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I've heard form recent videos form iChase and Notser that RN BB could be receiving radar. I would just like to put my opinion into the mix and say I think this is a terrible idea. What I've seen from German BB with hydro, it made them very aggressive and possibly hard to counter them with DD. I'm concerned that Destroyers will lose even more power against BB and that new lines will be too focused around niches in there gameplay.

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I've heard form recent videos form iChase and Notser that RN BB could be receiving radar.

 

Nah...they don't need radar.

Their 10km hydro will do just fine.

 

All said, let's not forget it was RN radar that contributed to DoY killing Scharn.  And it was RN radar that gave RN advantages over Italy.  Granted, Radar in WOWS isn't used in its traditional role.  

 

Then again, the smoke meta is kinda crazy these days.

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Hope so, screw the Destroyers. 

 

Oh no, god forbid someone playing a knife edge stealth class be capable of playing stealthily.

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Oh no, god forbid someone playing a knife edge stealth class be capable of playing stealthily.

 

This! And then RN BBs will flood the server, and the Devs will say "Too many BBs in the matches!" .... and then they will nerf DDs in some new and hitherto unimagined way. Because BBs are too many....

 

I don't even understand why WG bothered to make DDs, it obviously hates them.

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The reason why german BBs are so scary to DDs is not their Hydro, but their murderous secondaries.

 

The RN BBs, from what has been revealed so far, have in fact really poor secondaries (not counting Warspite's), which makes their Radar only useful when teaming up with cruisers and destroyers to attack a spotted DD. Alone, that Radar really won't help the BB all that much.

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The reason why german BBs are so scary to DDs is not their Hydro, but their murderous secondaries.

 

The RN BBs, from what has been revealed so far, have in fact really poor secondaries (not counting Warspite's), which makes their Radar only useful when teaming up with cruisers and destroyers to attack a spotted DD. Alone, that Radar really won't help the BB all that much.

 

It's not about the BB itself having radar.  It's the notion of a radar platform that cannot be easily deleted like a Radar Cruiser.  It's the same idea of the Missouri pushing in just far enough to pop radar on smoked threats.  Missouri herself isn't going to do anything outside her initial main battery salvo after popping radar.  Her secondaries are also garbage.  The real danger is the other ships behind her that will pile on their gunfire once she spots those targets.  Unless Missouri is sailing broadside for people to citadel the s--t out of her, she is going to take the fire but the radar use will make life unpleasant for anyone concealed in her range.

 

The normal procedure when you see a Radar Cruiser trying to get in range to use radar is simply to delete it.  It isn't hard.  But a BB?  A BB will take that punishment far better.

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I've heard form recent videos form iChase and Notser that RN BB could be receiving radar. I would just like to put my opinion into the mix and say I think this is a terrible idea. What I've seen from German BB with hydro, it made them very aggressive and possibly hard to counter them with DD. I'm concerned that Destroyers will lose even more power against BB and that new lines will be too focused around niches in there gameplay.

 

There was a leak suggesting they might be trying it. As Sub_Octavian posted on reddit, they try a bunch of different loadouts when designing a ship line and pretty much nothing is actually decided right now.

 

They might get radar, they might get attack chickens. Right now, who knows.

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There was a leak suggesting they might be trying it. As Sub_Octavian posted on reddit, they try a bunch of different loadouts when designing a ship line and pretty much nothing is actually decided right now.

 

They might get radar, they might get attack chickens. Right now, who knows.

 

They gave Hood Defensive Fire.

 

But long before that, they gave Tier VIII+ German BBs Hydro.

 

Then Premium Missouri rolls out with Radar.

 

It would not surprise me at this point if RN BBs get something like, "Tier VIII+ ones get Radar."  WG's intent has been handing out Cruiser utility to BBs for a while now.

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My thought is that hydro and even radar are fine.  What needs to go is the 10km range like we see in the Missouri.  Most ships have about 4-5km radar.  The Missouri has 10km.... which is what makes it so devastating.  Its three free 'light up the map' presses each battle.  Since the Missouri is only one ship and hard to get, I don't think its game breaking now.  It will be game breaking if there becomes several long range radar/hydro BBs.  It will change the DD meta significantly and make them less likely to cap or push.

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It's not about the BB itself having radar.  It's the notion of a radar platform that cannot be easily deleted like a Radar Cruiser.  It's the same idea of the Missouri pushing in just far enough to pop radar on smoked threats.  Missouri herself isn't going to do anything outside her initial main battery salvo after popping radar.  Her secondaries are also garbage.  The real danger is the other ships behind her that will pile on their gunfire once she spots those targets.  Unless Missouri is sailing broadside for people to citadel the s--t out of her, she is going to take the fire but the radar use will make life unpleasant for anyone concealed in her range.

 

The normal procedure when you see a Radar Cruiser trying to get in range to use radar is simply to delete it.  It isn't hard.  But a BB?  A BB will take that punishment far better.

 

Only time Missouri's radar has been useful to me is on Two Brothers, for seeing into the gap or around corners.

 

"Then you're not using it right!" Yeah; whatever; it's not often that I don't already know where anything that might hurt me is, if I'm already close enough to use radar.

 

Idiot in a destroyer or RN cruiser wants to get close and smoke up to HE/AP spam? Just about the only other circumstance where it's been useful.

 

My thought is that hydro and even radar are fine.  What needs to go is the 10km range like we see in the Missouri.  Most ships have about 4-5km radar.  The Missouri has 10km.... which is what makes it so devastating.  Its three free 'light up the map' presses each battle.  Since the Missouri is only one ship and hard to get, I don't think its game breaking now.  It will be game breaking if there becomes several long range radar/hydro BBs.  It will change the DD meta significantly and make them less likely to cap or push.

 

Really? Must be nice getting enemies who try to push against radar ships; all of the one who know how to deal with it seem to be in many of the games I play.

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I wouldn't mind them having American range and Russian duration if it's confined to T8 and upwards at least.

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They might get radar, they might get attack chickens. Right now, who knows.

 

I want a ship with attack chickens!:izmena:

 

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I'm pretty sure it would only be the T10 and maybe the T9 too. 

 

Radar on a battleship would only be OP if it were a brawler battleship. Otherwise, on medium-long range BBs like Mo, the radar is only useful to the team, and not to the battleship itself. Which encourages teamwork!

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It's not about the BB itself having radar.  It's the notion of a radar platform that cannot be easily deleted like a Radar Cruiser.  It's the same idea of the Missouri pushing in just far enough to pop radar on smoked threats.  Missouri herself isn't going to do anything outside her initial main battery salvo after popping radar.  Her secondaries are also garbage.  The real danger is the other ships behind her that will pile on their gunfire once she spots those targets.  Unless Missouri is sailing broadside for people to citadel the s--t out of her, she is going to take the fire but the radar use will make life unpleasant for anyone concealed in her range.

 

Thank you for explaining my view :)

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I honestly don't think WG needs to give them any kind of consumable other than the normal BB consumables of cat fighters, repair, and damage control. I don't understand why some people feel they need a consumable to be special at all. It's the Royal [edited]Navy battleship line. I'm sure a line like this being made gimmicky will only hurt the game more than it would help it.

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I can't wait to see what kind of gimmick Russian paper BBs will get. Probably the "would-be" levitator. Allows them to fly over islands. Also, on T8+, the cloaking tech. Both were used by the Russian Navy in 2029, after they copied an American design. Thus, it's obvious that if built these ships would eventually be refitted with this tech.

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Stuff like Radar and Hydro is one of many reasons I main RU DDs. They already don't give a fiddler's fart about being spotted and a ship with Radar gets burned just as easily as ones without. With all the Radar and hydro on CAs and even BBs stealth torpedo boats are getting increasingly rare from what I've seeb. Ever seen a game with 7 RU DDs per side? Yea. Ever seen one with 7 IJN or USN DDs? Me neither 

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I want a ship with attack chickens!:izmena:

 

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Will this work?

 

Couldn't find any on ships sadly.

 

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I dont play DDs, I do play a lot of BBs, but I'm a bit uneasy with this precedence. Can we not continue adding stuff to discourage aggressive DD play? I find a bit annoying now when more often friendly DDs are so very skittish now at scouting ahead. 

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How about give them extra health and no heal... with a faster repair plus hydro and choice of aircraft consumable.

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