419 [BLNCE] Xenomancers Members 2,293 posts 7,591 battles Report post #1 Posted May 16, 2017 Make one or I quit and you stop getting money from me - it's that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,927 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 16,307 posts 23,632 battles Report post #2 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Make one and I will quit and you stop getting even more money from me than Him - it's that simple. Edited May 16, 2017 by paradat 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,870 [GUTS] Mizzerys_Fate [GUTS] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,387 posts 29,449 battles Report post #3 Posted May 16, 2017 During the brief period that a stat mod would work in game, a la XVM, it showed that their was skilled based MM. Usually, 100 games or so sample, the skill all went to one team. You can replicate that by seeing end game results today.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #4 Posted May 16, 2017 Make one or I quit and you stop getting money from me - it's that simple. don't let the door hit you on the ego on your way out. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,072 [SVER] Sinboto Beta Testers 3,810 posts 10,030 battles Report post #5 Posted May 16, 2017 don't let the door hit you on the ego on your way out. Every time I see a post from you I go: Yeah he's an EvE player alright haha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,426 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Alpha Tester 29,187 posts 15,766 battles Report post #6 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Make one or I quit and you stop getting money from me - it's that simple. Make one and I will quit and you stop getting even more money from me than Him - it's that simple. You two do realize that a skill based MM would drive your W/R towards 50% while at the same time the poor players would in turn have their W/R driven towards 50%. The only way it might work was if the skill was only factored after the MM had selected the players for the match and swapped players back and forth to balance the teams. Edited May 17, 2017 by BrushWolf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
419 [BLNCE] Xenomancers Members 2,293 posts 7,591 battles Report post #7 Posted May 16, 2017 don't let the door hit you on the ego on your way out. what kind of idiot are you? you like playing with uneven teams? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #8 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Bye Felicia! Please, let the door hit you on the way out. Also, we really don't have the player population to support skill based mm. Edited May 16, 2017 by renegadestatuz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,090 battles Report post #9 Posted May 16, 2017 Make one or I quit and you stop getting money from me - it's that simple. Hmmm...NO. SBMM is a facadé. A lie. Something people keep praying will "fix" the game, but won't do a goddamn thing. Just get over it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
419 [BLNCE] Xenomancers Members 2,293 posts 7,591 battles Report post #10 Posted May 16, 2017 You two do realize that a skill based MM would drive your W/R towards 50% while at the same time would bring the poor players would in turn have their W/R driven towards 50%. The only way it might work was if the skill was only factored after the MM had selected the players for the match and swapped players back and forth to balance the teams. have you ever played a competitive game? obviously you use some kind of tier system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
419 [BLNCE] Xenomancers Members 2,293 posts 7,591 battles Report post #11 Posted May 16, 2017 Make one and I will quit and you stop getting even more money from me than Him - it's that simple. Why would you quit? Playing against players of equal skill to you - that bores you or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,414 yUPPatriots Members 3,929 posts 20,944 battles Report post #12 Posted May 16, 2017 simple Little Groot would never quit over MM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,090 battles Report post #13 Posted May 16, 2017 have you ever played a competitive game? obviously you use some kind of tier system. And here, it won't really make much of a difference. W/R in this game is on a bell curve my friend. People like you and me, we're on the fringe, just like the extremely bad. Most people sit in the game 47-51% range. You yourself, you're in the top 5th percentile. SBMM will have the inverse effect for you than you think will happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #14 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) And here, it won't really make much of a difference. W/R in this game is on a bell curve my friend. People like you and me, we're on the fringe, just like the extremely bad. Most people sit in the game 47-51% range. You yourself, you're in the top 5th percentile. SBMM will have the inverse effect for you than you think will happen. This. Over time, it'll draw all players above a 50% winrate down to a 50% winrate(since you will never win ever battle) and it'll draw all players below 50% winrate up to a 50% with time. Not to mention we don't have the server population to support it. You'd have very long wait times for games, and anyone on either extreme of the scale for winrate would have an extremely long wait time for games. You want your "even matched" games OP? Well how about wait an extremely long time for a match. Edited May 16, 2017 by renegadestatuz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
419 [BLNCE] Xenomancers Members 2,293 posts 7,591 battles Report post #15 Posted May 16, 2017 Little Groot would never quit over MM. Little Groot wants fair teams. He's not the only one. I honestly don't care how they do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,894 [HINON] Doomlock [HINON] Wiki Lead, Beta Testers, Privateers 6,801 posts 5,248 battles Report post #16 Posted May 16, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,791 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 9,887 posts 17,696 battles Report post #17 Posted May 16, 2017 Make one or I quit and you stop getting money from me - it's that simple. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,927 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 16,307 posts 23,632 battles Report post #18 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) You two do realize that a skill based MM would drive your W/R towards 50% while at the same time would bring the poor players would in turn have their W/R driven towards 50%. The only way it might work was if the skill was only factored after the MM had selected the players for the match and swapped players back and forth to balance the teams. Note the AND in my post. I am saying the opposite of the op. Edited May 16, 2017 by paradat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,927 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 16,307 posts 23,632 battles Report post #19 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Why would you quit? Playing against players of equal skill to you - that bores you or something? No, I was just illustrating the silliness of ultimatums. Also as others have mentioned and as we have exhausted over and over again in WOWS and WOT skill based MM only works the way you want it to for a short time then all of us are back in a narrow band playing together again. The experience you are looking for is available in Ranked battles. As far as boring I think having the mix of players adds variety, so current mm is less boring not more. Edited May 16, 2017 by paradat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,425 [0456] _ENO_ Members 3,945 posts 10,545 battles Report post #20 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) I'd like to see CV players balanced out in the MM... disparity in skills seems most apparent within that class during games. Edited May 16, 2017 by ENO75 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
846 [GGWP] Merc85 Beta Testers 2,414 posts 38,072 battles Report post #21 Posted May 16, 2017 Make one or I quit and you stop getting money from me - it's that simple. I guess you might as well quit since the WG dev Sub_Obtavian has said that they won't use a skill based MM because it would drive everyone to the exact same win rate of 50%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,198 Tachnechdorus Beta Testers 3,315 posts 27,013 battles Report post #22 Posted May 16, 2017 Make one or I quit and you stop getting money from me - it's that simple. If they make one then I will quit and they can keep my 185 sh0ips ! ! ! ! ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #23 Posted May 16, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87 [SIMP] MelonFlavoredShells Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 322 posts 4,470 battles Report post #24 Posted May 16, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #25 Posted May 16, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
