 situations is still difficult, but far from impossible. CVs and BBs are hurt more by +2 than the other classes in most cases[...]

That +2 tier spread becomes crippling for most every class. Your T5 DD's start running into radar. Your T6 BB's start running into 16" guns. CL/CA are focus-fired into oblivion by everything.

There is a simple solution to fixing this. Add one or two high-tier ships to a mid-tier game, not the other way around. A couple of T7s can be focus-fired by a swarm of T5s, a single T5 in a T7 game is chum.

[Taichunger]

On 6/11/2017 at 1:33 AM, lemekillmister said:

 

Playing Warspite currently in Random is unrewarding to the point of being punishing, even with the nice turret traverse buff.  

 

 

The turret buff was basically a tacit concession that Warspite was no longer competitive because it was being uptiered too often. 

So much fallout simply because WG decided to protect T4 and will not admit how dumb that decision was and reverse it.

[More_Witches]

4 hours ago, Jack_Stewart said:

That +2 tier spread becomes crippling for most every class. Your T5 DD's start running into radar. Your T6 BB's start running into 16" guns. CL/CA are focus-fired into oblivion by everything.

There is a simple solution to fixing this. Add one or two high-tier ships to a mid-tier game, not the other way around. A couple of T7s can be focus-fired by a swarm of T5s, a single T5 in a T7 game is chum.

You mean T5 BBs? Cause as of now there's one (albeit rare) T6 BB with 16" guns (Mutsu), as well as two of the three T7 tech tree BBs having 16" guns (Colorado and Nagato)

And the extra inch doesn't make much difference to the T6 BBs either, since two (soon to be three) of their own (Warspite, the upcoming Queen Elizabeths, and Bayern) can lolpen them already with 15" guns

T5 DDs start running into Hydro a tier earlier, and T6 and T7 DDs are about as well equipped to deal with radar as a T5 DD is

Cruisers can receive concentrated fire from any tier or combination of tiers. A Cleveland getting focused down by T8s is liable to last as long (possibly longer) than a Pensacola in the same exact situation

[Spooooooooooooooooooooon]

On 6/10/2017 at 1:12 PM, KalishniKat said:

+2-2 is an obvious issue that WG is ignoring. You think tier 8 is bad go back and try to run tier 5s.

Tier 8 has gotten just as bad as tier 5 in my opinion.  Well over 50% bottom tier