The Enterprise Is a Start, But The Yorktown Class Should Be In The Tech Tree

[Captain_Doll]

If you read any naval history book that covers the pacific war, there are three USN ships you will always read about: Yorktown, Hornet, and Enterprise. These three CVs held the line against the Japanese naval advance until early 1943. The Enterprise went on to become the highest decorated USN ship in WWII.

 

Players will soon be able to purchase the Enterprise. However, I have difficultly understanding why WG did not implement Yorktown class into the tech tree. Instead, we have the Ranger, a CV that was never a front line ship in WWII.

 

If, and when, WG decides to overhaul the CV line, they should implement the Yorktown class at either tier 7 or tier 8. Lexington's air wings can be reworked to fit into tier 7 much like the Kaga has been. Ranger really shouldn't be in the tech tree and was never a match for the Hiryu in real life.

[iHaveNoIntelligence]

2nd CV tree to USN and IJN is theoretically possible.

[ryuukei8569]

Yorktown can come in if wargamign introduces a second US CV tree. What this tree would do, whom knows exactly what, but its pretty easily doable. A Second US CV tree could have Wasp as the T7 and Yorktown as T8, and probably random paper designs for T9 and 10.

[bacononaboat]

Eh I see what you're saying. It's a really tough call between sexy Lexy and Yorktown because tbh Yorktown is a half step between Lexington and Essex. At least, that's how it is in game - in real life there were a ton of technological improvements in Yorktown but you don't see them in game because this isn't a simulator, which is ok. Yorktown is certainly more famous as a ship class, that's for sure. Ultimately I agree with the call that Ranger is for sure a T7 carrier. I could see a light carrier/escort carrier line for the USA but...I mean what's the point? They don't fit well, especially in high tier.

[MrDeaf]

can we fix CVs before adding anymore?

I mean, it would look less incompetent if the new line didn't get overhauled right after release.

[bacononaboat]

can we fix CVs before adding anymore?

I mean, it would look less incompetent if the new line didn't get overhauled right after release.

 

Amen to that 

[Uber_Ghost]

can we fix CVs before adding anymore?

I mean, it would look less incompetent if the new line didn't get overhauled right after release.

 

It doesn't help that the Enterprise triggers almost everyone I've watched test it.  Apart from the inherent CV gameplay issues already in existence, adding tier 7 planes to a tier 8 CV...even with an increased hanger size...is just...awful.  All it really means is you have more planes for the Reds to shoot down.  It might work for a pure tier 8 setting, but when you're facing tier 10's?  I saw a Gearing simultaneously wipe out two torpedo squadrons by himself.  

 

The ship will sell because it's the Enterprise, perhaps the most famous CV of all.  In reality, the USN CV line is the gold standard of all CV's.  But, is it wise to sell something so iconic..the crown jewel of the USN CV line...which leaves such a bitter taste in one's mouth?  I do not play CV's.  I haven't even tried them, although I've always wanted to.  I even unlocked the IJN line.  But, once I did my research on them, it became apparent that the game play wasn't a reasonable substitute for any other line.  I'd still like to try them, and will continue watching them on Twitch.  But, I'll wait until it's something that appeals to me...and it hasn't yet.  I hope it does one day, I really do.

[Mesrith]

Please.  Let's have non-terrible USN carriers, and more functional carrier gameplay in general, before we demand more carriers in the game.

[MrDeaf]

 

It doesn't help that the Enterprise triggers almost everyone I've watched test it.  Apart from the inherent CV gameplay issues already in existence, adding tier 7 planes to a tier 8 CV...even with an increased hanger size...is just...awful.  All it really means is you have more planes for the Reds to shoot down.  It might work for a pure tier 8 setting, but when you're facing tier 10's?  I saw a Gearing simultaneously wipe out two torpedo squadrons by himself.  

 

The ship will sell because it's the Enterprise, perhaps the most famous CV of all.  In reality, the USN CV line is the gold standard of all CV's.  But, is it wise to sell something so iconic..the crown jewel of the USN CV line...which leaves such a bitter taste in one's mouth?  I do not play CV's.  I haven't even tried them, although I've always wanted to.  I even unlocked the IJN line.  But, once I did my research on them, it became apparent that the game play wasn't a reasonable substitute for any other line.  I'd still like to try them, and will continue watching them on Twitch.  But, I'll wait until it's something that appeals to me...and it hasn't yet.  I hope it does one day, I really do.

 

I'm not saying WG ran out of unique ideas at two premium carriers, but they ran out of ideas for premium carriers.

 

Saipan: overtiered planes, small hangar capacity

Kaga: undertiered planes, large hangar capacity

Enterprise (thus far): undertiered planes, large hangar capacity

 

And... oh, look... am I seeing double vision or does it look like we are seeing a repeated premium gimmick already?

[renegadestatuz]

 

It doesn't help that the Enterprise triggers almost everyone I've watched test it.  Apart from the inherent CV gameplay issues already in existence, adding tier 7 planes to a tier 8 CV...even with an increased hanger size...is just...awful.  All it really means is you have more planes for the Reds to shoot down.  It might work for a pure tier 8 setting, but when you're facing tier 10's?  I saw a Gearing simultaneously wipe out two torpedo squadrons by himself.  

 

The ship will sell because it's the Enterprise, perhaps the most famous CV of all.  In reality, the USN CV line is the gold standard of all CV's.  But, is it wise to sell something so iconic..the crown jewel of the USN CV line...which leaves such a bitter taste in one's mouth?  I do not play CV's.  I haven't even tried them, although I've always wanted to.  I even unlocked the IJN line.  But, once I did my research on them, it became apparent that the game play wasn't a reasonable substitute for any other line.  I'd still like to try them, and will continue watching them on Twitch.  But, I'll wait until it's something that appeals to me...and it hasn't yet.  I hope it does one day, I really do.

Hmmmm

[JinghisKhan]

 

I'm not saying WG ran out of unique ideas at two premium carriers, but they ran out of ideas for premium carriers.

 

Saipan: overtiered planes, small hangar capacity

Kaga: undertiered planes, large hangar capacity

Enterprise (thus far): undertiered planes, large hangar capacity

 

And... oh, look... am I seeing double vision or does it look like we are seeing a repeated premium gimmick already?

 

Pretty much. The Enterprise gets hit harder because she can be uptiered into Tier X games with her Tier VII airplanes, which basically melt away at a single touch. I'd prefer for her just have same-tier aircraft but with a slightly smaller hangar size-her benefit is her squadron compositions.

[Faerkhan]

Maybe they should do something unique and give the big E fighter-bombers or something? (think fast DBs with low bomb damage but can actually defend themselves? Downsides would be the low damage and not having 3 plane type options.

 

[AdmiralMudkip]

Maybe they should do something unique and give the big E fighter-bombers or something? (think fast DBs with low bomb damage but can actually defend themselves? Downsides would be the low damage and not having 3 plane type options.

 

 

I think they said something along the lines of they're not ready yet. :/  

 

But the big thing is the exponential AA they can face on Tiers 9 and 10. Not only that, but the gimmicky torpedo drop makes it unreliable for damage.