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Cool Ships as Premiums you would like to have `in the game?

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Just another place to put down a list of ships you all would like to buy or think would be cool to see in the game.

 

For me, lately it would be.

 

HMS Norfolk

 

T8? British Cruiser

8x2 8 inch guns

4 secondaries per side

decent looking AA

Gimmick? 8 Inch guns with British smoke generator.

Hydro, British cruiser repair, no radar, no torpedoes

HE maybe an option? unsure, might prefer raw 8 inch AP power.

 

The Norfold was involved in both the sinking of the Scharnhost and the Bismark. She participated in many navy operations and is historically one of the most significant British cruisers in world war 2.

 

??? Premium German Destroyer

Not sure what tier would work but it would be cool to have a german DD that showcases all the points that can make German DD unique

Choice of 128mm or 150mm gun

Forward launched torpedo option but at a cost of alpha strike on the side launch

Hydro acoustic search

Reasonably sturdy, reasonably stealthy, maybe a little chubby and slow but capable.

Maybe the Z-32 would be a candidate just without any of the forward launch tubes.

 

Tier 5 HMS Agincourt

Main battery 2x7 14 inchers, that's 305mm

Speed 22 knots

Gimmicks?

Armor is kongo thick, to make up for the fact that it has absurd firepower for a tier 5 the sigma value and general accuracy of the main battery would be very poor and or maybe have a 35 second reload time on those guns.

 

Tier 7 Premium Japanese destroyer Shigure and or Yudachi, battle faceoff!

Make her a premium Shiratsuyu, yeah, that would be a lot of fun.

Gimmicks?

Sell both Yudachi and Shigure at the same time and make them identical but let the players decide which ship to buy, you could even sell both together in a bundle and save 50%... $45 for two tier 7 destroyers that are identical or $30 for one? Why not?

 

HMS Glow Worm

Tier 7 or Tier 8 British Destroyer

2x4 120mm british guns and 2x5 torpedo banks

Gimmicks?

Bonus to ramming damage, maybe give her an extra wide smoke to help facilitate her tactic.

 

HMCS Haida (I know she is likely to come out but I still want her)

Tier 5 Canadian Destroyer

3x1 119mm guns and 1x4 torpedo banks, with a 102mm twin gun secondary.

Gimmick?

Maybe her guns have a longer range than average at her tier, and her torpedoes are again, superior quality for her tier, but lacking in number.

Most importantly Haida should have her pretty green, white, and blue camo scheme that was discussed in another thread.

 

Anyway I'll leave these wishes here for now. I could keep going but do not want people to hurt me.

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ZERSTORER 1936C:

x6 128mm/61-caliber KM40 guns (Not those crappy L/45 versions)

 

 

Size (Max):     3683 t
Length (Total):     126,2 m
Length (Waterline):     121,5 m
Beam:     12,2 m
Draft:     4,45 m
Shafts:     2
Turbines:     2
Type:  

  Wagner Type Geared Turbines (Schichau build)

Performance
Total Performance:     70000 shp
Speed:     37,5 kn
Range:     2500 miles at 19 kn

 

 

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I have no specifics but would like to see Wargaming release premium ships for nations that really don't have much of a navy but have lots of players in game. I think they would love to be able to sail a ship of their navy flying their nation's flag. Think of Brazil, Canada, and Mexico for instance. Not large naval powers but all three countries have lots of players in game and all proud people. Canada could be tossed in with the Commonwealth countries (duh) and the others could be grouped as Pan Central/South America or the like. Europe has tons of small countries that could be represented like this as well. 

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SMS Schleswig Holstein in her 1944 configuration

 

2x2 28cm guns, not those found on the Nassau but an older model

6x1 10.5cm Secondary guns, no DP

10x1 40mm Bofors AA gun

2x2 37mm Flakzwilling (those found on Königsberg and Nürnberg)

several 20mm AA guns

 

What would make her special? She would have without a doubt the best AA at her Tiers, seems like a waste considering that she would only see the Fighters from Katori.

 

Why the SMS Schleswig Holstein? Because this ship marked the beginning of WW2 when she opened fire on Danzig. I would say that she had quite a role considering her age (she was outclassed by most capital ships in WW1), she was part of the small fleet that remained for Germany after the Treaty of Versailles and of course she saw action in both World Wars.

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Norfolk never lost her torpedo tubes. 

Tier 6/7 tier wise. Probably 6, as she was never rebuilt. 

 

Agincourt had 12" guns. Definitely tier IV material. Think Itchy Zucchini but slower and 4 more main guns. 

 

Glowworm only had 4 x 1 main guns, a la Gallant. Tier VI. 

 

Haida had 3 x 2 main guns. Definitely tier VII material. 

 

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WG please give us Musashi!

 

She was a historically relevant ship, 90% of her model is already in the game, and the mechanism for introducing her is already here. Introduce her as a tier 10 premium ship that is only available for free experience (I would happily pay 1 million free experience for her). She doesn't even need to print as much as a Missouri, just give her a built in tier 10 premium camouflage. Balance her as an alternative Yamato and let her be equipped with the 155mm secondaries, and allow them to fire HE rather than AP to give her a bit of "flavor", at the cost of reduced AA. 

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USS Wichita.  Basically a Brooklyn Class cruiser with 3x3 203s off a New Orleans.

 

Though if you ask me should of built more of the New Orleans class as Wichita. Would of been more of a rude awakening for Japan.

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I'd be curious to see the final refit of the USS Tennessee, it looks cool with those modern AA/secondaries and i hear had gotten too wide for the panama canal and had a displacement like 40k+ t or so after the rebuild. Seems to be beyond the t6 range definitely though still a 14" armed BB, the last of the standards with that caliber if i recall..

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Maya, at T7. It would be an AA IJN CA. Trading two barrels for the full compliment of AA that the Takao-class(and Maya in particular) had. Also Tone, because it's the only missing IJN CA class.

 

Also, I'd rather actually have a premium Akatsuki. After not being impressed by Shiratsuyu, I would rather see a more versatile premium mid-tier IJN DD. Shira's speed would not make for an enjoyable premium, in my opinion.

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Because I'm lazy, I'm going to copy-paste one of my responses from another thread;

 

-Giuseppe Garibaldi - one of the last CL's built by Italy, fought in numerous actions, and post-war was rebuilt into the first missile cruiser in Europe. An Abruzzi-class cruiser, as a premium. How can you go wrong?

 

-Raimondo Montecuccoli - although she'll likely be a tier V tree ship, as she's a class leader, she's one of three contenders for the longest range hit in naval history, but also probably the most impressive, hitting the British minesweeper Hebe at a range of about 26,000 yards. That's a hit from a 6" shell on a target that measures roughly 75 x 10 meters. Then consider the only other hits at such ranges being done by Battleship-caliber shells, on targets of much greater size (BB and a CV).

 

-Folgore - The destroyer that famously sank in defense of its convoy only after firing every last torpedo, shell, and bullet on the ship at the attackers.

 

-Espero - A destroyer who decided to sacrifice itself to preserve the rest of the convoy (successfully). In the ensuing battle between the old destroyer and five modern British light cruisers, Espero lead her foes for a three and a half hour duel that she ultimately lost, but allowed the convoy to get away cleanly. The British had expended a full 86% of all 6" shells in the theater (some 5000 rounds) in order to sink her, giving Espero's efforts a disproportionate effect; forcing the British to cancel two Malta convoys from the lack of ammunition.

 

-Aquila - Italy's nearly complete aircraft carrier.

 

-Gorizia - The last surviving Italian heavy cruiser, she managed to survive the second world war despite all the odds being against her. She quite literally fought in every major engagement fought by the Regia Marina during the war, save for the Battle of Cape Matapan where she lost her sisters.

 

-Dante Alighieri - The first Italian Dreadnought battleship, and the first battleship to feature triple turrets. Also, to my knowledge, the only Dreadnought named after a poet.

 

-Giulio Cesare - Probably the most storied of any of the rebuilt Dreadnoughts, she saw the most action of any of the rebuilds, particularly after the attack on Taranto, in which she and Vittorio Veneto (and Andrea Doria, although she's involved in less action) suddenly find themselves having to fill the role of the three Battleships damaged at Taranto, until said vessels were repaired. She, like d'Aosta, was given over the the USSR as war reparations, and was lost in Soviet service; either due to being parked over a mine (facepalm), or possibly by a vengeful strike from Decima MAS (?)

 

-Vittorio Veneto - unlikely since Roma is coming... But she, unlike Roma, had quite the career, taking part in numerous engagements during the war, especially, like Cesare, after Matapan, where she was left as the most powerful battleship operational in the Italian fleet.

 

 

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USS Alaska

 

She's likely to be in the tech tree as a tier 6 BB rather than a premium.

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USS Houston CA-30, Northampton class heavy cruiser launched in 1929 as a CL due to her thin armor, but reclassified a CA in 1931 after the 1930 London Naval Treaty due to her 8 inch guns.

This ship deserves to be a premium for her actions at the start of WW II.  She would be a sister to the Perth in their fates were intertwined!

Battle of Sunda Strait

Houston and Perth reached Tanjong Priok on 28 February, where they attempted to resupply, but were met with fuel shortages and no available ammunition.[15] The two cruisers were ordered to sail to Tjilatjap with Dutch destroyer Evertsen, but departed at 17:00 without Evertsen, which was delayed.[16] The Allies believed that Sunda Strait was free of enemy vessels, with the last intelligence reports indicating that Japanese warships were no closer than 50 miles (43 nmi; 80 km), but a large Japanese force had assembled at Bantam Bay.[17][16][18] At 23:06, the two cruisers were off St. Nicholas Point when lookouts on Perth sighted an unidentified ship; when it was realized that she was a Japanese destroyer, Perth engaged.[17][16] However, as this happened, multiple Japanese warships appeared and surrounded the two Allied ships.[17][16]

The two cruisers evaded the nine torpedoes launched by the destroyer Fubuki.[18] According to ABDA post-battle reports, the cruisers then reportedly sank one transport and forced three others to beach, but were blocked from passing through Sunda Strait by a destroyer squadron, and had to contend with the heavy cruisers Mogami and Mikuma in close proximity.[5] At midnight, Perth attempted to force a way through the destroyers, but was hit by four torpedoes in the space of a few minutes, then subject to close-range gunfire until sinking at 00:25 on 1 March.[16]

On board Houston, shells were in short supply in the forward turrets, so the crew manhandled shells from the disabled number three turret to the forward turrets. Houston was struck by a torpedo shortly after midnight, and began to lose headway.[5]Houston's gunners had scored hits on three different destroyers and sunk a minesweeper, but she was struck by three more torpedoes in quick succession.[5] Captain Albert Rooks was killed by a bursting shell at 00:30, and as the ship came to a stop, Japanese destroyers moved in, machine-gunning the decks. A few minutes later, Houston rolled over and sank.[5] Of the 1,061 aboard, 368 survived, including 24 of the 74-man Marine Detachment, only to be captured by the Japanese and interned in prison camps.

Aftermath

Houston's fate was not fully known by the world for almost nine months, and the full story of her last fight was not told until the survivors were liberated from prison camps at the end of the war.[5] Before then, on 30 May 1942, 1,000 new recruits for the Navy, known as the Houston Volunteers, were sworn in at a dedication ceremony in downtown Houston, to replace those believed lost on Houston. On 12 October 1942 the light cruiser Vicksburg (CL-81), then under construction, was renamed Houston in honor of the old ship, President Roosevelt declaring:

Our enemies have given us the chance to prove that there will be another USS Houston, and yet another USS Houston if that becomes necessary, and still another USS Houston as long as American ideals are in jeopardy.[19][20]

Of 368 Navy and Marine Corps personnel taken prisoner, 77 (21%) died in captivity.[21] Captain Rooks received posthumously the Medal of Honor for his actions.[5] Chaplain George S. Rentz, who had surrendered his life jacket to a younger sailor after finding himself in the water, was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross. He was the only Navy Chaplain to be so honored during World War II.

The crew of Houston is honored alongside that of Perth at the Shrine of Remembrance in Melbourne, Australia, and also in St John's Anglican Church, Fremantle.

 

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I'd still rather see a line so that premiums have a point, but really any of the CV's the Germans designed and started working on converting (there was more than just GZ). But barring a tree, depending on tiering I'd like to see "Aquilla" with German colours as a premium outside her appearance in an Italian CV tree.

 

I'd like to see one I went over that's a slight alteration into a what if - USS Shangri-La. But as a stock Essex (so tier 8) with P-51's and PBJ-H (B-25H) bombers based on her testing of these aircraft for carrier use (The PBJ passed, the P-51 passed but wasn't recommended in it's current configuration but well, game). They didn't continue with it because land bases opened up so the need for long range escorts and bombers launching from a carrier to hit the Japanese Mainland. But I'd like to see the twist on what if they had continued that plan. Plus the ship it self is an oddity in naming, as she was named for the fictional city FDR named as the launching point of the Doolittle Raid. On which note -

 

USS Hornet in Doolittle raid configuration - 4 groups of 4 bombers with 500 pound bombs (with a slight reserve mirroring the original extra aircraft) and 2 fighter squadrons + reserves (her fighters were below decks). Maybe given they were also packing incendiaries maybe give the bombs a higher fire chance. Likely better at attacking BB's and some cruisers (better protected than single engine Navy bombers, but a bit less accurate all things considered), game mechanics would allow the planes to land which would be the only real deviation from history (aside from attacking ships) but again, it's a game, one of those things were stretching history isn't that bad an idea. 

 

USS Philadelphia - My bias being from the area and history aside - While Brooklyn Class will likely make it to the game eventually in a tech tree cruiser split (it was the genesis of all the USN cruisers of the second world war, or at least most of them). I think it'd be interesting to pull this for it's history and make use of a slight quirk Cleveland doesn't. The info I've found is that while Cleveland likely had this option as well, it had the option of using it's main battery in an AA capacity, albeit some what limited as indications are the triples could only max out at 60 degrees, only the duals on Fargo class were considered truly DP guns, but have that be maybe it has a limited outermost aura of AA and a inner gap it can't fire in with those as well as 8x 5 inch single guns not sure if WG counts the /25 as a DP, 6 quad, 2 twin 40 mm and 18 single 20 mm guns. Least in her 1945 outfit though as I look at the game and see that all the USN cruiser AA for Cleveland and Pensacola appears to be wrong in many wthways, especially when one of those eviscerates airplanes already I'm not sure what tier I'd put it at. Possibly 7 given the extra main battery and all or some early outfit that has not quite as much in the mid-short range. Though looking into this I really think we do need to look more into that heavy/light split for USN and shuffle some tiers.

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HMS Canada (cause I'm a Canadian).

A Tribal class DD (in Brit DD line?)

HMCS Uganda ( a Cdn CL)

Fra: Bearn (CV)

Ita: Aquila (CV)

Ger: Graf Zeppelin (CV)

A  Brit CV (from a Brit CV line)

A Rus BB (from a Rus BB line)

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HMS Canada (cause I'm a Canadian).

A Tribal class DD (in Brit DD line?)

HMCS Uganda ( a Cdn CL)

Fra: Bearn (CV)

Ita: Aquila (CV)

Ger: Graf Zeppelin (CV)

A  Brit CV (from a Brit CV line)

A Rus BB (from a Rus BB line)

 

You are aware HMS Canada literally had nothing to do with Canada, right? 

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Haida at Tier V? Now that's something I can get on board with :trollface:

 

Ok, seriously, I know people make jokes about Canadians and Seal clubbers, but that's just way to much! :D

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The only three premiums that would excite me at this point are...

 

USS Ohio (US pre-dreadnaught BB)

USS Johnston (Fletcher class US DD)

Graf Zepplin (German CV)

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