Good Color Footage of the Hood 1939!

[rustydawg]

Here's a link to Youtube footage of the HMS Hood and other British Ships in 1939. The footage is pretty good and gives a lot of good details. Notice the Lack of RUST on all the ships and the way the spray from the bow waves fly over the forecastle. The color of the ship is Fleet Dark Blue, (Hex Number for Gimp 50606d, for skinners.) Now I have to repaint all my British Ships to Fleet Dark Blue Gray. The color looks GREAT!!!

 

Here's the Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAthCvk5Gro

 

Edit: The Hex is for Admiralty Dark Grey 507B: (Gimp 50606d)

Good Info here: http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/models/tips/hoodpaint.htm

 

Thanks to MaliceA4Thought

[HowitzerBlitzer]

Embedded because OP didn't.

[Battlecruiser_Siegfried]

Iron Duke cameo at 3:34.

[rustydawg]

Embedded because OP didn't.

 

Wow, How did you Embed that

[creamgravy]

What's the ship between 11:49 to 11:59?

[JervisBay]

What's the ship between 11:49 to 11:59?

 

It's sinking.

[Spooooooooooooooooooooon]

Kind of eerie actually, this weekend I was looking at the wreck photos.  Only 3 survivors on that ship from the engagement with the Bismarck.

[Royeaux]

Kind of eerie actually, this weekend I was looking at the wreck photos.  Only 3 survivors on that ship from the engagement with the Bismarck.

 

So what caused that almost total loss of life?  The suction of the ship?  Would life jackets have helped that?

[crzyhawk]

 

So what caused that almost total loss of life?  The suction of the ship?  Would life jackets have helped that?

  None of the battlecruisers at Jutland had large amount of survivors though either.  Queen Mary had 20, Invincible had 6, and Indefatigable had 2.

 

If other folks made it into the water alive, the temperature may have killed them as well, that was pretty cold water, and it took 3 hour for Electra to arrive.

[MaliceA4Thought]

Assuming you actually survived the explosion and were on or above deck so you had a chance to be thrown clear of the ship in the first place...  (remember a warship in a fight is locked down hard..  theres no easy route out for those working below decks where 90% of the crew are and most of those above decks are strapped in to AA mounts or similar).

 

In the case of the Hood..  Ted Briggs was in the open on the compass platform of the fighting bridge checking the course change and was thrown clear and found a raft that had also been blown off the ship..  he found Bob Tilburn and Bill Dundas floating in the water,  Bob Tilburn had just seen his two friends and co-crew members of his 4" AA gun shredded by splinters and unstrapped himself from the gun and went to the rail of the ship to throw up and was thrown clear at that exact moment, and Bill Dundas was a midshipman working in the fighting top rangefinder at the top of the mainmast.     Bill Dundas kept the other two from sleeping by singing songs and all were ready to give up when Electra was sighted 3 hours later..  All three had severe hypothermia.  It was real close to no survivors from HMS Hood.

 

If you make it into the water...  North Sea and Denmark straight in May for both engagements.  North sea.. average  5 degrees centigrade   Denmark Straight 5 or 6 degrees centigrade  .Air temperature about the same maybe a little higher, rough weather,  Hypothermia will set in in about 20 - 30 minutes and death will occur in approx 1 - 2 hours for a healthy person who has not just been through a trauma..   Being on a ship thats blown up will probably shorten that and thats if you have a lifebelt and can stay afloat..

 

Life Jackets become pretty much irrelevant in those situations, just helps your corpse to stay afloat after you have left it.

 

The other thing that will rapidly kill you when a ship goes down is the fuel oil that floats to the surface..  one (yes just one) mouthful of fuel oil in seawater if swallowed will kill you (sooner rather than later), and if fumes of fuel oil are inhaled, the fuel oil will settle in your lungs and have the same effect on you as chlorine gas did to the troops in WW1  and theres usually a hell of a lot of fuel oil floating in the water when a ship sinks.  If fuel oil gets onto your skin, it will permeate into your body and likewise kill you eventually, but later rather than sooner.  If the fuel oil is burning, then you have an additional problem.

 

Unwritten Naval lore..  if you are floating in water and have got to the stage of almost being asleep due to the cold and no ship in sight..  take a couple of mouthfulls of water and fuel oil mix  and then drift off to hypothermia induced sleep..  it's a peaceful and quiet death.

 

 

M

 

 

[Spooooooooooooooooooooon]

Glad I was infantry

[MaliceA4Thought]

Here's a link to Youtube footage of the HMS Hood and other British Ships in 1939. The footage is pretty good and gives a lot of good details. Notice the Lack of RUST on all the ships and the way the spray from the bow waves fly over the forecastle. The color of the ship is Fleet Dark Blue, (Hex Number for Gimp 50606d, for skinners.) Now I have to repaint all my British Ships to Fleet Dark Blue Gray. The color looks GREAT!!!

 

Here's the Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAthCvk5Gro

 

Will argue with your Fleet dark Blue description.. thats a US colour..  RN ships were Admiralty Dark Grey and Admiralty Medium Grey  and Admiralty Light Grey in the Home fleet that Hood was assigned to.    The "blue" tinge in the video listed is due to colour degradation from the film type used and the age of the film.

 

If you want the accurate colour schemes for all stages of Hoods career  look at this link...  more info than you can shake a paint stick at.

 

http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/models/tips/hoodpaint.htm

 

Theres quite a few innacuracies in the WG plain grey scheme, but the plain grey with the premium bundle is the closest they have to an accurate scheme, in fact it's way more accurate than the fake multi-grey premium one and its certainly more accurate than the Arizona scheme from the campaign.., that ones just a total figment of someones imagination that has no clue and just makes you laugh.

 

The major inacuracies in the plain grey scheme are a lot of the decks in the raised superstructure areas and the ship boats which should have been more of a blue hull livery and mostly canvas covered rather than open..  more trivial details are things like the barrel tips of the guns and the AA mountings etc.  The searchlights should bee Hull colour and not black as depicted in the camo and the blast bags on the secondaries should also be grey not white and finally the pom pom guns should be black and brass not hull colour.  The top of the tripod mast should be black from level with the top of the funnels, the mainmast should have a black section from the top of the funnels to just below the final vertical section which should be white.

 

The radar assembly on top of the foremast ( type 284 fitted march 1941 just before Denmark Straight) should also have an optical rangefinder with it which was a 15 foot optical director linked to the dryer tables in the fighting top, which in turn linked tp the dryer table for the 30 foot director on the superstructure which gave Hood her extended range at sea for firing, which is not reflected in game.  The 15 foot optical director was not scheduled for removal until a type 282 radar had been fitted which was due to happen after her engagement with Bismark.

 

M

[rustydawg]

 

Will argue with your Fleet dark Blue description.. thats a US colour..  RN ships were Admiralty Dark Grey and Admiralty Medium Grey  and Admiralty Light Grey in the Home fleet that Hood was assigned to.    The "blue" tinge in the video listed is due to colour degradation from the film type used and the age of the film.

 

If you want the accurate colour schemes for all stages of Hoods career  look at this link...  more info than you can shake a paint stick at.

 

http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/models/tips/hoodpaint.htm

 

Theres quite a few innacuracies in the WG plain grey scheme, but the plain grey with the premium bundle is the closest they have to an accurate scheme, in fact it's way more accurate than the fake multi-grey premium one and its certainly more accurate than the Arizona scheme from the campaign.., that ones just a total figment of someones imagination that has no clue and just makes you laugh.

 

The major inacuracies in the plain grey scheme are a lot of the decks in the raised superstructure areas and the ship boats which should have been more of a blue hull livery and mostly canvas covered rather than open..  more trivial details are things like the barrel tips of the guns and the AA mountings etc.  The searchlights should bee Hull colour and not black as depicted in the camo and the blast bags on the secondaries should also be grey not white and finally the pom pom guns should be black and brass not hull colour.  The top of the tripod mast should be black from level with the top of the funnels, the mainmast should have a black section from the top of the funnels to just below the final vertical section which should be white.

 

The radar assembly on top of the foremast ( type 284 fitted march 1941 just before Denmark Straight) should also have an optical rangefinder with it which was a 15 foot optical director linked to the dryer tables in the fighting top, which in turn linked tp the dryer table for the 30 foot director on the superstructure which gave Hood her extended range at sea for firing, which is not reflected in game.  The 15 foot optical director was not scheduled for removal until a type 282 radar had been fitted which was due to happen after her engagement with Bismark.

 

M

 

The Hex Color I have in my post is from the info you have posted. Somehow I bungled the name of the paint. I'll correct it. The Hex is for Admiralty Dark Grey 507B: (Gimp 50606d) I'll try the Darker Grey and see how that looks also. But I do really like the 507B-Hex 50606d.

 

About the Pom-Pom guns color is the whole gun Black, including the shield?

 

Thanks for the correction, I'll put your credit at the top.

[Kanzler_Bismarck]

 

So what caused that almost total loss of life?  The suction of the ship?  Would life jackets have helped that?

 

An explosion like that would have likely ripped through the bowels of the ship before it ruptured the hull itself. I would not be surprised if VERY few of the guys in the hull survived to experience the sinking. 

[Feminist]

 

>be british
>explode

 

[MaliceA4Thought]

 

The Hex Color I have in my post is from the info you have posted. Somehow I bungled the name of the paint. I'll correct it. The Hex is for Admiralty Dark Grey 507B: (Gimp 50606d) I'll try the Darker Grey and see how that looks also. But I do really like the 507B-Hex 50606d.

 

About the Pom-Pom guns color is the whole gun Black, including the shield?

 

Thanks for the correction, I'll put your credit at the top.

 

sorry not the shield..    http://www.3dhistory.de/hmshood3d/html/pompom/pompom.html

 

Now, be aware that in those pics they show blank ammo with black canvas webbing..  so all the ammo belts should be solid brass as well...  have attatched a  pic of a gun in use that shows what I mean, even though it is black and white...  The webbing was also a brassy colour so you could quickly tell if the gun was loaded with training blanks or live ammo by looking at the colour of the ammo loaders.

 

As to the ships boats colours...  have also attatched the most likely scheme from that time and certainly for the boats with no oars in them

 

edit..   on looking closer.. the pom poms are actually pretty good but with the faded colours, I didn't see the harsh black of the barrels on first looking so maybe they could be darker.

 

M

 

[rustydawg]

Thanks, MaliceA4Thought, I can put some nice detail in my Hood skin now. The Skin Nolan made for the reward skin Final ConQuest for the Hood has the part of the Main mast and after mast that is painted Black. But he didn't paint the top part of the aft mast top white like your info site says. So I'll have to dig out my parts finder (Grid with different colors and numbers on it.) to find the aft upper Mast.

 

I'll post a finished skin in the 'Fan Art and Community Creations' forum, maybe even one here too.

[MaliceA4Thought]

Thanks, MaliceA4Thought, I can put some nice detail in my Hood skin now. The Skin Nolan made for the reward skin Final ConQuest for the Hood has the part of the Main mast and after mast that is painted Black. But he didn't paint the top part of the aft mast top white like your info site says. So I'll have to dig out my parts finder (Grid with different colors and numbers on it.) to find the aft upper Mast.

 

I'll post a finished skin in the 'Fan Art and Community Creations' forum, maybe even one here too.

 

I'll watch for it

 

M

[MaliceA4Thought]

-snip-

 

Considering how low in the water HMS Hood was, those masts just towered above everything in sight.  When war started and the ship was in Scapa Flow, the commanding Admiral was basically quoted as saying..  "paint those bloody masttops white because I can tell it's Hood in harbour from the Norwegian Coast"

 

M

[hipcanuck]

My own view (not overly popular but some evidence supports it) of the Hood disaster is that it was self induced, caused by a malfunction in X turret. I base this on eye witnesses from the POW who saw flames 'licking' around the base of X turret moments before the detonation and some other witnesses saying the explosion came long after shell splashes by the alleged salvo that sank Hood.

 

There were few survivors for a couple of reasons. The explosion itself likely killed everyone aft of the bridge and engine room instantly as the magazine explosion gutted the ship up to the engine room before blowing out the sides and deck of the ship. All but the bridge crew would have been trapped behind closed hatches and water tight doors, in pitch black conditions with the ship heeling over and the bow rising. Suction would have prevented many from escaping the wreckage going down and I believe one of the survivors was sucked under but was blown to the surface by a large bubble. This bubble could have come from the bow separating from the midsection, or from the bow chain locker caving in as it was crushed by the pressure.

 

Few sailors survive ship detonations of the type Hood suffered.

[rustydawg]

Here's some work in progress pictures of the Hood reskinned in the Admiralty Dark Grey 507B Scheme. It looks darker in the game.

 

 

 

Couldn't resist the chrome barrel tips:

[Royeaux]

 

An explosion like that would have likely ripped through the bowels of the ship before it ruptured the hull itself. I would not be surprised if VERY few of the guys in the hull survived to experience the sinking. 

 

The things about the Hood is that the survivor Ted Briggs mentioned that some form of evacuation happened on the compass platform, and recalls that John Warrand had stepped aside to let him be the first one out among the crew that lined up.  If Extra Credits is to believed, the crew on the bridge were very much alive after the magazine hit, as they didn't know how badly the Hood was damaged, only that she no longer answered the helm.  All of these people were alive after the explosion, what happened to them, I'm not entirely sure.  Pulled down with the ship was my likely guess.

[Junostorm]

 

The things about the Hood is that the survivor Ted Briggs mentioned that some form of evacuation happened on the compass platform, and recalls that John Warrand had stepped aside to let him be the first one out among the crew that lined up.  If Extra Credits is to believed, the crew on the bridge were very much alive after the magazine hit, as they didn't know how badly the Hood was damaged, only that she no longer answered the helm.  All of these people were alive after the explosion, what happened to them, I'm not entirely sure.  Pulled down with the ship was my likely guess.

 

More likely a combination of all those, the blast, the water temp, etc...

[Kanzler_Bismarck]

 

The Compass Platform is not in the hull.

 

When you get an explosion that is contained like that, it looks for a way out and takes the path of least resistance. That path will be the water tight doors and corridors inside the ship. Once it runs out of hull, it will rupture the hull as it expands beyond the confines of the hull.

 

That explosion traveled to th front of the ship and undernieth the conning tower and, very likely, also detonated the front magazine. That is the most likely explanation for German sailors commenting on the Hood's last salvo from A Turret. If you look at Hood's wreck her Armored Conning tower is completely torn away from the ship as a result of this reduction of structural integrity.

 

Yeah, a few guys topside near the front of the ship were alive as Briggs stepped into the water. But the vast majority of her crew were, mercifully, instantly killed.

[MaliceA4Thought]

Here's some work in progress pictures of the Hood reskinned in the Admiralty Dark Grey 507B Scheme. It looks darker in the game.

 

 

 

Couldn't resist the chrome barrel tips:

 

looking good   Donèt forget to loose those shiney barrel tips if its the off to sink Bismark version

 

M