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      Official Sweepstakes Rules

        OFFICIAL SWEEPSTAKES RULES PREAMBLE NO PURCHASE OR PAYMENT OF ANY KIND IS NECESSARY TO ENTER OR WIN ANY WARGAMING AMERICA INC. SWEEPSTAKES. A PURCHASE WILL NOT IMPROVE YOUR CHANCES OF WINNING. THIS SWEEPSTAKES IS VOID WHERE PROHIBITED BY LAW. THIS SWEEPSTAKES IS OPEN ONLY TO INDIVIDUALS (1) WHO ARE RESIDENTS OF A JURISDICTION WHICH DOES NOT PROHIBIT THE CONDUCT OF, OR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN, THIS SWEEPSTAKES, AND (2) WHO HAVE REACHED THE AGE OF MAJORITY IN THEIR JURISDICTION OF RESIDENCE AT THE TIME OF ENTRY, EXCEPT THAT RESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES MUST BE 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER, OR OBTAIN THE PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT OF A PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIAN. PARTICIPANTS MUST ALSO MEET THE OTHER ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN SECTION 4 BELOW. BY ENTERING THIS SWEEPSTAKES, EACH ENTRANT CERTIFIES THAT HE/SHE MEETS ALL ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND AGREES TO ACCEPT AND BE BOUND BY ALL TERMS OF THESE OFFICIAL SWEEPSTAKES RULES (“OFFICIAL RULES”). If you do not agree to be bound by the official rules, you may not participate in this SWEEPSTAKES. PRIOR TO RECEIVING ANY PRIZE OR AWARD WORTH MORE THAN $500 IN THIS SWEEPSTAKES (EXCEPT A PRIZE OF IN-GAME CURRENCY), WINNERS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A COMPLETED W9 FORM AND CERTAIN OTHER PAPERWORK DETAILED BELOW. YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS SWEEPSTAKES REQUIRES YOU TO ACCEPT THE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT: WORLD OF WARSHIPS [LINK]. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT, YOU MAY NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE SWEEPSTAKES AND MAY NOT CONTINUE USING AND/OR PLAYING WORLD OF WARSHIPS (AS SPECIFIED IN OUR DETAILED RULES APPLICABLE TO THE SPECIFIC SWEEPSTAKES (“DETAILED RULES”)). SWEEPSTAKES RULES 1.Sponsor This sweepstakes (the “Sweepstakes”) is sponsored by Wargaming America, Inc. (the “Sponsor”), PO Box 8250, Emeryville, CA 94662. 2.Sweepstakes Dates ENTRIES WILL BE ACCEPTED ONLY DURING THE ENTRY PERIOD IDENTIFIED IN OUR DETAILED RULES (the “Entry Period”). In these Official Rules and Detailed Rules, all times are Pacific times in the USA. 3.Description of the Prize Subject to these Official Rules, the winning participant will receive the prize(s) described in the Detailed Rules (each, a “Prize”).   4.Eligibility Participation in this Sweepstakes is open only to individuals who enter in accordance with Section 5 of these Rules and provide all other eligibility requirements listed in the Detailed Rules. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the following are NOT ELIGIBLE to participate in this Sweepstakes: (i) employees, officers, directors and agents of Sponsor and/or Sponsor’s licensees (the “Sponsor Agents”); (ii) parents, spouses, children, brothers and sisters of Sponsor Agents; and (iii) individuals living in the same household as Sponsor Agents. Each Entrant is responsible for providing accurate information as to his/her name, age, residential mailing address, email address and phone number. Individuals that provide information reasonably determined by Sponsor (in its sole discretion) to be incomplete, false or deceptive, will be ineligible to participate or (if they have already participated) to win the Sweepstakes. 5.How to Enter To enter, an eligible individual must meet the Entry Criteria from Detailed Rules and enter during the Entry Period. 6.Entrant’s Certification as to His/Her Entry By entering, each entrant represents and warrants that his/her entry (and each element thereof): (i) complies with these Official Rules, and End User License Agreements applicable to Sponsor games themselves, and the Terms of Use of Sponsor’s Website; (ii) are true, accurate and correct. Entrant acknowledges and agrees that Sponsor reserves the right to disqualify any entries that, in Sponsor’s sole discretion, (a) include trademarks, logos, or copyrighted material not owned by entrant or used without permission (such as company names, music, photographs, works of art or images published on or in websites, television, movies or other media); (b) refer to public figures; © contain vulgar language, profanity, sexual content, content promoting the use of tobacco, alcohol, illegal drugs, firearms or weapons, content expressing or fomenting hate of any kind (including racism or sexism), content that promotes violence or harm to other living creatures, or any other offensive, obscene or inappropriate content; (d) promote a political agenda regardless of the political affiliation and regardless of Sponsor’s treatment of other entries that may or may not promote a political agenda; (e) misrepresent, defame or contain disparaging remarks about other people or companies; or (f) contain materials embodying the names, likenesses, photographs or other identifying elements of any person, living or dead, without submitted express written permission. 7.Receiving a Sweepstakes Prize Each entry received by one or more of the permissible entry methods will remain in a prize eligible pool until the end of the Sweepstakes. From this pool the Sponsor will select winners of Prizes on the dates indicated in the Detailed Rules. Winners will be notified by the method identified in the Detailed Rules. The potential Prize winner may be required to sign the following documents (the “Prize Claim Documents”) and return them via facsimile or email (by .pdf file attachment) within five (5) days of attempted notification (and subsequently return the original, unmodified, executed documents by mail to Sponsor’s address set forth above) [1]: (i) a W9 tax form; (ii) an Affidavit of Eligibility and Liability Waiver; and (iii) where lawful, a Personal Release. Sponsor reserves the right to substitute prizes for a less valuable prize upon the request of the participant. If the potential Prize winner is a USA resident under 18 years of age (if applicable) (or under the age of majority in his/her state of residence), the Prize Claim Documents must be signed by the potential Prize winner’s parent or legal guardian. If the Prize Claim Documents sent to the potential Prize winner by any means are returned as undeliverable, or if the potential Prize winner fails or refuses to properly sign and return all Prize Claim Documents within the above-stated time period, or if the potential Prize winner (and/or his/her entry content) is determined by Sponsor (in Sponsor’s sole discretion) to be ineligible or not in compliance with these Official Rules, the potential Prize winner will be disqualified and alternative entry will be selected as the potential Prize winner. In the event that a randomly-selected winner declines his or her prize for any reason, including to accept a prize of lesser value, the Sponsor may select any entry from the Sweepstakes in its sole discretion, (each an “Alternative Entrant”) and offer the declined prize to that Alternative Entrant, in each case in Sponsor’s sole discretion. At the end of the Sweepstakes, in Sponsor’s sole discretion, all Entry-related materials may remain posted and available for viewing on Sponsor’s website. If required, Entrant hereby grants to Sponsor a perpetual, irrevocable license to use and display the contents of any entry materials for commercial or non-commercial purposes. 8.Administration of the Sweepstakes The Sweepstakes Administration will be as set forth in the Detailed Rules. 9.Permissions Entrant grants Sponsor and its partners the right to use his or her names and certain personal information they communicate to Sponsor or its partners in Sponsor’s business and marketing efforts. Specifically, by entering this Sweepstakes, each entrant grants to Sponsor and its licensees (if any) the irrevocable, perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive, transferable and sublicenseable right and license to use, display, copy, edit, modify, create derivative works of, publish, distribute and otherwise exploit the content of, and elements embodied in, his/her entries in any and all media, including but not limited to digital and electronic media, audio and audiovisual media (whether now existing or hereafter devised), in any language, throughout the world, in any broadcast outlet and in any manner, for trade, advertising, promotional, commercial, or any other purposes without further approval or consideration. 10.Grant of Rights with respect to Entrants By entering this Sweepstakes, each entrant grants Sponsor and its licensees the right to use the Entrant’s name, image, likeness, voice, photograph, statements and/or Prize information, and/or any portion of any of the foregoing, for promotional, advertising and/or publicity purposes in any media, now or hereafter known, throughout the world and in perpetuity, without compensation or notice to, or further consent of, the Entrant, to the extent permitted by law. 11.Waiver and Release of Liability by Entrants By entering this Sweepstakes, each entrant, on behalf of himself/herself and his/her heirs, successors, assigns, agents and representatives, and without further compensation of any kind, waives and releases the Sponsor Agents, and each of their successor and assigns, from any and all claims that he/she may now or hereafter have in any jurisdiction based on “moral rights” or unfair competition with respect to Sponsor’s and/or Sponsor’s licensees’ exploitation of Entries or entry materials, and each entrant agrees not to instigate, support, maintain, or authorize any action, claim, or lawsuit against any Sponsor Agents, any of their heirs, successors, assigns, agents and representatives, or any other person, in connection with this Sweepstakes, the award, acceptance, possession, use or misuse of the Prize and/or on the grounds that any use of any user-generated content, or any derivative works thereof, infringes or violates any rights of entrant therein. None of the Sponsor Agents shall have any obligation, responsibility or liability with respect to: (i) notifications, communications or materials sent from an entrant to Sponsor or from Sponsor to an entrant, that are lost, late, misdirected, garbled, inaccurate, incomplete, illegible, unintelligible, damaged or otherwise not received by the intended recipient, in whole or in part, due to computer, post office or technical error of any kind, (ii) telephone, electronic, hardware, software, network, Internet or computer malfunctions, failures or difficulties, (iii) power-related or weather-related events of any kind, and/or to any events not under Sponsor’s direct control, (iv) entries or other communications from entrants that contain inaccurate information or do not comply with these Official Rules, (v) errors, omissions, interruptions, deletions, defects, delays in operation or transmissions, theft, destruction, unauthorized access or alterations by entrant or third parties, and/or (vi) any damage to entrant’s computer system that occurs in connection with accessing Sponsor’s Website and/or submitting entry materials. BY ENTERING THE SWEEPSTAKES, EACH ENTRANT, ON BEHALF OF HIMSELF/HERSELF AND HIS/HER HEIRS, SUCCESSORS, ASSIGNS, AGENTS AND REPRESENTATIVES, RELEASES EACH SPONSOR AGENT, AND EACH OF THEIR RESPECTIVE SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS, FROM AND OF ANY AND ALL CLAIMS AND DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THEIR PARTICIPATION AND/OR ENTRY IN THIS SWEEPSTAKES AND/OR THE AWARD, ACCEPTANCE, POSSESSION, USE OR MISUSE OF THE PRIZE AWARDED IN THIS SWEEPSTAKES. Waiver of California Civil Code Section 1542. Further, entrants are advised that California Civil Code § 1542 provides that: A GENERAL RELEASE DOES NOT EXTEND TO CLAIMS WHICH THE CREDITOR DOES NOT KNOW OR SUSPECT TO EXIST IN HIS FAVOR AT THE TIME OF EXECUTING THE RELEASE, WHICH IF KNOWN BY HIM MUST HAVE MATERIALLY AFFECTED HIS SETTLEMENT WITH THE DEBTOR. By entering this Sweepstakes, each entrant, on behalf of himself/herself and his/her heirs, successors, assigns, agents and representatives, acknowledges that he/she understands the significance and consequences of California Civil Code § 1542 and, to the extent it may be applicable, elects to waive the benefits of its provisions, with the intent that this release and waiver of liability in these Sweepstakes Rules shall include claims known or unknown, and unknown and unsuspected. 12.Tampering Sponsor, in its sole discretion, reserves the right to disqualify and prohibit from participating any person, who Sponsor determines (in its sole discretion) is or is attempting to: (i) tamper with Sponsor’s Website and/or any part of the Sweepstakes; (ii) attempting to undermine the legitimate operation of the Sweepstakes by cheating, deception, or other unfair playing practices, (iii) intending to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass any other participants or Sponsor’s Agents; and/or (iv) otherwise violating these Official Rules or the Terms of Use of Sponsor’s Website. ANY ATTEMPT TO DELIBERATELY DAMAGE SPONSOR’S WEBSITE OR ANY OF SPONSOR’S GAMES (OR ANY PART OF EITHER) OR UNDERMINE THE OPERATION OF THIS SWEEPSTAKES MAY BE A VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL AND CIVIL LAWS. SHOULD ANY SUCH ATTEMPT BE MADE, SPONSOR AND ITS LICENSEES (IF ANY) RESERVE THE RIGHT TO SEEK DAMAGES AND ANY OTHER AVAILABLE REMEDIES FROM ANY SUCH PERSON(S) RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY SUCH ATTEMPT TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW. EACH ENTRANT (OR, IF THE ENTRANT IS NOT OF AGE OF MAJORITY IN HIS/HER STATE OF RESIDENCE, THE LEGAL GUARDIANS THEREOF) AGREES TO INDEMNIFY AND HOLD HARMLESS THE SPONSOR AGENTS FROM AND AGAINST ANY AND ALL CLAIMS, LOSSES, DAMAGES AND/OR LIABILITIES (INCLUDING REASONABLE ATTORNEYS' FEES AND EXPENSES) THAT MAY BE ASSERTED AGAINST OR INCURRED BY ANY OF THEM AT ANY TIME, IN CONNECTION WITH ENTRANT’S ENTRY MATERIALS, OR THE USE THEREOF, AND/OR BY ENTRANT’S BREACHES OF ANY REPRESENTATION, WARRANTY OR COVENANTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SWEEPSTAKES. 13.Sponsor’s Right to Void Entry Submission and Terminate this Sweepstakes If, in Sponsor’s opinion, there is any suspected or actual evidence of fraud, electronic or non-electronic tampering or unauthorized intervention with any portion of this Sweepstakes, or if fraud or technical difficulties of any sort (e.g., computer viruses, bugs) compromise the integrity of the Sweepstakes, the Sponsor reserves the right to void suspect entry submissions and/or evaluations and/or terminate the Sweepstakes and award the Prize in its sole discretion. The use of any automated launching or entry software or any other mechanical or electronic means that permits the participant to automatically enter or evaluate repeatedly is prohibited. In the event of a dispute as to the identity of an entrant based on an email address, the entry in question may be disqualified subject to the Sponsor’s discretion. 14.Identification of Winners To the extent permitted or required by law, the Prize winner(s)’ name, city and state of residence may be obtained by sending a self-addressed, stamped envelope, sixty (60) days after the announcement of the Prize winner, to: PO Box 8250, Emeryville, CA 94662. Please specify “ATTN: WINNER REQUEST: [Title] SWEEPSTAKES” on the envelope. Only one request per envelope. Such information will be available only for one (1) year after the award of the Prize. 15.General Terms This Sweepstakes is subject to these Official Rules and is governed by the laws of the State of California without reference to its rules concerning conflicts or law. By entering, each entrant agrees (and if the entrant is a United States resident who is under eighteen (or under the age of majority in his/her state of residence), his/her parent and/or legal guardian agrees) to comply with these Official Rules, the Terms of Use of Sponsor’s Website [LINK] and the Sponsor’s Privacy Policy [LINK]. Any claims relating to this Sweepstakes must be resolved in the state or federal courts of CALIFORNIA. BY ENTERING, ALL ENTRANTS AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE DECISIONS OF SPONSOR, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS SWEEPSTAKES. In order to validly enter and in order to claim the Prize, entrants may be required to provide Sponsor with certain personally identifiable information such as name, residential address, telephone number, social security number, email address and/or other contact and/or tax information. Such information may be used for the purposes set forth in the Sponsor’s Privacy Policy, located at , in accordance with the terms set forth in that Privacy Policy and as specifically described (or licensed) in these Official Rules. Entrants (and, for entrants under 18 years of age, their parents or legal guardians) wishing that the Sponsor not contact them via postal mail, electronic mail and/or by telephone (except in connection with this Sweepstakes and/or as otherwise set forth in the Privacy Policy) may elect to opt-out of such disclosures (i.e., they may direct Sponsor not to make those disclosures other than those as to which “opting out” is not permitted) by following the procedure set forth in Sponsor’s Privacy Policy (except that contact shall be permitted in connection with this Sweepstakes and as permitted or required by law and that a winner may not opt out of providing a W9 form to claim his/her prize). The invalidity or unenforceability of any provision of these Official Rules shall not affect the validity or enforceability of any other provision. In the event that any provision is determined to be invalid or otherwise unenforceable or illegal, these Official Rules shall otherwise remain in effect and shall be construed in accordance with their terms as if the invalid or illegal provision were not contained herein. All taxes, fees and surcharges on the Prize are the sole responsibility of the Prize winner. In the event that the selected winner of the Prize is ineligible or refuses the Prize, the Prize will be forfeited and Sponsor, in its sole discretion, may choose whether to award the Prize to another entrant in the Sweepstakes.   [1] Affidavits of eligibility may be required to verify age unless we have another means of doing so. If we need persons under 18 to be allowed to participate, please call me to discuss.  
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      World of Warships - Game Rules

        GAME RULES Additions to the End User License Agreement (“EULA”). End User License Agreement

      Terms of Service

      Privacy Policy IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!   BY INSTALLING, COPYING, OR OTHERWISE USING OUR GAME(S) OR SERVICE(S) IN ANY MANNER, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THESE RULES.   IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH OUR RULES, PLEASE DO NOT PROCEED WITH THE REGISTRATION PROCESS AND LEAVE OUR SITES IMMEDIATELY AND DO NOT ACCESS OR USE OUR WEBSITE(S), GAME(S), OR SERVICE(S).   1. General Provisions   1.01. In order to register, players must be thirteen (13) years of age or older, and are allowed only one account registered per server. All players are solely responsible for their behavior in both public and battle chat. Players are responsible for protecting their accounts from access by others, and are strongly encouraged to select a hard-to-guess password and not re-use that password on any other sites where it may be read by the owners or administrators of that site. It is highly discouraged for users to share accounts with others. In the case of an account that has been lost or hacked, please inform technical support immediately through their website, Support. If you are under 13 years of age or other minimum legal age where it differs under local legal requirements, please ask your parent or guardian to review and approve this EULA on your behalf. If you are under the aforesaid age, you must not use or access the Game without a parent or legal guardian supervising you.   1.02. The developers (Wargaming.net) of this software are not responsible for the behavior of any individual player, as well as for the content of his or her messages in all game chats and channels. Players are solely responsible for their behavior and the content of their messages in all game chats and channels.   1.03. Wargaming.net reserves the right to evaluate each incident on a case by case basis. The action that may be taken may be more lenient or more severe than those listed under each category.   1.04. Wargaming.net may suspend, terminate, modify, or delete accounts at any time for any reason or for no reason, with or without notice to the owner of the account. Accounts terminated by Wargaming.net for any type of abuse, including without limitation a violation of these rules or the EULA, will not be reactivated for any reason. For purposes of explanation and not limitation, most account suspensions, terminations and/or deletions are the result of violations of these rules, the End User License Agreement (EULA), or other Wargaming.net policy. Players may cancel any account registered to themselves at any time by following the instructions on the Website. Wargaming.net may stop offering and/or supporting any service at any time.   1.05. Players who decide to be involved with the game acknowledge and agree to these and all other relevant rules and will abide by them regardless of the circumstances. In addition players also agree that these Rules will apply to anyone that is allowed to use their Wargaming.net account or user ID. By allowing another user to use the account, the account owner is personally responsible for all the consequences (including termination of said account) which may result, if the above discussed person violates any of the listed rules at any time. The account owner will not be entitled to a refund of any currency or any form of credit.   1.06. Administration does not bear responsibility for any inter-clan relationship. It is at sole discretion of clan leaders, their deputies, and officers to carefully choose clan members (especially whilst assigning clan members to important offices such as the clan treasury). By assigning a clan member to a respective office clan leader confirms his confidence in the member. Privates, from their side, confirm that they accept clan rules and regulations by entering the respective clan. Note, that in the event of a conflict within a clan, information, such as treasury logs (and similar) will not be provided on request.   2. Prohibitions, restrictions and conditions of use, for all game chats and channels You agree not to do any of the following while using the Game or any Wargaming.net game chat or channels.   2.01. Excessive profanity and inappropriate language is not welcome. It is suggested to ensure that the censor filter is switched on. The censor filter is not an excuse to break the existing game and chat rules, and excessive profanity will still be sanctioned.   2.02. Typing in such a way to bypass the censor filter is prohibited.   2.03. Insults, personal attacks, abuse or harassment are not tolerated on any level.   2.04. Derogatory comments based on race, nationality, religion, culture, sex, or sexual preference are prohibited.   2.05. Allusion of racial or national supremacy, as well as discriminative propaganda on any level is prohibited.   2.06. Spamming or posting nonsensical messages is prohibited in the game and battle chats. This also includes excessive use of caps, as well as excessive posting of battle results.   2.07. Begging/Soliciting in any form is prohibited in all game chats and channels. Begging/Soliciting includes but is not limited to: requesting users to transfer real money to the virtual wallet, asking for additional credits, and requests to transfer game gold.   2.08. All types of ads for sale, exchange, or other options for the transfer of accounts from one user to another violate EULA and are prohibited in all game chats and channels.   2.09. Distribution of user’s personal information without their consent is prohibited.   2.10. Slandering users or posting false information about users in all game chats and channels is prohibited.   2.11. Attempting to extort information from users, including information necessary for the use of their account is prohibited.   2.12. Discussion on, or linking to illegal activities, such as illicit drugs, is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to the linking of, or discussion on, websites dedicated to vulgar, racist, abusive, illegal, or any other content prohibited by the EULA, or linking to the resources that contain such advertisement or content.   2.13. Discussion on, or linking to unreleased content, cheats, hacks, Trojan horses, or malicious programs is prohibited. If you suspect that a cheat or hack exists or have any other problems or concerns on these topics, provide the necessary information to technical support.   2.14. Discussion on, advertising of, or linking to websites, in relation to the selling of gold, credits, promotional codes, leveling services, or game accounts is prohibited.   2.15. Threats of destroying allied player vehicles as well as the threats of disclosure of ally positions to enemies, regardless of whether the threat was carried out, or not, are prohibited.   2.16. Death threats and other threats of violence in real life, directed either against individual users, game masters or administration of the project, are prohibited.   2.17. All types of advertising messages are prohibited in general and battle chats. With the exception that WOT related advertising such as platoon forming, company recruiting, clan recruiting is permitted with the following restrictions. It may contain no more than three (3) lines on a standard chat window, and be posted no more than once every 15 minutes within the garage chats or once per game in battle   2.18. Mentioning and discussing of other games is permitted, but it should be discontinued if the character of the discussion turns into at a direct promotion of another gaming project.   2.19. Discussion of social, religious, political, illegal or other controversial topics that may create offense is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to negative portrayal of religious and political figures is prohibited.   2.20. Discussion of decisions or sanctions made by Game Masters or Administration in all game chats and channels is prohibited.   2.21. Any kind of provocations for other players to violate the EULA as well as additions to it is strictly prohibited.   2.22. Any statements or other actions that violate any applicable laws or regulations are strictly prohibited and will be strongly suppressed.   2.23. Any attempt to create nicknames, groups, or organized communities of players associated in any fashion with organizations which violate any applicable laws or regulations is prohibited. This includes but not limited to, direct or indirect references to Nazi symbols, abbreviations and well known leaders.   2.24. The use of copyrighted, trademarked, patented, classified, or restricted material or information and the violation of any rights of any party, including rights of privacy or publicity is prohibited.   3. Names (Players and Clans), Avatars, Images/Video, Signatures & Clan logos Please note that in certain Games clans are not available.   Certain content for names, avatars, images/video, signatures & clan logos, have no place on the forums or within the Game, due to their extremely offensive, annoying or inappropriate nature. The following list is only a summary, but it gives some idea of names, images, signatures, avatars and clan logos which are not accepted with the Game environment: Names, Avatars, Images/Video, Signatures & Clan logos ....   3.01 that contain profanity, including its abbreviated form.   3.02 that contain insults, personal attacks, abuse or harassment.   3.03 that contain unprintable words or abbreviations, or which are unattractive and/or unreadable.   3.04 which either in whole or partly contain copyrighted or registered trade mark elements.   3.05 which have (in any way) racist or nationalistic implications which may create offense to a certain nation, ethnic, religious or racial group.   3.06 that contain an allusion of racial or national supremacy, as well as discriminative propaganda on any level.   3.07 which contain insults or derogatory comments based on race, nationality, religion, culture, mental stature, sex, or sexual preference   3.08 which have an association with sexuality, pedophilia, sexual abuse; or have an offensive connection to the human body or bodily functions.   3.09 which contain nudity, sexually explicit material or content that is otherwise deemed inappropriate.   3.10 which contain excessive gore or violence, or are obscene/vulgar.   3.11 which make reference to addictive or illegal substances or their use, or any other illegal activities.   3.12 that contain Logotypes, symbols, emblems or figures connected in one way or another with organizations, that violate or were violating existing laws and rules; i.e. anything that may provoke strong negative reaction/association or promote national/ethnic/religious hatred. (For example, using different variations of Nazi symbolic, abridgments and signs [88, 14, 420, SS], or similar stylizing [such as, 55] as well as credentials, names and surnames of Nazi leaders.)   3.13 that contain reference to current mainstream religions that may create offense, i.e. names such as God, Jesus, Allah, etc.   3.14 that are connected with negative historical or political personalities, first of all those who are judged by international courts for crimes against humanity, those that generally arouse feelings of suffering or disgust in the majority of people, as well as members of currently existing terrorist organizations;   3.15 that negatively portrays the projects staff, or administration.   3.16 which in any other manner violates the End User License Agreement or local laws........ either implicitly or explicitly are prohibited (This also contains links to websites containing the above). If names (player or clan), avatars, signatures, images/video, clan logos within the forums or within the game violate these rules the offending account may be changed and/or the accounts may be sanctioned or suspended. Moreover, the administration reserves the right to delete, update or modify any names (player or clans) and avatars, images or clan images which are considered inappropriate on the forums or within the game environment.
      4. Inappropriate conduct in game / Fair play principles The following actions are prohibited in game:   4.01. Intentionally damaging vehicles belonging to a player on the same team (team damage).   4.02. Intentionally destroying vehicles belonging to a player on the same team (team kill).   4.03. Intentionally blocking (blocking from front and rear) vehicles belonging to a player on the same team.   4.04. Intentionally propping (blocking on one side, where the other side of a user's vehicle touches a fixed indestructible obstacle, preventing free movement.) vehicles belonging to a player on the same team.   4.05. Intentionally informing participants of the opposing team through battle, or voice chat, the location of vehicles belonging to players of the same team.   4.06. Intentionally exploiting the physics system to damage an allied tank, plane, ship or similar actions. This includes, but is not limited to, pushing an allied tank into line of fire, pushing allied tanks off of cliffs, bridges, into water, etc.   4.07. Using bots, clickers, macros, keyboard and mouse recorders, or any other similar methods to accumulate credits and experience without the participation or with passive participation of the player within the battle. (Excessive and repetitive passive play)   5. Rules Enforcement   The "Automated Anti-TD/TK Reporting System" is the system that actively scans the game logs searching for players who massively cause damage to vehicles of their own team (team damage), or intentionally destroy vehicles of their teammates (team kill).   Please note that the Automated Anti-TD/TK Reporting System is not available in certain Games, for instance, World of Tanks Blitz, World of Warplanes and World of Warships. In such cases, please contact us through https://na.wargaming.net/support/.   5.01. Based on combat logs for a particular period of time, usually several days, the automated system finds players involved in friendly fire and team kill incidents. The calculations are quite complicated and the main factor that is taken into account is damage inflicted to allies to total damage ratio.   5.02. If the above ratio for a particular user exceeds a certain fixed threshold value, the system identifies the user as a violator, since his main target is doing damage to allied vehicles.   5.03. If the damage ratio for such user exceeds the verifying coefficient, introduced in order to make distinction between intentional and accidental team killers, such user is identified as an offender and goes onto the suspension list.   5.04. While calculating damage to allies / total damage ratio only the battles with team kill/damage incidents are taken into account.   5.05. In connection with the introduction of Automated Anti-TK Reporting System), listed below are set uniform measures that can be taken against offenders:*. First detection of a user as a team killer and team-damager leads to 1 hour game account suspension.*. Second detection of a user as a team killer and team-damager (recidivism) leads to 1 day game account suspension.*. Multiple detections of a user as a team killer and team-damager (systemic recidivism) will resort in escalating suspensions leading to a PERMANENT game account suspension. The "Automated Anti-Bot Reporting System" is the system that actively scans the game logs searching for players who use automated bots, clickers, macros, keyboard and mouse recorders, or any other similar methods to accumulate credits and experience without the participation or with passive participation of the player.   5.06. In the case of detection of single or short-term signs of use of automated scripts (bot software) in user’s logs, user’s account is taken under thorough control by the administration. The owner of the account can be informed by special notifications sent to the registered e-mail.   5.07. In case of detection of signs of massive or overt use of automated scripts or botting software in user’s logs, the user’s account is suspended permanently, with a possibility of suspension being lifted in the future, after the administration conducts a complete rollback of vehicles, achievements, funds (credits) and research except premium tanks, premium consumables, premium shells and gold.   5.08. Automated Anti-Bot Reporting System is not meant to substitute the Technical Support service, the system aims at making their work easier. The most difficult cases thereby will be solved individually via Technical Support service.   6. Reporting in-game violations In certain Games you will be able to use the Automated Anti-TK Reporting System. In this case, an automated system of violations tracking (team damage, team kill) will operate and the administration draws your attention to the following information - with the introduction of this system, users’ complaints about the above mentioned violations will not be considered. From now on all punishments for team damage and team kill incidents will be executed automatically without support service workers' interference. The system has been customized, tested multiple times and currently works correctly. We also draw your attention to the fact that a multitude of all possible circumstances accompanying different violations (including extenuating and aggravating ones) has been taken into consideration. All requests relating to ban cancellation or minimizing the punishment period, laid by the system, will be ignored. 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Hey all!

 

I keep hearing that HMCS Haida should be added to the game. I'm curious how large the general interest in this ship is.

So, if you could please:

  • Tell me why you want this ship
  • Tell me if you think it's worth adding to Commonwealth tree, since I personally don't know if a Canadian line is viable at this time but it's fun to imagine
  • Tier Thoughts?
  • General thoughts?

 

Bonus question

  • Should I have gone with Dove_of_War instead, and gone for the irony?

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  • Should I have gone with Dove_of_War instead, and gone for the irony?

You should've gone with Seagull_of_War, to compete with Steven :trollface:

 

As for Haida, she should probably be a Tier 6 or 5 destroyer. That's all I can guess atm


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you should have gone with Dove_of_war becuase irony is the best. As for the HMCS Haida tier five or six should work for a Trible class ship mabey with  a fast torp rearm

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*inhales*

 

1) She is like the Enterprise for Canadians. She - to this day - is Canada's most decorated Warship; and dare I say the pride of the Royal Canadian Navy and canuck naval enthusiasts everywhere. She's also a Museum Ship to boot (as the last of the Tribals) ! 

 

2) I definitely think she deserves a place in the Commonwealth line. I don't expect there to be enough ships for a Canadian branch as the RCN used US and British supplied gear. But like the Perth, she is a significant ship and could be a deserved one-off. 

 

3) It really depends on where the Tribal-class will be eventually positioned, but I think the destroyer that is most akin to the Tribal in-game is the Błys, and as such, should match her as a Tier7 ship. 

 

4) plzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplz. i'll liek luv you lotz. mak da canadians heppie. don't let War Thunder beat you to the punch :)

- you could play around and see whether you want her to be in her WW2 config or her post-war config; either would be fine to see.

- The post-war refit is interesting, as she is armed with the guns seen on the black swan; derpy but very fast firing (british akizuki?) Also it would mean her #3 gun is more like a secondary armament. 

- torpedo reload is something i'd like to see on her considering she has only one torpedo launcher

- maybe continue with the british single-shot torp system? 

 

 

5) I like Pigeon_of_War. the derpyness is well endeared. Plus I imagine you as a Pigeon as is so don't ruin the illusion for me. 

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So, if you could please:

  • Tell me why you want this ship
  • Tell me if you think it's worth adding to Commonwealth tree, since I personally don't know if a Canadian line is viable at this time but it's fun to imagine
  • Tier Thoughts?
  • General thoughts?

 

  • It's one of the few surviving British or Commonwealth ships.  North America has quite a few museum ships, but most of them were United States Navy vessels, as the vast majority of British and Commonwealth ships were scrapped.
  • Commonwealth tree is fine.
  • Probably tier 7, depending on what you plan on doing with the normal Tribals, and how you choose to balance them.  Honestly, many of the tier 7-10 destroyers in this game vary much more in in-game power (rate of fire, shell damage, fire chance, accuracy, etc.) than they do in real-life ship specifications.
  • It's a Tribal, which you're going to need to model anyway.  Having a British destroyer tree without including the Tribals would be daft.  You might as well get another premium, likely a popular one, out of the effort.
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HMCS Haida fits at T7 with Blyskawica, folks. That is all this Canadian who knows her combat record has to say about it.


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Answers:

Why:  History, collection, expand the Commonwealth line with a DD to help out with the Perth.

Commonwealth:  Yes.  The Canadian line would be rather sparse, as would the Commonwealth line.  This gives many more choices.

Tier:  We are lacking in Tier 8 Premium DDs.  We have the Lo Yang, but it's alone there.

General Thoughts:  The Perth brought forth a whole unique fighting style with the smoke.  It would be interesting to see something on a similar pattern - or even the same thing on a DD.

  ...  During the war, the allies used strips of foil to jam radar...  add that to the Haida smoke?

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Hey all!

 

I keep hearing that HMCS Haida should be added to the game. I'm curious how large the general interest in this ship is.

So, if you could please:

  • Tell me why you want this ship
  • Tell me if you think it's worth adding to Commonwealth tree, since I personally don't know if a Canadian line is viable at this time but it's fun to imagine
  • Tier Thoughts?
  • General thoughts?

 

Bonus question

  • Should I have gone with Dove_of_War instead, and gone for the irony?

 

  • I've read and heard a lot of stories regarding her and her accomplishments is one of the legendary ships the RCN had. Plus she sits 5 minutes from my apartment!
  • She's worth adding to the Commonwealth line. I don't think a full Canadian line is viable. 
  • I would say Tier 7.
  • She would be a great starter for upcoming RN DD line. Sure she won't be a captain trainer but she could potentially let players experience what the RN line would look like.

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Hey all!

 

I keep hearing that HMCS Haida should be added to the game. I'm curious how large the general interest in this ship is.

So, if you could please:

  • Tell me why you want this ship
  • Tell me if you think it's worth adding to Commonwealth tree, since I personally don't know if a Canadian line is viable at this time but it's fun to imagine
  • Tier Thoughts?
  • General thoughts?

 

Bonus question

  • Should I have gone with Dove_of_War instead, and gone for the irony?

Canadians will love you long time! Teir 6-7 would be best in my opinion and it would allow ranked play and generally fit smoothly. A WG video of its history would also be in order as is a museum! 

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Why I want - Because she's a cool ship and I want more Commonwealth stuff.

Yeah, put it in the Commonwealth tree, I'm 99% sure that a Canadian line is not viable.

Tier 6, like HMS Gallant.

Dove of War is funny, but I think you have to go with Seagull of War.


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Why: The Haida is Canada's version of the USS Enterprise; most decorated Canadian warship left afloat, last Tribal-class destroyer in one piece and what better way to celebrate Canada being (over) 150 years old by the time she gets released? Also, Haida is the one ship I would not hesitate to open my wallet for. ;P

Commonwealth Tree?: Definitely. There won't be enough ships to make a Canadian tree unless you add Frigates as a playable class, and a Commonwealth branch to the RN tree could be interesting in it's own right.

Tier: Somewhere between tier 5 and 8. It depends on where you want to put the Tribal class on the RN line.

General Thoughts: What I've said and what others can say in favour of adding her. *Shrugs*

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Here we go!

 

As a Canadian, it's pretty obvious why I would like HMCS Haida in World Of Warships. As the only remaining Tribal class destroyer in the world and the most decorated ship in the history of the Royal Canadian Navy, she seems to be an easy choice for a premium ship, with her being a museum ship with relatively easy access to her specifications. Haida also served with Blyskawica, the Polish Tier 7 destroyer we currently already have in WOWS, making for a nice reunion, as they are both museum ships. I have a few other facts too which contribute to why I want her added. 

 

- She served through WWII and Korea with very good luck.

 

- Haida partially earned the title of ‘Fightingest ship in the Royal Canadian Navy" due to her sinking the most tonnage of any Canadian war ship in history.

 

- Her kill list includes, T29, T27, ZH1, Z32, U971, UJ1420 or UJ1421, M486 Minesweeper, SG3C and a Patrol Boat. While some of these were kill assists, her total tonnage sunk comes out to roughly 8,600 tons which was more than three times her weight!

 

- Fought close quarters night battles alongside her Polish and British comrades against German destroyers and torpedo boats around the coast of France in 1944, helping clear the way for D-Day. 

 

- Haida and two of her sister Tribal's, Iroquois and Huron, were both present when Scharnhorst attempted to intercept convoy JW-55B. These destroyers were attached to the escort of the convoy and if the British hunting squadron would not have intercepted Scharnhorst, it was likely that the Canadian and British destroyers escorting the convoy would have clashed. Even so, German aircraft and subs attacked the convoy however, no ships were lost and the convoy successfully reached her destination.

 

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Haida in 1945, wearing a standard camouflage pattern. 

 

-  She was part of the prestigious Trainbuster Club was mostly dominated by individual Canadian destroyers and admission was not easy at all. The club was formed in the Korean War when American and Canadian destroyers were hunting North Korean trains. You had to wait off shore for hours, braving coastal batteries. The engine car of the train had to knocked out or the kill was not counted and even then, kills were very carefully monitored. HMCS Crusader has the highest kill record with four trains, three of them within a 24 hour window. Overall, Haida, Athabaskan (II) and Crusader accounted for 8 of the 28 total UN train kills of the war.

 

As for the WOWS performance of Haida, she is an alright ship from what I can gather and she would fit very well at Tier 7 as a Commonwealth premium!

 

- Relatively high HP pool, only less than Leberecht Maass

 

- Forward facing dual 4.7 inch gun turrets

 

- Similar gun performance to US Navy destroyers except for her turret rotation speeds

 

- Average speed of 36.5 knots

 

- Lackluster torpedo armament of one quadruple launcher (Torpedo reload consumable?)

 

- Good close range AA and a dual purpose 4 inch (secondary gun too!)

 

- Similar concealment to Blyskawica (similar size)

 

- Very unique camouflage pattern! 

 

U-971Haida.jpg

 

This is the pattern I would like Haida to see, the quality is not great as photos of Haida in WWII are extremely rare, here is the same pattern in a model.

 

hodkinson_haida_completed_b.jpgAnyway, I appreciate the post and I hope to have convinced you a bit haha!

 

I prefer Pigeon, much more intimidating :teethhappy:

 

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Commonwealth

 

But... at the end of the war Canada had the 4th largest navy in the world. The Canuckdans deserve their own tech tree.

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Why add Haida to the game? Because it's the embodiment of everything the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) did during WWII. The RCN grew from 6 ships when it entered the war in September 1939 to become the world's 3rd largest navy. Canadian sailors were tasked with the perilous journey of escorting merchant ships across the Atlantic. Facing both the U-boat menace and the horrifying conditions that is the North Atlantic, Canadians made an immense contribution to the war effort in order to keep Britain alive while Germany tried to choke her to death.

 

***As an aside, I highly recommend anyone interested in the Canadian contribution to WWII read Tim Cook's The Necessary War to understand just how terrible the conditions were for Canadian sailors, and just how much we actually contributed in spite of what American or British sources claim.***

 

Haida herself is also the only surviving Tribal class Destroyer, which in my opinion is one of the finest line of destroyers ever made. I have no doubt that the Tribal Class would have to appear in a full British Destroyer line anyway, so I don't see why adding her as a premium wouldn't be beneficial from a financial standpoint. From a Canadian standpoint, it's the most recognizable ship in our history and would appeal to those of us who play the game.

 

For tier, considering she served in the same unit as Błyskawica (10th Destroyer Flotilla), I would argue that she should be tier VII. Judging by her armament I don't see why it wouldn't be any more than -1/+1 tier from VII at the very most. Putting her in the commonwealth would be fine (considering how nearly all of our ships were based off of British designs), but I would also love it if Harry DeWolf was her admiral by default! :)

 

America has over fifty ships in her tech tree, including a dozen or so premiums. All I plea is that you give the Canadians one ship.

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Everything that I would say has been said already.

I've been to her in Hamilton, and she's in rough shape... We need to raise awareness for her preservation and potentially get some restoration money towards her!


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Everything that I would say has been said already.

I've been to her in Hamilton, and she's in rough shape... We need to raise awareness for her preservation and potentially get some restoration money towards her!

 

Agreed! HMCS Sackville seems to do doing quite well and since she's such a small ship along with being in the public eye on the Halifax harbour-scape, Haida needs some attention!

 

Throw out a Naval Legends episode too and release her for Canada's 150th Birthday this year!


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Why add Haida to the game? Because it's the embodiment of everything the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) did during WWII. The RCN grew from 6 ships when it entered the war in September 1939 to become the world's 3rd largest navy. Canadian sailors were tasked with the perilous journey of escorting merchant ships across the Atlantic. Facing both the U-boat menace and the horrifying conditions that is the North Atlantic, Canadians made an immense contribution to the war effort in order to keep Britain alive while Germany tried to choke her to death.

 

***As an aside, I highly recommend anyone interested in the Canadian contribution to WWII read Tim Cook's The Necessary War to understand just how terrible the conditions were for Canadian sailors, and just how much we actually contributed in spite of what American or British sources claim.***

 

Haida herself is also the only surviving Tribal class Destroyer, which in my opinion is one of the finest line of destroyers ever made. I have no doubt that the Tribal Class would have to appear in a full British Destroyer line anyway, so I don't see why adding her as a premium wouldn't be beneficial from a financial standpoint. From a Canadian standpoint, it's the most recognizable ship in our history and would appeal to those of us who play the game.

 

For tier, considering she served in the same unit as Błyskawica (10th Destroyer Flotilla), I would argue that she should be tier VII. Judging by her armament I don't see why it wouldn't be any more than -1/+1 tier from VII at the very most. Putting her in the commonwealth would be fine (considering how nearly all of our ships were based off of British designs), but I would also love it if Harry DeWolf was her admiral by default! :)

 

America has over fifty ships in her tech tree, including a dozen or so premiums. All I plea is that you give the Canadians one ship.

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*inhales*

 

1) She is like the Enterprise for Canadians. She - to this day - is Canada's most decorated Warship; and dare I say the pride of the Royal Canadian Navy and canuck naval enthusiasts everywhere. She's also a Museum Ship to boot (as the last of the Tribals) ! 

 

2) I definitely think she deserves a place in the Commonwealth line. I don't expect there to be enough ships for a Canadian branch as the RCN used US and British supplied gear. But like the Perth, she is a significant ship and could be a deserved one-off. 

 

3) It really depends on where the Tribal-class will be eventually positioned, but I think the destroyer that is most akin to the Tribal in-game is the Błys, and as such, should match her as a Tier7 ship. 

 

4) plzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplzplz. i'll liek luv you lotz. mak da canadians heppie. don't let War Thunder beat you to the punch :)

- you could play around and see whether you want her to be in her WW2 config or her post-war config; either would be fine to see.

- The post-war refit is interesting, as she is armed with the guns seen on the black swan; derpy but very fast firing (british akizuki?) Also it would mean her #3 gun is more like a secondary armament. 

- torpedo reload is something i'd like to see on her considering she has only one torpedo launcher

- maybe continue with the british single-shot torp system? 

 

 

5) I like Pigeon_of_War. the derpyness is well endeared. Plus I imagine you as a Pigeon as is so don't ruin the illusion for me. 

 

I doubt we will see her post war refit, her firepower would be extremely low with only two dual guns. Edited by xX_Critical_ClopOut69_Xx

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  • Tell me why you want this ship
  • Tell me if you think it's worth adding to Commonwealth tree, since I personally don't know if a Canadian line is viable at this time but it's fun to imagine
  • Tier Thoughts?
  • General thoughts?

 

Bonus question

  • Should I have gone with Dove_of_War instead, and gone for the irony?

 

I want the ship so I can play something that represents my own country, I don't know of any other HMCS ships in the game. The ship is still around to this day, too. It would be neat to be able to play a ship someone can go out and see in person.

Canada's accomplishments in the war are usually tallied up with all the other Commonwealth nations. I don't see why it wouldn't fit in their tree.

I don't know how you guys will balance it, but everyone else seems to think it belongs at tier 7.

As long as the game balance team doesn't mess up with it, I'll be happy to see it in game.

 

Sure, more irony is always fun.

 


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I doubt we will see her post war refit, her firepower would be extremely low with only two dual guns.

 

Mmm Understood, but I presented as an option because It would really make her stand-out from a typical Tribal-class that will one day grace the Brit tech tree. 

 

Think of it as getting the Belfast treatment. 


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Want

  • Sentimental value: It was my backyard ship that was like a 5min drive away in Ontario Place (yes, before it was moved)
  • It is the one and only Tribal-class Destroyer still in existence today

 

Worth

  • Definitely Common Wealth tree. Haida features some minor differences to RN Tribal-class, due to the proximity of US manufacturing capabilities.
  • Namely Boffins gun, which is a 40mm Bofors single mounted on a Oerlikon pedestal.

 

Tier = T6 or T7 (It's T6.5, inbetween)

  • It's the size of T8/9, but its armament is more like T6.
  • 1884t standard displacement, 2560t full load (comparison: Benson 1630t/2400t, Fletcher 2050t/2500t)
  • 3x Twin 120mm 12RPM main guns, 1x Twin 102mm 20rpm secondary guns, 1x Quadruple 533mm torp launcher
  • RN 120mm/45 QF Mark XII guns have USN 127mm/38 shell arcs
  • total main gun rpm is T6/7 material ↓
  • 6x 12rpm = 72rpm (comparison: Farragut/Mahan 5x 15rpm = 75rpm, Sims 4x 18rpm = 72rpm)
  • Single quad torpedo launcher is highly unimpressive when you consider your firepower is equal to T6/7 USN DDs featuring more torps

 

General thoughts

  • WW2 Haida was built after changes to the original Tribal design of 8x 120mm guns, so features less firepower.
  • WW2 Haida was even more focused on ASW armament and it's AA armament is still not very good for a WW2 era DD
  • Korean War era Haida has the same kind of AA guns you find on Des Moines. Those 76mm/50 guns that chew through aircraft. The cost is another main gun turret.
  • Much of the ASW armament on Haida is useless in WoWs, despite having really strong ASW gear.

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I am not Canadian but I really think she would be a great premium ship option. Her combat history qualifies her without a doubt. And since the Tribal class is an important DD class, which I expect will be represented in the British DD line, she would make an excellent Commonwealth addition as is Perth. I would think she fits better as a T7 rivalling Blys but I think you guys would already have an idea where Tribals fit in.

 

Make it happen! I would definitely prefer to see her over Kidd

 

As to your name you should stay Pigeon of War. It is very unique. And pigeons "strut" better than dovesanyway.


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Agreed! HMCS Sackville seems to do doing quite well and since she's such a small ship along with being in the public eye on the Halifax harbour-scape, Haida needs some attention!

 

Throw out a Naval Legends episode too and release her for Canada's 150th Birthday this year!

 

^I almost forgot about our Birthday! Wargaming! Make with the Haida~Present!!!

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  1. I want the ship because:  I’m Canadian, it’s most likely the only Canadian ship that could be put into WoWS, it’s the only surviving Tribal-class Destroyer in the world, it’s Canada’s most-decorated ship, it’s service history (see bit about Scharnhorst), it actually served with the Błyskawica,
  2. Definitely into the Commonwealth Tree, since while a Canadian tree might be fun (lots of paper ships!), we didn’t have original designs in our Navy. 
  3. As others have stated, whatever tier you put the Tribal-class of Destroyers in, but probably the Tier 6-7 range.
  4. Giving us Harry DeWolf as the commander – he was the first commander of the Haida, but he also commanded the 2 CV’s that Canada had post-war.  He also served as the Chief of Naval Staff for the RCN.
  5. Dove of War would’ve been ironic, but I prefer pigeon, for various reasons.
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Throw out a Naval Legends episode too and release her for Canada's 150th Birthday this year!

 

This is a great idea

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