After tomorrow, I'll be leaving the forum community

[BURN_Miner]

This is with regards to this post here. In that long winded post, I laid out what I have seen over the past few months, why I felt that way and what "might" had occurred. My reasoning behind it has neither agenda, bias, ship/country type perspective etc., just a simple love of the game.

 

The post in the link also has stream numbers with dates to help back my reasoning.

 

Anyway, I've met a lot of good people on here, even the ones I disagreed with. But like I said in the link above, I feel the game has been put on the back burner as their development talent has been reallocated elsewhere. So with that, I am putting the game on the back burner as well. This is not a "rage quit" post not even an "I'm leaving" post, gaming time is already low due to health issues, so it is what it is. But after tomorrow, as stated in the link above, I am taking all of my WoWS stuff off my toolbar and I will no longer be posting and I will no longer be financially "whaling" so to speak. Though the financial aspect has been for awhile now ever since I started seeing the writing on the wall.

 

Take care all, best of luck

 

Miner

[Edgecase]

Development and other team member churn is a normal part of any long-term online game. I wouldn't read too far into it.

 

That said, if you find that the churn has resulted in an environment you find less desirable, then it's perfectly reasonable to change your playing and purchasing habits.

 

Best of luck to you, and well wishes for your health situation to allow you more gaming time in the future.

[renegadestatuz]

Your link post stated a lack of weekly streams from the devs? Niko and Trevzor and now also TragicLoss do weekly streams, every Friday. Sometimes they also do streams on other days as well. But they do streams every week. Or did I just completely misread that part you had posted?

[anonym_OlK73e329bMY]

It's odd that you post this on the day that they release a whole bunch of new stuff, isn't it?

[Terrible_Turtle]

Bismarck Campaign
New PvE Operations

French CA/CL Line

German DD Line

Recent News of RN BB Line

Clash of Elements

Constant balance changes 

 

I might be missing your point, but they don't appear to be just sitting on their arses. If things are getting stale for you, I suspect the newness of the game has just worn off. It happens with everything. 

 

The biggest things I'd like to see are CV improvements and Clan battles. Both of those are major fixes though and will take time.

 

Good luck in your other endeavors! o7

 

 

[Canadatron]

I'm pretty much over WOWS for the moment myself. I've managed 2 games in 2 weeks with little desire to sink more time into it. The game is no better/different/balanced than it was a year ago. 

 

I've got premium time until December, 23 Premium shop ships so I've certainly invested myself but the changes have just sucked the fun out. The vision changes really was the last nail in the coffin. The OWSF change was needed but the moronic vision/bloom changes did it.

Fair seas BURN.

[MrDeaf]

The operations are pretty fun.

[Wowzery]

Not sure I'm understanding either.  Did you have a solid concise point in your rambling?

[TheDreadnought]

1)  Have you really only been here since 2015?  You just got here, now you're making a big deal over leaving?
 

2)  All this angst over one developer being reassigned?

 

3)  Clearly we're still getting new content.  We just got missions.  RN BBs (something people have been dying for) are on the way.  If Team Battles/Clans are not materializing, maybe its because they're not in high demand?  I certainly don't care about them.  Furthermore I think "e-sporting" the game is what killed WOT.  I certainly hope they don't make the same mistake with Warships.

 

4)  Seems like much ado about nothing to me.

[anonym_OlK73e329bMY]

I'm pretty much over WOWS for the moment myself. I've managed 2 games in 2 weeks with little desire to sink more time into it. The game is no better/different/balanced than it was a year ago. 

 

I've got premium time until December, 23 Premium shop ships so I've certainly invested myself but the changes have just sucked the fun out. The vision changes really was the last nail in the coffin. The OWSF change was needed but the moronic vision/bloom changes did it.

Fair seas BURN.

 

Just take a break and come back in a few weeks (or months). Trust me.

[KaptainKaybe]

This game has new and updated content VERY regularly. More so than pretty much any other online game I've played this many years into release.

 

If you feel it's not enough ... well, sorry man. Move on, I guess.

[AspiringCodger]

I just posted a version of this on the other one, but I think it's great the topic posted right after this is a guy complaining there are too many updates.

[aethervox]

It wasn't just 'e-sporting' that has killed WoT. It is the whole map fiasco (& WoT did that to themselves) - 'Seppuku' anyone? LOL

[Wowzery]

One of the biggest problems with games, or anything, is you can't please everyone.  If WG changed to suit the OP, it would tick off someone else who would leave.  And there is a problem, and solution.  Realize they can't please everyone, and sit back, and just enjoy the game.  I've been playing since Sept/2015 and still enjoy sinking enemy ships.

One thing I do like about WoWS, is even as its now approaching 2 years, the developers are still working, there is still an active group, unlike some other MMOs I've played over the years.

[aethervox]

I applaud OP's decision. At least, he is not 'brainwashed' into defending everything WoWs does, like so many of the Circus 'Seals' do.

[anonym_OlK73e329bMY]

I applaud OP's decision. At least, he is not 'brainwashed' into defending everything WoWs does, like so many of the Circus 'Seals' do.

 

No need to reference me in your post. (｡ŏ﹏ŏ)

[SweetRollThief]

This is with regards to this post here. In that long winded post, I laid out what I have seen over the past few months, why I felt that way and what "might" had occurred. My reasoning behind it has neither agenda, bias, ship/country type perspective etc., just a simple love of the game.

 

The post in the link also has stream numbers with dates to help back my reasoning.

 

Anyway, I've met a lot of good people on here, even the ones I disagreed with. But like I said in the link above, I feel the game has been put on the back burner as their development talent has been reallocated elsewhere. So with that, I am putting the game on the back burner as well. This is not a "rage quit" post not even an "I'm leaving" post, gaming time is already low due to health issues, so it is what it is. But after tomorrow, as stated in the link above, I am taking all of my WoWS stuff off my toolbar and I will no longer be posting and I will no longer be financially "whaling" so to speak. Though the financial aspect has been for awhile now ever since I started seeing the writing on the wall.

 

Take care all, best of luck

 

Miner

Yes it is. 

 

[Sturmkurz]

They still seem pretty active, they can't put out an update as often as you might want. They still got a lot of things to fix and add, heck, not all of the ships they probably want to put in are even here yet.(i.E Royal Navy BBs and Italian Ships). They still have a lot of head of them.

[Cobraclutch]

Good luck Miner. 

 

I hope your cargo hold brims with Veldspar and your mining lasers burn true. 

 

o7

[Parliament_Funkadelic]

Best of luck to you, however, I've found that most come back sooner or later (referencing my nerd rage quitting 10 different times in Warcraft)...Take a breather, come back refreshed when you can. If you don't well good for you. I've been told there are better ways to spend time than video games, but I don't believe that!

 

Take care! 

[Cruxdei]

It wasn't just 'e-sporting' that has killed WoT. It is the whole map fiasco (& WoT did that to themselves) - 'Seppuku' anyone? LOL

 

exactly,now they are trying to fix the damage at a snail pace with "HD maps"

[anonym_OlK73e329bMY]

I uninstalled today after the patch. I hadn't played at all for weeks, gone to forums, or really done anything Wargaming related. I played a bunch of other games and I gotta be honest, come back with semi-fresh eyes, I was aghast at how poorly built this product is. Go play Fractured Space and then this one, and you'll be shocked at the quality difference, especially in balancing. No ship in FS feels overpowered. Forget is or isn't, none of them even *feel* overpowered. The gameplay encourages dynamic play. The devs of this game would do wise to spend a few hours screwing around in FS, as I suspect *that* is the gameplay they want here. And I'll spoil the reason why that game works better: spike damage is super rare/situational. And ironically, the very thing they seem to fear the most, games taking the full 20 minutes, takes place *because* of their lazy reliance on spike damage. It makes players cagey. Whereas the lack of spike damage in FS (coupled with respawns) makes people, shocker, less concerned about getting into a close in fight.

 

I was really excited for PvE stuff when it was teased half a year ago, then announced months ago, but Wargaming's bad decisions, no one else's mind you, Wargaming's, have worn me down to where I tried it once on live this morning and lost interest within 2 minutes of it starting. I don't want to play their game anymore. I don't want them to make money off of me. I don't want to add to the player count or match count and let them think what they are doing. At this point I really hope this game fails. That the servers get shut down and a huge exodus of players leave the game. Not out of petty rage towards Wargaming, I don't know them after all, but because I am genuinely concerned the rest of the game's industry will see what Wargaming does, the disturbing monetization practices (selling, many times a year, single pieces of DLC in excess of $50 is something even EA and Activision DON'T do), creating false scarcity of products, and whether you agree or not, yes, fosdtering a pay to win enviroement. I think it would behove those that disagree with that last fact to go try another game at length that's FTP, be it FS, or TF2, or something else easy to get into. Do that for a few weeks. Do not TOUCH WoWs, or WoWPs, or WoTs, not one inch, don't come on the forums, don't read news, for at least 2 weeks, and come back here. You will very quickly realize this is a pay-to-win game. For example: FS is not pay to win. At all. No real money can spent in a way, at all, in *any* way, to alter in game stats. You can buy ships, all, and I mean *all* of which are available for in game currency, you can buy skins, which have 0 gameplay effect *other* than aesthetics, you can buy crew pods/implants, both of which can be bought, in the in game store no less, for in game money as well. *THAT* is non-p2w. This game? You can buy skins that make you stealthier, you can buy ships that are outright better than their tree counterpart (Atago, Kutz, Tirpitz now, and many, MANY others). That's pay 2 win. You can obscucate on this and give me [edited]on, "Well in blah blah blah hands," but lets all be honest with ourselves for a moment: there is a reason why people accuse *this* game of P2W, but no one has ever even mentioned that in the same district of say, TF2, likewise a game where money can *only* be spent on cosmetics, and any weapon that can be purchased can also be found and/or crafted in game totally 100% for free. 

 

And all of this aside the biggest issue that has finally driven me to uninstall and clean the registry; the game is just poorly made. Tiering was a mistake, as it makes balance, it makes *their* job, infinity higher. This game is textbook, quantity over quality, it's McDonalds in game form. Instead of balancing the game around a core group of ships, like FS does, where all can see all, and thus all have to be useful and balanced against each other, they wanted the whole store, and the result is a ghastly mess. And beyond that, it extends into the aforementioned lazy mechanics. Spike damage is the lazy game developer difficulty. In an SP game, it's signs of lazy artificial difficulty. In an MP game it's sign of a "[edited]-it" attitude towards balance. If everyone kills everyone else in 1 hit, well, balance kinda goes out the window right? No reason to waste a breath on that. The only balance decisions that exist are *how* easy or how hard it is to get/resist that 1 hit kill. Instead of proper damage scaling, mechanics, intelligence, buffs/debuffs, or a multitude of other things to challenge the player they feel back on the 'tried and true' method of, 'aim here to win.' It is *incredibly* boring to play that, and taking a break just highlighted that to me all the more glaringly.

 

And you may call it whining, and say good riddance. Okay. But I was a warship fanatic before most of the developers were born, I have voluptuous disposable income, and lots of free time. I am supposed to be *exactly* who is supposed to keep this game afloat, and it's *their* decisions that have pushed me away into the hands of their *competitors.* Not only did they lose my business, but I am actively supporting companies that would see them go out of business if they could. That is probably not a good thing. I don't have an MBA... oh wait I do have an MBA. Yeah, if I'm leaving, others will be leaving too. Because bad business practices sour the relationship. And I've spent, ~$150 in this game so far on various ships and gold, and port slots. And played ~7000 games in total. I very much was *supporting* this game with both time and money; no more. I was ready to buy the Hood, regardless of it's stats, but they decided to pull an INSULTING release strategy, so I didn't buy any. That is just *one* of many examples of their behavior costing them money. I was ready to buy the thing, but their money grubbing, greedy attitude actually COST them a sale. And their contemptuous, predator like, "Well we'll get those who don't have patience to wait," is insulting. The most amazing thing is players defend wargaming's behavior. Like a multi-million dollars company needs some pissant on the internet to defend them from another pissant on the internet. Wargaming isn't you friend, they aren't on your side. They describe you in terms of, "Whales, dolphins, and minoes," they are you pusher, and your buying it. The cognitive dissonance, the shilling for this company is staggering, when they have done nothing to earn such defenders. They have repeatedly and regularly spit in your face and your only response is, "Please sir may I have some more." It would be funny if it wasn't so disconcerting. The video game industry is about to go through a crash and you, in conjunction with Wargaming, are the *reason* it's about to happen. And those too young to remember the last crash will do well the heed that warning: it wasn't fun. And neither is this game. Good riddance to bad tidings and I look forward to your corporate obituary when one of your competitors finally realizes what a cash cow this sector of the industry is. 

 

There was some serious feeling in there.

 

You know, I wouldn't be so drawn to WoWs if it weren't for the culture and history behind the ships. There's so much there. If there is ever another game that has that and also superior mechanics (and other stuff too) I would in all likeliness make my way over there. Until then, well, um, I'll give Fractured Space a try - probably. It looks kind of interesting, though I've never been a fan of futuristic settings.

[Wowzery]

I uninstalled today after the patch. I hadn't played at all for weeks, gone to forums, or really done anything Wargaming related. I played a bunch of other games and I gotta be honest, come back with semi-fresh eyes, I was aghast at how poorly built this product is.

 

Sorry, but the developers could have 'fixed' it for you, and people would still complain.  I've seen no game where you didn't have someone complain.

I'm am curious as to how WoWS is pay to win?  What ship is so OP that it always wins?  A large rant, yet you only gave opinions on your emotions.

[CaptainTeddybear]

 ever since I started seeing the writing on the wall.

 

Miner

 

If you can be a little more specific there is a chance some of the things you have issues with will eventually get fixed.

[Herr_Reitz]

Good luck and all the best for your future endeavors, whatever and wherever they may be!