Adm_Nate_Ellis937

Are my stats considered Average? Can I Improve?

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Hey all,

 

I'm currently seeking feedback on if/how I can improve my stats. I mostly play Tiers 7-10, with Indianapolis my go-to cruiser and Missouri my go-to battleship.

 

Any help would be appreciated. :):honoring:


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You have 26% Survival rate.Which means you are dying way to fast into a match and not doing nearly as much damage as you should be.I would advise disengaging if you are being focused or just being more cautious.Don't yolo into caps without knowing who can hurt you...use terrain and concealment.

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Hey Nate, your stats are a bit above average, with the average WTR being around 900-1000, and the average win rate being between 48-51%. 

 

If you want to have my feedback on your performance, and possible ways to improve, please read the spoiler below - but only if you are willing to accept some constructive criticism. 

 

 Firstly, you have managed to acquire quite a few tier 10 ships in your 3000 games, however your stats in them suggest that you have rushed up these lines without truly adapting to high tier gameplay. Sometimes it is best to pause, or slow your advance up a ship line in order to become accustomed to gameplay at different tiers, and in different ships. From your tier 10 ship stats, it seems to me that you have trouble with your ship positioning, leading to below average damage, and a very low survival rate. Perhaps dropping down a few tiers to tier 8 to master higher tier gameplay would be beneficial, also, watching YouTubers such as Aerroon and Flamu are quite helpful for high tier gameplay. 

 

Secondly, your overall survival rate in all your ships is quite low. I believe this is because you may overextend, or make positioning errors - which result in your death. Staying alive is imperative to having a bigger impact on the game. Living longer means more damage, more capping, more tanking, and ultimately, more winning. Press the "+" key a few times to increase your minimap size, and make it a habit to glance at the map between salvos. Always keep a mental note of where you are in relation to your team, and the enemy. WoWS is a rather slow-paced game, which makes getting positioning correct extremely important. Your choices on where to move, push, defend, or flank will influence gameplay many minutes later, and often the outcome of the game itself. 

 

Thirdly, your average damage is a little low for someone who plays a large amount of mid-high tier ships. A large part of this is probably your low survival rate, and poor ship positioning, and I believe that if you can improve those two areas, your average damage will increase dramatically. 

 

Finally, in regard to your go-to ships, the Missouri and Indianapolis. Your Missouri stats are higher than your other high tier ships - which is a great sign! However, your survival rate is still very low, so this is certainly an area that would help you improve the most. Your Indianapolis however is performing quite well - and definitely above average. Whatever you are doing positioning-wise with this ship, it is working. You have an above average survival rate of 40%, which in turn has meant your average damage is a solid 30k, while your win rate is a very good 61%. 

 

In all, try not to feel disheartened by my criticism. You are an above average player, and there are many signs that you are improving with experience. If you focus on map awareness, ship positioning, and survival rate, you should be able to improve even further. Good luck, and good hunting. 

 

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Teahee got it all covered. 

I would add division with better players to learn new things and work on tactics.

 

Everyone can get better, everyone, even the purple nerds.


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I feel your pain, I seem to have hit a wall in getting better at the game as well, its still a lot of fun, but it can be terribly frustrating. I have found a destroyer at tier 6 I have really been working on getting better in the Ernst Gaede, it seems to fit my playstyle. I am still getting killed way to often though. I seem to keep hanging around in a bad spot not quit realizing when it is time to run. I will keep chipping away at it though. 


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            All what Taehee said, I'll add that try different ship lines and find the ones you feel more comfortable with, play passive-ish untill you get to know your ship well, play as a team and not solo, this game is all about team work, learn when to push and when to retreat, killing enemies and making progress in the game comes by the combination of strategies, not by pushing all the time.


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I need to improve more on this gameplay too..ill try it when i get back soon...


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Teahee hit the nail on the head from the looks of it. 

 

You seem to have the right attitude if your goal is to improve as a player. Asking questions and applying what you learn are the first steps to success!

 

A few additional suggestions I would make: 

  • Try to get away from the "how can I improve my stats" mentality. Instead, focus on becoming a more effective player; the stats will follow in time. 
  • Definitely spend more time at tiers 7-8. These are the true "learning" tiers imho. Tiers 5-6 are utterly jacked up with current matchmaking and tiers 1-4 are not really going to teach you what you need to know for long-term success. Tier 7, especially, is a good place to spend time in right now to solidify your understanding of the game and its finer points. 
  • Play different lines and different classes to broaden your horizons when you can. Specializing in one class is fine, but experiencing the capabilities of other classes will help you learn how to counter them more effectively.  
  • The most important tips I can give anyone:
    •  Right click and do a quick look around... after every shot. This can feel pretty frantic and crazy when you first try it, but it will drastically improve your situational awareness.
    • Making the map larger has already been mentioned, but also make it a habit to look at the map at least every 30 seconds. More often than that is preferable, but that will get you started. 

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Stats are not much of a measure of anything.  The entire game is designed around making the games mediocre and stats to even out at 50%.   Matches are not well put together enough based on your skill level so random stats are pretty much that RANDOM and a measure of nothing .


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I will not repeat comments made by other players. They are all great. Here is my analysis:

 

You are a brawler in sniper BB (Iowa/Missouri). Your stats are much higher in brawler ships: Tirpitz, Bismarck, even Yamato (it has good secondary and can do reasonably well in brawling). You almost never press 'S' key. At beginning bell you go full speed and support your ship wholeheartly. You have high ramming record (killed 50 ships), secondary kills (88) and close quarter combat medal. You have 254 first blood medals. You almost never play torpedo DD (7 battles in Fujin) hence you are unfamiliar how they attack you so DD torpedo is your worst nightmare.

 

On top of everyone's suggestion, there are two more ways:

 

THE DIFFICULT WAY: How much are you willing to change about your self? You are the 'play for fun' type guy. It's a game so why so serious? Are you willing to perform boring exercise? Are you willing to go to training room and analyze the weak spot of the ships? Which one is more important - having a good time or having high win rate? If you are very serious about win rate and you are willing to spend some painful hours on it, and you are willing to step out the comfort zone and learn different play style. My recommendation is: PLAY FUJIN, or better yet, play IJN torpedo line up to T10.

 

You need to learn the torpedo boat to do better in your Iowa/Missouri. There are only 2-3 Missouri radar use cases in every battle and you rely on it yet often missed it (your Missouri WR% is lower than Iowa WR%). DD generally would not get close to Bismarck but they see Iowa just like bees see honey. Fujin/IJN torpedo boats go completely against your playing style so it will not be a smooth grind, but you will learn a lot and your past BB experience helps you - You probably would do above average.

 

THE EASY WAY: Play German BB. Hey you are made for that line and you are already doing very well in Bismarck and Tirpitz.

 


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watching YouTubers such as Aerroon and Flamu are quite helpful for high tier gameplay

 

Yes, watch some YouTubers! Notser is also a good one to watch. I have learned a lot from watching them and you can easily find videos specific to the ship you're looking for.

 

 

I'd say the best advise for any ship you're in is to have good situational awareness. Don't get tunnel vision by focusing on one ship just to get snuck up on by a DD coming around an island or broadsided by another BB.  Know where you are in relation to enemies and friendlies alike. Always stick close to your support vessels so you can focus down targets together. Mostly, don't put yourself in a position where you are the only ship the enemy can shoot at or you will be focused down quickly.

 

 

Good luck and fair seas!


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Yes, watch some YouTubers! Notser is also a good one to watch. I have learned a lot from watching them and you can easily find videos specific to the ship you're looking for.

 

 

I'd say the best advise for any ship you're in is to have good situational awareness. Don't get tunnel vision by focusing on one ship just to get snuck up on by a DD coming around an island or broadsided by another BB.  Know where you are in relation to enemies and friendlies alike. Always stick close to your support vessels so you can focus down targets together. Mostly, don't put yourself in a position where you are the only ship the enemy can shoot at or you will be focused down quickly.

 

 

Good luck and fair seas!

 

I would advise against Notser. A few months ago I would have agreed with your suggestion, but his recent videos (in particular his IFHE series) have been very misleading. It is perfectly fine for him to showcase "experimental" builds, but he frames his personal opinion as fact, when it is not. More importantly, his opinion is blatantly wrong in many cases. For things such as IFHE, you cannot claim it is viable based upon the abstract "I feel it is better" - especially when the hard facts and maths say that it is not helpful at all. These misleading claims are particularly damaging to newer or inexperienced players, who may take his opinion as truth (since he often words it that way). 

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Tunnel vision is my biggest problem.  I get focused on one ship and keep pounding it for the kill.  While doing that a DD or CL torpedoes me.  Or 3-4 enemy ships come into range and I am sunk before I know it.  I am trying to break that bad habit but its like smoking.  lol

 

 

This is my first MMO game and its been a steep learning curve.  I am here for fun but also want to improve.


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Tehee,

 

 

I would just like to say that if there were more "criticism" of this kind on this (or any other game) forum, gaming would be a much, much more pleasant experience for us all.  It was thoughtful commentary, both in the careful analysis and the considerate way it was presented.


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Tehee,

 

 

I would just like to say that if there were more "criticism" of this kind on this (or any other game) forum, gaming would be a much, much more pleasant experience for us all.  It was thoughtful commentary, both in the careful analysis and the considerate way it was presented.

 

THIS ^^^  I agree with this wholeheartedly at all of the critiques in this thread. I've had a hard time getting better in this game for a couple of reasons: 

  1. I can't find a clan to run with because my playing time is limited to a few days a week and can't commit to the playing schedules of the better clans. Casual clans don't have alot of purple stat players I want to learn from
  2. I've found fewer people in pubs that are willing to constructively help than I have Kraken medals. 

 

My heart is whole again knowing there are good people still in this world :honoring:


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What I like best about WoW is the willingness of good players to offer advice on the forums.  I have been given advice that makes my game better but will make me a stronger adversary in the future.  The forum members are unselfish.  Thanks a lot for all the help.

 

 


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Stats are a farce because the MM is a farce. Does a Leopard change its spots? Has WG?


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What I like best about WoW is the willingness of good players to offer advice on the forums.  I have been given advice that makes my game better but will make me a stronger adversary in the future.  The forum members are unselfish.  Thanks a lot for all the help.

 

 

 

Then aether has to come and ruin it.

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