Kaga Protected Matchmaking

[Spartias]

I enjoy the Kaga. She's a fun ship.

 

When you're at max against T8 AA, and not against a Saipan. However every other match is T9, with a Saipan.

 

I've never understood those that rage quit due to matchmaking until now. 

 

Kaga was a waste of a purchase. There's no fun involved when you're relegated to spotting and praying that your team can carry you to a win you don't deserve.

 

Until Kaga either gets protected matchmaking or at least T7 fighters, this thing will look beautiful and dusty in my port.

[goldeagle1123]

Part of the drawback of getting a ship that is insanely OP when downtiered. When you get uptiered, enjoy being useless. Consider it a down payment on the helpless tier 5 and 6 BBs you'll effortlessly delete when you get good MM.

 

So, no to protected MM.

[danredda1616]

Please no pretected MM in WoWS. Only ruined WoT MM. I would rather if they need to adjust something, they do...

[Spartias]

Part of the drawback of getting a ship that is insanely OP what downtiered. When you get uptiered, enjoy being useless. Consider it a down payment on the helpless tier 5 and 6 BBs you'll effortlessly delete when you get good MM.

 

So, no to protected MM.

 

 

Nah, T5 AA does just fine shredding planes. 

 

Having to fight Saipans is brutal enough. T9 AA is just ridiculous.

 

[Teahee]

While, as a Kaga owner, I would love this, the Kaga is already very strong (perhaps too strong?)

 

Even when bottom tier, the Kaga can still target enemy ships with weaker AA, or else resort to CV sniping. Kaga is a very rewarding CV to play, but she is also very punishing of errors. A poor selection of target, a delay in the drop, a careless flight through the AA of a cruiser; all these things are punished very heavily when playing the Kaga. 

 

In the last few hours of owning her, I have broken 200k damage numerous times, and collected a few clear skies medals along the way (including one game with 75 plane kills). Don't give up on the Kaga just yet, she isn't easy to play well, but if you can master the gameplay you can get some amazing results. 

[goldeagle1123]

Please no pretected MM in WoWS. Only ruined WoT MM. I would rather if they need to adjust something, they do...

 

I'd argue that it far from ruined WoT, some tanks legitimately needed it to be competitive, and I never had a problem with most of the tanks that had it. The problems started happening when WG started giving protected MM willy-nilly to tanks that blatantly did not need it, either through pure incompetence or them making a scumbag money grab. And finally after years of this the community had had it with protected MM, and WG brought that to an end. 

[Shoukaku_Kai_Ni]

WG wins, you already paid for it. Besides, you knew you were getting T6 planes which is balanced elsewhere.

[goldeagle1123]

 

 

Nah, T5 AA does just fine shredding planes. 

 

Having to fight Saipans is brutal enough. T9 AA is just ridiculous.

 

 

Please give me even a short list of ships at tier 5 that can shred tier 6 planes. Texas can shoot down a few planes, but she far from "shreds" them, and a couple beatings from your dive bombers or an ally hitting with with 20 or HE shells will substantially reduce her AA, Texas' AA mounts are extremely fragile.

[SireneRacker]

Kaga isn't out for 48 hours and we get the first requests for buffs? Seriously? Wait for two weeks, look up the server stats then make requests for nerfs/buffs.

[Carrier_Ikoma]

Kaga isn't out for 48 hours and we get the first requests for buffs? Seriously? Wait for two weeks, look up the server stats then make requests for nerfs/buffs.

 

On asia, which has had her for longer, her winrate is already below 50%...

 

Of course, ranger is 40%...

[Frank_Fourie]

Stop complaining about a CV monster like KAGA, that makes gameplay for other ships a pain in the [edited]. Two KAGA'S in one game makes it unplayable for us.It might be fun for you, Its not fun anymore when you get torped in the first 5 minutes in a dead slow battleship. You CV'S players hide in the corner like cowards out of any danger and just have your sick fun. Please dont try to convince me that there is any skill involved in CV gameplay, there is not. WG should not have introduced another CV. Weve had enough with the already existing CV'S. CV'S in WOW are like Arty in WOT. Wargaming should take note where ART'S were nerfed, thus making gameplay a pleasure to play again. I will not be playing WOW until they wake up and give us an even chance against unbalanced gameplay with cowardly CV'S.

They should be nerfed not buffed!!!!!

[SireneRacker]

On asia, which has had her for longer, her winrate is already below 50%...

 

Of course, ranger is 40%...

 

Asia is... asia (and I don't mean that in a negative way). Different metas, different players. I would wait for two weeks before requesting any changes, especially when I as a player didn't even get a chance to test the ship in a larger amount of battles than the OP with five battles in Kaga so far. That is by far not enough reference material.

[Oberarzt_U511]

Seeing Saipans in your Kaga is like karma for taking such an unbalanced ship out in the first place. Same story for T9 AA. 

[Warlord_Deadeye_Pete]

Kaga, the ship that makes Cleveland drivers have to actually work for a living... and pay attention to the torp bombers more carefully!

 

 

[hipcanuck]

Stop complaining about a CV monster like KAGA, that makes gameplay for other ships a pain in the [edited]. Two KAGA'S in one game makes it unplayable for us.It might be fun for you, Its not fun anymore when you get torped in the first 5 minutes in a dead slow battleship. You CV'S players hide in the corner like cowards out of any danger and just have your sick fun. Please dont try to convince me that there is any skill involved in CV gameplay, there is not. WG should not have introduced another CV. Weve had enough with the already existing CV'S. CV'S in WOW are like Arty in WOT. Wargaming should take note where ART'S were nerfed, thus making gameplay a pleasure to play again. I will not be playing WOW until they wake up and give us an even chance against unbalanced gameplay with cowardly CV'S.

They should be nerfed not buffed!!!!!

 

People like you make me want to buy it even more. CV's are NOT WoT arty in any way other than point of view. If you havent played a CV, you have no idea if skill is involved or not. The best way to understand the weaknesses of a class of ship (or tank) is to play it yourself.

 

Everyone knew Kaga would be in tough when uptiered, Enterprise will be no different. WG knows it screwed up with Saipan, I doubt we will see that type of setup again.

[Cpt_JM_Nascimento]

 

 

Nah, T5 AA does just fine shredding planes. 

 

Having to fight Saipans is brutal enough. T9 AA is just ridiculous.

 

 

If you are losing planes to a tier 5 ship with tier 6 planes the issue is not the ship and her planes, just saying u know it's the player, no offense.

The only one there who could give a headache in tier 5 is an AA spec Texas, but most of her AA is short ranged.

Also, the moment when u bought the ship u knew, or maybe not, that Kaga would lost almsot all her airwing during long battles. I have never seen a Kaga lose less than 40 planes in matches that are 20 mins long. Actually once, when the Kaga player in the enemy team refused to take off her planes due to enemy Saipan.

Even experienced CV players like iChase and Fem gets their planes wrecked during the battle even when they are cautious, but they easily can break the 200k damage because they know what they are doing (stuff like knowing what ships got their AA destroyed, who used repair party, who's alone, if someone is about to beach, where are the enemy fighters...).

 

Kaga has one of the highest skill ceiling in the game, if u want easy mode go for Saipan.

Sure i would struggle with Kaga against tier 9 ships + Saipan, since i'm just above average with CVs, but i would be patient before attacking.

[SullyQuindarius]

Stop complaining about a CV monster like KAGA, that makes gameplay for other ships a pain in the [edited]. Two KAGA'S in one game makes it unplayable for us.It might be fun for you, Its not fun anymore when you get torped in the first 5 minutes in a dead slow battleship. You CV'S players hide in the corner like cowards out of any danger and just have your sick fun. Please dont try to convince me that there is any skill involved in CV gameplay, there is not. WG should not have introduced another CV. Weve had enough with the already existing CV'S. CV'S in WOW are like Arty in WOT. Wargaming should take note where ART'S were nerfed, thus making gameplay a pleasure to play again. I will not be playing WOW until they wake up and give us an even chance against unbalanced gameplay with cowardly CV'S.

They should be nerfed not buffed!!!!!

lmbo. Try playing a higher tier CV (T7+) and then come back and tell us how it goes.

[212thAttackBattalion]

Stop complaining about a CV monster like KAGA, that makes gameplay for other ships a pain in the [edited]. Two KAGA'S in one game makes it unplayable for us.It might be fun for you, Its not fun anymore when you get torped in the first 5 minutes in a dead slow battleship. You CV'S players hide in the corner like cowards out of any danger and just have your sick fun. Please dont try to convince me that there is any skill involved in CV gameplay, there is not. WG should not have introduced another CV. Weve had enough with the already existing CV'S. CV'S in WOW are like Arty in WOT. Wargaming should take note where ART'S were nerfed, thus making gameplay a pleasure to play again. I will not be playing WOW until they wake up and give us an even chance against unbalanced gameplay with cowardly CV'S.

They should be nerfed not buffed!!!!!

 

mate, if u hate CV's, get a cleveland... or a high Tier us BB, watch the CV's hate on you like no tomorrow.

 

CV's do need to be buffed after they have been nerfed time and time again to the point of almost uselessness.... there is immense skill needed for CV, more than any other class. they add a challange to the game and are not ruining the game at all.

 

as for the OP.... personally: No, protective or preferential match making has no place in WOWS

[crzyhawk]

The Kaga is massively OP when it doesn't run into Saipan or extremely potent AA.  Drugs are bad.  Stop using them.

[RipNuN2]

There's a reason she has large reserves and 12 tb in the air at a time.

 

[Frank_Fourie]

 

People like you make me want to buy it even more. CV's are NOT WoT arty in any way other than point of view. If you havent played a CV, you have no idea if skill is involved or not. The best way to understand the weaknesses of a class of ship (or tank) is to play it yourself.

 

Everyone knew Kaga would be in tough when uptiered, Enterprise will be no different. WG knows it screwed up with Saipan, I doubt we will see that type of setup again.

 

Hmm. Skill?? Lets see. Parking and hiding behind an Island. 0 skill. Clicking your panes to launch. 0 skill. Drawing a line to enemy. 0 skill. Setting your torps. 0 skill. but you are mostly guaranteed a kill because the enemy has little chance to survive. 0 skill. Skill indeed, but guaranteed kills, oh yeah you get many. Skill my ***.

[Skpstr]

 

Hmm. Skill?? Lets see. Parking and hiding behind an Island. 0 skill. Clicking your panes to launch. 0 skill. Drawing a line to enemy. 0 skill. Setting your torps. 0 skill. but you are mostly guaranteed a kill because the enemy has little chance to survive. 0 skill. Skill indeed, but guaranteed kills, oh yeah you get many. Skill my ***.

 

To be fair, that's not really skill, just like it's not skill when a DD clicks smoke, then holds down the fire button. It's not skill when the BB player points and clicks at a cruiser and deletes it.

 

If you think how you point and click at stuff in ANY ship takes any but the most basic skill, you're wrong.

 

The skill is in what to click on, when to click on it, and where to click on it from, and that holds true for any ship type.

[Kevs02Accord]

A lot of butt hurt low tier players it seems. Too bad they lack the skill to maneuver away from torp bombers, or focus AA, or pay attention to the mini map, or know when to use DCP or know when they screwed up. I mean you want to talk skill, you get target lock and torp aim assist, wow!!! 

[TheKrimzonDemon]

There's a reason she has large reserves and 12 tb in the air at a time.

 

 

This meme made this whole thread worth it for me.

[TheKrimzonDemon]

 

To be fair, that's not really skill, just like it's not skill when a DD clicks smoke, then holds down the fire button. It's not skill when the BB player points and clicks at a cruiser and deletes it.

 

If you think how you point and click at stuff in ANY ship takes any but the most basic skill, you're wrong.

 

The skill is in what to click on, when to click on it, and where to click on it from, and that holds true for any ship type.

 

Nailed it on the head, he did. What, when, and where. What to fire at, when to fire at it, and where it is in relation to you are pretty much the most important things in the game, followed closely by basic aiming and shell type.

 

WASD hax are actually behind all that, which is why the whiners get trolled so hard when they complain about getting torp'd.