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I had a certain curiosity about this, so I looked it up.   One interesting data that that showed up is that lot of the T1s were present with high WR, but I took them out since they play in their own pool.     As you can see, IJN CVs are prominently represented, and well played CV can really affect WR.     Otherwise,   I find St Louis and Bogatyr is favorites of seal clubbers.  (I actually prefer t4 cruisers  myself)  followed by clemson.  Only BB in this group was nassau. Khab, Udaloi and Shiratsuyu  represented, but surprisingly also  german t2/3 DDs.    French T7/8 CA probably could be discounted for select people having it.    TBH,  premiums holds all the top places,  but I was rather interesting to see no BBs beyond nassau.   For my own stat, I seem to do well with Bismarck and Amagi for WR at higher tire.    anyway,  gunship DD seem to dominate   (akizuki is just behind this list at 21st spot) and seem to show that low tier seal clubbing is alive and well  :D

 

 

    Shokaku        8    CV     Japan    4,740    56.92%    61,050    1,309    4.4    1.1    18.5    76%    0%    0%
    St. Louis        3    CA/CL     USA    10,352    56.78%    27,090    655    1.5    1.0    0.0    36%    30%    0%
    Taiho             9    CV     Japan    3,294    56.59%    84,998    1,417    6.1    1.4    18.9    78%    0%    0%
    Hakuryu        10    CV     Japan    1,710    56.49%    106,660    1,793    6.4    1.6    21.7    75%    0%    0%    
    Bogatyr         3    CA/CL     USSR    3,123    56.07%    28,261    695    1.5    1.0    0.0    32%    32%    0%
    Clemson        4    DD     USA    13,713    55.54%    23,807    717    1.3    1.0    0.0    24%    46%    9%
    Dresden        2    CA/CL     Ger    1,480    55.47%    18,897    580    1.5    1.0    0.0    35%    24%    0%
    V-25              2    DD     Ger    4,036    55.35%    17,050    589    1.6    1.1    0.0    30%    39%    10%
    Khabarovsk  10    DD     USSR    7,469    54.93%    66,151    1,624    1.8    1.0    0.6    44%    42%    4%
    Nassau         3    BB     Ge    6,028    54.51%    30,802    624    1.8    1.1    0.1    41%    27%    0%
    Weymouth    2    CA/CL     UK    1,122    54.37%    15,344    493    0.9    0.6    0.0    29%    31%    0%
    Z-46              9    DD     Ger    3,569    54.22%    40,640    1,550    1.3    0.8    0.3    35%    47%    7%
    Charles Martel  8    CA/CL     Fr    5,812    53.92%    56,723    1,538    1.3    0.8    1.0    36%    35%    6%
    G-101        3    DD     Ger    5,011    53.90%    18,150    589    1.1    0.8    0.0    22%    41%    9%
    Udaloi        9    DD     USSR    5,455    53.55%    46,191    1,528    1.2    0.8    0.7    34%    43%    5%
    Shiratsuyu    7    DD     Japan    15,341    53.39%    31,613    1,116    1.3    0.8    0.2    36%    45%    6%
    Ryujo        6    CV     Japan    7,634    53.31%    39,886    1,012    2.3    0.8    9.9    66%    0%    0%
    Jurien      2    CA/CL     France    8,254    53.25%    16,894    513    1.0    0.7    0.0    29%    34%    0%
    Hiryu        7    CV     Japan    6,794    53.18%    47,995    1,076    3.1    0.9    17.6    70%    0%    0%
    Algérie        7    CA/CL     France    9,221    53.06%    46,094    1,315    1.4    0.9    0.9    36%    32%    6%

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Actually if you want to pad, you find the worst ships and find a way to make them preform and win.

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Actually if you want to pad, you find the worst ships and find a way to make them preform and win.

 

If you want to pad your WTR, you do that. If you want to pad your WR, you use the ships in the OP and perform better than the average person in them.

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IJN CV clearly balanced

 

Also interesting seeing so few tier 4/5/6 ships...  wonder what's wrong there!

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charles martel is currently only owned by those who are either very good or paid with freexp.    Same with Algier, which seem to have high WR.      My guess is that those ships have skewed data due to this reason.   

 

I can easily pad my WTR and WR using t4 cruisers as well as seal club   :D    

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I honestly didn't expect the Shokaku to be a better stat-padder than the Taiho and Hakuryu.  Hiryu/Ranger is decently-balanced if both CVs run strike, even without a CV snipe, and at T8 it's just the same thing all over again with better planes and DF on your flattop.

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I honestly didn't expect the Shokaku to be a better stat-padder than the Taiho and Hakuryu.  Hiryu/Ranger is decently-balanced if both CVs run strike, even without a CV snipe, and at T8 it's just the same thing all over again with better planes and DF on your flattop.

 

Especially since Tier 10 games are so common now with Shokaku....  

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If you want to stat pad, play Nikolai in division with Yubari and Clemson. :D

 

Or break out your Gremy/Fujin. 

 

Nassau is a fun ship to play, especially when you run low on Mike Yankee Soxsix flags. Konig Albert works too but I feel cheap playing a 19-point captain at Tier 3. 

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The problem with using CVs to pad winrate, is that, unless you are a very good player, you won't be able to consistently win.

 

IJN CV clearly balanced

 

Also interesting seeing so few tier 4/5/6 ships...  wonder what's wrong there!

 

Why do I always get the US CV player with a 38%WR?

 

You know the funniest part of being a US CV player and playing against another IJN CV.  Specifically a CV player on the enemy team who is unicum with their IJN CVs.

 

Is when they start to talk trash in chat that they won purely because of their skill, I laugh back and reply "Your in a Hak" lol what is hard about winning, same goes for all tier 8,9,10 IJN CVs.

 

This is coming from someone who has both and has played both lines.  I will be the honest one among them and tell all of you ahead of time, IJN CVs are OP and if you play simply to win then that is what you play.

 

I play to win yes, but I also play to have fun and I also enjoy the big history behind the US lines, so I do my best to find ways to perform as good as I can, even in the US CV's

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If you want to stat pad, play Nikolai in division with Yubari and Clemson. :D

 

Or break out your Gremy/Fujin. 

 

Nassau is a fun ship to play, especially when you run low on Mike Yankee Soxsix flags. Konig Albert works too but I feel cheap playing a 19-point captain at Tier 3. 

 

Yeah; put my Akizuki captain in Kamikaze-R last night and had a 100k+ game on Strait. Sure is easy when battleships sail in straight lines, and others keep getting closer to some spec of rock in the water when they should know a destroyer is around, (I've ambushed more ships than I can count with destroyers from behind that fleck of rock just north of A cap on Strait...)

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You know the funniest part of being a US CV player and playing against another IJN CV.  Specifically a CV player on the enemy team who is unicum with their IJN CVs.

 

Is when they start to talk trash in chat that they won purely because of their skill, I laugh back and reply "Your in a Hak" lol what is hard about winning, same goes for all tier 8,9,10 IJN CVs.

 

This is coming from someone who has both and has played both lines.  I will be the honest one among them and tell all of you ahead of time, IJN CVs are OP and if you play simply to win then that is what you play.

 

I play to win yes, but I also play to have fun and I also enjoy the big history behind the US lines, so I do my best to find ways to perform as good as I can, even in the US CV's

 

I love going strike Lexington and running up against an enemy Shokaku.  They try to damage and strafe my planes while I play mind games and just go for damage. So fun :)

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If you want to pad your WTR, you do that. If you want to pad your WR, you use the ships in the OP and perform better than the average person in them.

 

Stupid question. But if you managed to do good in a bad ship, wouldn't that accomplish both?

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Stupid question. But if you managed to do good in a bad ship, wouldn't that accomplish both?

 

If you consistantly win 10% more games in a 48% ship you'll win 58%. If you consistantly win 10% more in a 53% ship, you'll win 63%.

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If you consistantly win 10% more games in a 48% ship you'll win 58%. If you consistantly win 10% more in a 53% ship, you'll win 63%.

Well for a guy like me 58% is just fine.

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These days, as far as non-prems go, the Khab is hands down the best stat padding ship out there. If I could stand playing more than a few games in the same ship in a given session, I'd just play it all the time until my stats were where I wanted them to be.

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If you consistantly win 10% more games in a 48% ship you'll win 58%. If you consistantly win 10% more in a 53% ship, you'll win 63%.

 

I think you meant if you increase your overall win rate by % by 10%, not win 10% more games.

 

Winning 48 out of 100 games, a 10% increase = 52.8 games are won out of 100 (48*1.1) or a 4.8% increase in overall win rate

Winning 53 out of 100 games, a 10% increase = 58.3 games are won out of 100 (5.3*1.1) or a 5.3% increase in overall win rate

You need a 20% increase in win rate to go from 48% to 58%. 

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I think you meant if you increase your overall win rate by % by 10%, not win 10% more games.

 

I know what I wrote. If you win 58% in a 48% ship (10% higher than expected), etc. Don't bring more math into something that doesn't need it.

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You know the funniest part of being a US CV player and playing against another IJN CV.  Specifically a CV player on the enemy team who is unicum with their IJN CVs.

 

Is when they start to talk trash in chat that they won purely because of their skill, I laugh back and reply "Your in a Hak" lol what is hard about winning, same goes for all tier 8,9,10 IJN CVs.

 

This is coming from someone who has both and has played both lines.  I will be the honest one among them and tell all of you ahead of time, IJN CVs are OP and if you play simply to win then that is what you play.

 

I play to win yes, but I also play to have fun and I also enjoy the big history behind the US lines, so I do my best to find ways to perform as good as I can, even in the US CV's

Mind you, it doesn't help when you have blockheads like this Lexington driver playing American CVs because "fewer squads, so it's easier to play."  That can't be eliminated as a contributing factor.

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Just look at the plane kills on the other team.  18 planes lost to a Gearing, 42 to the stock Shokaku on the other team - as AS Lexington.

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Actually if you want to pad, you find the worst ships and find a way to make them preform and win.

 

^ that plus play more DDs to padd wtr. There is a bigger spread between average and great DD players so easier to get higher WTR.

Think my wtr in presplit trashcan was close to 2000 and I'm bout an average DD player. Too bad I really wanted to get the khab at the time or I wouldn't have used flags and camo to lingered there longer.

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Back before the buff I had a run of really good games in my Pepsicola and had something like a 2000 WTR in it because I didn't instantly fall over and could hit things with the right ammo type. It's gone down from that to 1731 due to other people figuring it out after it was buffed.

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