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Thoughts on the Duca D'Aosta

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Of all the ships, this is probably the one that earned its nickname earliest, The Duke.  For us old farts, it's another connection that we think the "read Duke" was John Wayne.  So, I guess it's natural, for me, at least, that after playing a few battles in the Duke, one line kept popping in my head.

 

 

A classic movie and this line alone, I think best sums up my initial impression of the Duca D'Aosta.

 

As almost every reviewer has mentioned, she's fast.  While her guns aren't wonderful, they are comfortable.  I seem to be setting more fires than I expected with her HE fire chance.  The torp angles are great from both sides, taking only a little rudder shift to bring each side to bear.  While she does have a horrific turning radius, she feels wonderfully responsive and very wiggly.  If I were to pull a Rooster Cogburn, I don't really care about the turning radius.  Her armor actually feels adequate to such a charge.  Her bow armor is a respectable 16mm.  My math might be off, but that should mean that it would take something of 228mm or higher to overmatch.  Please somebody check my math and let me know.  That means that the 152s of light cruisers and 203s of most heavy cruisers are going to be subject to bounces at that angle.

 

As far as her torps are concerned, I'm of a few minds of it.  With a range of 12km, bringing somebody into firing range isn't that hard.  However, with a 51kt speed, you can get tea and visit with the Pope before it reaches the target.  That's not to say that I haven't found it helpful.  There have been a few scenarios where I think my target discounted that I had fired torpedoes and moved back into the path.  It makes sense really, in these tiered battles, you get a kind of clock running in your head.  You plan on the opponent dropping desperation torpedoes while you drop him.  You wait a reasonable amount of time, just in case, and if you don't see the torps, then the assumption is, he didn't fire any.  However, with these TurtleTorps, it's easy, especially at long ranges, to assume the Duke didn't fire torps when the window passes.  I have thought about taking torpedo acceleration, but is a 56 knot torp all that better?  I'm not too concerned on the range reduction, something about 2.4 km, which is still 9.6km of range or about.  However, is the extra 5 knots going to make an appreciable difference?  I don't think so, so I'll probably just stick with the stock torpedoes.

 

 

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Yep, "I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man".  :trollface:

 

But I do agree with your assessment. On top of all you mentioned she is FUN!

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FILL YOUR HANDS YOU SUNNAVA B....!


Love that line.

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Meanwhile I only ever seem to get tier 8 matches in the silly thing, which isn't fun when your range is 14km.

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There are some tier 6 boats that are competitive when low tier, the Duca is not one of them....

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Yep, "I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man".  :trollface:

 

But I do agree with your assessment. On top of all you mentioned she is FUN!

 

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There are some tier 6 boats that are competitive when low tier, the Duca is not one of them....

 

True, but I'm not too concerned with a boat being competitive.  But, then again, I like ships like the Smith and the Yubari, and heavens forgive me, the Mikasa.
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Meanwhile I only ever seem to get tier 8 matches in the silly thing, which isn't fun when your range is 14km.

 

Pray for a cyclone. :teethhappy:
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True, but I'm not too concerned with a boat being competitive.  But, then again, I like ships like the Smith and the Yubari, and heavens forgive me, the Mikasa.

 

Note that I said "fun", not "competitive".

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The really bad part of long range, slow torps is that is gives unintended targets plenty of time to wander into them.  Unfortunately, I torped a friendly tonight who I thought was well clear.  Very fortunately, I didn't sink him.  My fault entirely and a good lesson for me for the next time.  

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I have found the Duke very fun to play, especially when I put speed flags on and start to outrun DDs and torps

 

Quick side note: MIKASA!:izmena: (sorry, I also enjoy that ship)

 

Back to the topic at hand, I look forward to more games with the Duke, now I just need to grind my captains skill points.

Have fun out there captains.

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I think she's overhyped. I like her AP, but am not convinced that it's anything particularly special. Her HE, on the other hand, is abysmal. Gun range is also a pretty massive disappointment - another km would have made an enormous difference. The torpedoes are amusing, but indecisive - I don't like that they apparently trade punch for range. I would much rather have 8 or even 6 km torps with a bigger warhead.

 

Overall? C+ boat with a cool coat of paint/nationality. Nothing special.

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I only get T8 matches, so I have to disagree with everything but the speed. Against T5, I expect she's decent, but against T7 and 8, she's a floating instant cit that A) can't hit back due to MG range, and B), Even when she does hit back, does nothing. Plus, her extra consumable for DF is utterly worthless, I've used it every match, I don't believe I've shot down a plane yet. I have, however had the crap bombed out of me.

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Not a very good ship, and absolutely not worth the money unless you want to be cool and buy the first Italian ship. If you actually care about performance, just buy a Molotov.

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I like the d'Aosta.  It seems to have a niche as a DD hunter even with the weak HE (which I rarely use).  I simply load AP and leave it for the entire match and can do respectable damage.  I don't worry about what the ship isn't.  I like it for what it does.  

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I like the d'Aosta.  It seems to have a niche as a DD hunter even with the weak HE (which I rarely use).  I simply load AP and leave it for the entire match and can do respectable damage.  I don't worry about what the ship isn't.  I like it for what it does.  

 

Cleveland is a superior DD hunter, I would argue - so is the French tier 6. Duca's anemic HE and pathetic armor make it really dangerous to take her into close combat situations, not so much because you risk yourself at the hands of destroyers, but because the momentum will almost always carry you within shooting distance of heavier units. 

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I like the d'Aosta.  It seems to have a niche as a DD hunter even with the weak HE (which I rarely use).  I simply load AP and leave it for the entire match and can do respectable damage.  I don't worry about what the ship isn't.  I like it for what it does.  

 

Not really true. Every other tier 6 cruiser in the game, save for Graf Spee is just as good at, or most cases better at DD hunting than Duca.

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I love this ship and do not regret the purchase. i have a 27-1 KDR in it with an 85% win rate over 20 battles so far.

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Duca is not a bad ship at all. Quick, responsive, loonngg range torps. Reminds me of the Sims, but the Duca has better torps.

 

She's solid. Not good, not bad but solid. I'm glad I picked her up. And playing a lot of German cruisers have helped far as the guns.

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I've never made as much use of my spotter aircraft as I have on this ship.  14 km from a T8 BB is scary, but 16-17 isn't so bad.  If shooting at small, agile, kiting me is your best shot, by all means.

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The ship works well for me.

 

I find it a fun T6.

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really like mine. That speed and maneuverability has already frustrated a good few BB captains, and that AP shell velocity is a nightmare for thinly armored cruisers. Oh, and it's fun having a cruiser that can outrun some DD's. There's no escaping. :trollface:    

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The ship works well for me.

 

I find it a fun T6.

 

No, no, no it doesn't fit my play style. I can't farm fire damage. Therefor it sucks. 

 

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No, no, no it doesn't fit my play style. I can't farm fire damage. Therefor it sucks. 

 

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Nice misdirection. The problem with having crappy HE isn't the lack of fire damage - it's the inability to effectively hurt battleships. In this regard, Duca reminds me of an Akizuki without IFHE - IE, "lol, that tickles."

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No, no, no it doesn't fit my play style. I can't farm fire damage. Therefor it sucks. 

 

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Farm harder then!

Racking up the damage in it isn't to bad.

 

 

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