0 damage pen...

[_Dracarys]

seriously, why does 0 damage pen exist in this game? call it a bounce or shatter, i dont care. this is effing annoying...

 

reminds me of 0 damage critical hit in world of tanks, they fixed that a long time ago.

[Lert]

When your shell penetrates an external module that doesn't affect the hull's hitpoints.

[anonym_OlK73e329bMY]

Yea, it's a little disappointing thinking you did damage when you really didn't. I'm always like.. "Oh ok."

[AVR_Project]

Like shooting AP at the tier 5 French criuiser... using the SAME French cruiser.    All overpens -- 20 hits - zero damage.

[VVoony]

Sometimes it could have 0 damage because the section you have hit has its hp pool completely drained already.

I did have some cases where I think that wasnt the case though..

Each section of the ship has its own internal hp pool.

For example if the bow section hp pool is drained completely, shooting shells and hitting torpedoes on that section will do 0 damage

[anonym_OlK73e329bMY]

Sometimes it could have 0 damage because the section you have hit has its hp pool completely drained already.

I did have some cases where I think that wasnt the case though..

Each section of the ship has its own internal hp pool.

For example if the bow section hp pool is drained completely, shooting shells and hitting torpedoes on that section will do 0 damage

 

SERIOUSLY??

[Cruxdei]

basically my most hated mechanic besides ciclone mode.

[VVoony]

 

SERIOUSLY??

 

 

 

yes, iChase has detail explanation of this in one of his videos:

 

 

[Krautjaeger]

Sometimes it could have 0 damage because the section you have hit has its hp pool completely drained already.

I did have some cases where I think that wasnt the case though..

Each section of the ship has its own internal hp pool.

For example if the bow section hp pool is drained completely, shooting shells and hitting torpedoes on that section will do 0 damage

 

^^ This. There is a video somewhere, and an animated gif made from it, where a DD takes a load of torpedoes aft and doesn't sink. Dev's have talked about this at some point as well.

[More_Witches]

 

reminds me of 0 damage critical hit in world of tanks, they fixed that a long time ago.

last time I checked, you can still crit tracks, gun barrels, and vision ports w/o dealing actual damage to the tank

[injunmick]

If it penetrates, how the hell is it not damage? A 5" hole at the water line is not damage? A 14" hole in the bridge is not damage?  etc., etc..  I dont get it either.

[renegadestatuz]

 

SERIOUSLY??

Yes. It's called damage saturation.

[Helstrem]

If it penetrates, how the hell is it not damage? A 5" hole at the water line is not damage? A 14" hole in the bridge is not damage?  etc., etc..  I dont get it either.

 

It can, for example, penetrate an AA mount and nothing else.  That will destroy the AA mount, but would not otherwise affect the ship's survivability.

[Cruxdei]

If it penetrates, how the hell is it not damage? A 5" hole at the water line is not damage? A 14" hole in the bridge is not damage?  etc., etc..  I dont get it either.

 

the mechanic where "holes start to become damages" don't exist i think,or else every shell landing near the water and hitting the hull would flood the ship in the long run.

 

SUPER FUN

[More_Witches]

If it penetrates, how the hell is it not damage? A 5" hole at the water line is not damage? A 14" hole in the bridge is not damage?  etc., etc..  I dont get it either.

 

10 5" holes in a funnel aren't going to sink a ship

 

Repeated damage to a part of the ship that's already combat-ineffective can't make that part less combat-ineffective, I suppose

[VVoony]

If it penetrates, how the hell is it not damage? A 5" hole at the water line is not damage? A 14" hole in the bridge is not damage?  etc., etc..  I dont get it either.

 

 

I think the logic behind is this:

 

 

In real life, shell fires and torpedoes don't really sink the ship. Yes it kills people and it destroys the super structure which reduces combat effectiveness and all that but, a ship can withstand surprising numbers of shells. That is until the water compartments get penetrated and flooding starts to break off. and slowly the ship sinks because of all the waters flooding. This is why torpedoes are so extremely dangerous. They blow up underneath the waterline.

[RipNuN2]

 

^^ This. There is a video somewhere, and an animated gif made from it, where a DD takes a load of torpedoes aft and doesn't sink. Dev's have talked about this at some point as well.

 

Here ya go 

 

[SullyQuindarius]

 

SERIOUSLY??

 

Nah lol... Well, for HE. But not AP. I've never had or seen a section so saturated that HE no longer does damage though...

[Admiral_Franz_von_Hipper]

Real-life example of the damage saturation mechanic:

 

 

 

 

As you can see, even if you shot at where the bow should be, you wouldn't cause any more significant damage.

[AVR_Project]

There is a bit of RNG in there.

Yes, I've seen 'damage saturation', but it's not a guarantee.

I was riding a North Carolina that took 4 torpedo hits to the tail - exact same place over 2 minutes.  With each hit went down from full health to being SUNK on the 4th one.

I'm calling BULL on this one.

If you get hit, there is concussion.  There is shrapnel.  There is something in that section of the ship -- otherwise, it wouldn't be there.

Even if it's the USS Caine and you just shot out the locker filled with strawberries -- it's something.

[Krautjaeger]

Fun video, describes it all. Made by Panzerknacker clan, on EU.

 

 

Here ya go 

 

 

 

Yes! Thank you.

[anonym_OlK73e329bMY]

Yes. It's called damage saturation.

 

 

yes, iChase has detail explanation of this in one of his videos:

 

 

Thanks for the replies.

 

 

Nah lol... Well, for HE. But not AP. I've never had or seen a section so saturated that HE no longer does damage though...

 

So damage saturation doesn't happen with AP? That has to be why I'm not familiar with it then. I very rarely use HE or torpedoes.

[Skpstr]

 

 

Thanks for the replies.

 

 

So damage saturation doesn't happen with AP? That has to be why I'm not familiar with it then. I very rarely use HE or torpedoes.

 

I think it might. Pretty sure I can only bang away at a BB superstructure with CA guns for so long until the damage numbers start dropping.

[RipNuN2]

 

 

Thanks for the replies.

 

 

So damage saturation doesn't happen with AP? That has to be why I'm not familiar with it then. I very rarely use HE or torpedoes.

 

I think it might just be AP overpens as they always deal damage to the core HP of the ship and not the section.

[vonKaiser]

But what about no hit detonations?