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So why is there no premium DD for Germany? USN, IJN, and VMF all have 3 (counting Kamis as one). All cruiser lines have a bunch of premiums. Quite a few German and US BBs, IJN could use one. Even French and British ships for future lines.

 

IJN CVs only other line without a premium and that's coming soon.

 

Polish and Pan Asian DDs too.

 

So why is this the only line without one ?

 

I'm about to get the next level ship and would be nice to work off the transfer penalty.  Line has been out for some time, what gives?

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It'll probably be a Narvik-class (Z-36 or similar). If I were to hazard a guess as to what's taking so long, then it'd be that WG are having trouble balancing her for Tier VIII—she's a bit more powerful than the Z-23 we have now, but probably not quite as "good" as the hypothetical Z-46 at Tier IX.

 

Plus, there's the question of what to name her.

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Yes Please!!

 

Once Haida is added, the circle will be complete. 

 

Blys, ZH-1 , Z-32 and Haida. 

 

historical battle simulation Battle of Ushant here we comeeeee!!!! 

 

 

@OP 

 

Honestly, the fact that there is no Tier 8 Premium DD outside of Lo Yang is so silly. 

 

There is no tier 8 Premium DD's from any of the main lines.. lets let that sink in for a moment. 

 

*Moment

 

WGing! Get on it! 

Edited by Cobraclutch

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We need another good Tier 6 Premium DD. Plenty of 5s and 7s. Anshan is the only normal T6. (Shinonome was a reward ship.)

 

The German DD line needs some attention too. A nice Premium would help. 

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Exactly what I was thinking.

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It'll probably be a Narvik-class (Z-36 or similar). If I were to hazard a guess as to what's taking so long, then it'd be that WG are having trouble balancing her for Tier VIII—she's a bit more powerful than the Z-23 we have now, but probably not quite as "good" as the hypothetical Z-46 at Tier IX.

 

Plus, there's the question of what to name her.

 

I think Z-32 is a perfect fit for Tier 8. 

 

Give her the extra gun barrel and take away Hydro? 

 

It would be perfect. 

 

ZH-1 for lower tier. 

 

Z-32 for Tier 8 

 

Haida 

 

Blys 

 

Maybe even one of the RN Tribals as a premium.. You could justify Tartar as a RN Tier 8 Premium due to her 4x2 loadout. 

 

 

And you have all the ships from Ushant... These ships are all so interconnected with one another it would be a shame if they din't all appear in game together. 

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Yes Please!!

 

Once Haida is added, the circle will be complete. 

 

Blys, ZH-1 , Z-32 and Haida. 

 

historical battle simulation Battle of Ushant here we comeeeee!!!! 

 

 

@OP 

 

Honestly, the fact that there is no Tier 8 Premium DD outside of Lo Yang is so silly. 

 

There is no tier 8 Premium DD's from any of the main lines.. lets let that sink in for a moment. 

 

*Moment

 

WGing! Get on it! 

We are about to get a tier 8 with Kidd

Edited by renegadestatuz

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We are about to get a tier 8 with the Kidd

 

I know I can't wait! 

 

I really have been looking for any kind of tidbit about kidd. But all is quiet since about 2 weeks ago :(

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I know I can't wait! 

 

I really have been looking for any kind of tidbit about kidd. But all is quiet since about 2 weeks ago :(

She went into supertesting today :)

So we are about to start hearing and seeing a lot about her. Especially from the CCs soon. As well as the French premium.

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So why is there no premium DD for Germany? USN, IJN, and VMF all have 3 (counting Kamis as one). All cruiser lines have a bunch of premiums. Quite a few German and US BBs, IJN could use one. Even French and British ships for future lines.

 

IJN CVs only other line without a premium and that's coming soon.

 

Polish and Pan Asian DDs too.

 

So why is this the only line without one ?

 

I'm about to get the next level ship and would be nice to work off the transfer penalty.  Line has been out for some time, what gives?

 

Most premium ships have a reputation and colorful story behind them that adds to the sell value. 

 

As it is, the most stand out WWII destroyer from Germany to me is the Leberecht Maass. However, that is in the tech tree. Even if they reshuffle the names back to the project name, the only claim to fame the Maass has is getting beaten by docked Polish ships and getting team killed. 

 

I want a German premium DD but can not think of anything that stands out that's not already in game 

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Most premium ships have a reputation and colorful story behind them that adds to the sell value. 

 

As it is, the most stand out WWII destroyer from Germany to me is the Leberecht Maass. However, that is in the tech tree. Even if they reshuffle the names back to the project name, the only claim to fame the Maass has is getting beaten by docked Polish ships and getting team killed. 

 

I want a German premium DD but can not think of anything that stands out that's not already in game 

 

out of curiosity what is her claim to fame? On mobile ATM . 

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Because it's be a hard sell.

 

I'd buy it. :)

If it has 150mm, even better :D

Have it be T7 or T8. The only other T8 premium destroyer is for a two ship tree. I don't see how it could do very badly.

I mean, make it the 1936B Zerstörer, as it would be on par with the Z-23. Five single mount 150mms vs the Z-23's three single-one double layout. The 1936B also goes 36.5kmph vs the Z-23's 37kmph, so give the '36B 4s rudder shift vs the 4.5s. Then since they are all single mount, you can reduce the reload enough for a straight 6s reload. (To boost rpm to 10 vs the Z-23's 8.96~9.) in return, maybe give the '36B 8km torpedoes?

 

That would mean the following (Z-23 in right, '36B on left):

Survivability

Health Pool: 19,500hp < 20,000hp

 

Gunnery

Rpm: ~9rpm < 10rpm

Reload: 6.7 < 6.0

Turret Traverse: 22.5s/180' > 24s/180'

 

Torpedoes

Torpedoes: 9.5km > 8.0km

Torpedo Speed: 66kt < 70kt

Torpedo Damage: 14,400dmg < 15,000dmg

 

Maneuverability

Speed: 37kt > 36.5kt

Rudder: 4.5s < 4.0s

Turning radii: 680m < 660m

 

Concealment

Surface Concealment: 7.9km > 8.2km

Air Concealment: 4.3km > 4.5km

 

Keep gun damage, fire %, pen, etc. the same.

Slap Z-44 on the bow, and I'd buy that thing, most definitely!

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She was the first of the type 1934 destroyers, the first destroyers that Germany completed in WWII. 

she went on 2 missions. 

 

The first she came out second best against anchored Polish ships, and the second or third mission she sunk. Reports say that she either sailed into British naval mines or was sunk by a German bomber. 

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Yep, and slap on the name of Z-32 and you have a deal :) 

 

 

She was the first of the type 1934 destroyers, the first destroyers that Germany completed in WWII. 

she went on 2 missions. 

 

The first she came out second best against anchored Polish ships, and the second or third mission she sunk. Reports say that she either sailed into British naval mines or was sunk by a German bomber. 

 

 

Interesting, do you feel like Z-32 would be a good candidate for Tier 8? 

 

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Yep, and slap on the name of Z-32 and you have a deal :) 

 

 

 

 

Interesting, do you feel like Z-32 would be a good candidate for Tier 8? 

 

I think the 5 guns opposed to 4 would make people question why they should bother with the Z-23. But locked into those guns without an option for the 128s would be a good counter balance(I am biased on which guns I use) if anything, it would probably be the one I'd pick. 

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Yep, and slap on the name of Z-32 and you have a deal :) 

 

 

 

 

Interesting, do you feel like Z-32 would be a good candidate for Tier 8? 

 

 

​Actually, Z-32 is a 1936A(Mob), so you can instead  choose Z35, Z36, Z43, Z44, and Z45, which are 1936B Zerstorers.

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She was the first of the type 1934 destroyers, the first destroyers that Germany completed in WWII. 

she went on 2 missions. 

 

The first she came out second best against anchored Polish ships, and the second or third mission she sunk. Reports say that she either sailed into British naval mines or was sunk by a German bomber. 

 

If you haven't already. Take a look at this article it describes the battle of Ushant in great detail.

 

http://scholars.wlu.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1117&context=cmh

 

The duel between Haida and Z-32 is a good read IMO. 

 

On page... 16 until 19.

 

 

​Actually, Z-32 is a 1936A(Mob), so you can instead  choose Z35, Z36, Z43, Z44, and Z45, which are 1936B Zerstorers.

 

 

Yea but she has the same loadout as the B class no? 

 

5x1 15cm ? 

 

*EDIT

 

No wait I am confused..

 

1936 B had the 5x1 127? 

 

1936A (MOB) had the 5x1 15cm 

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If you haven't already. Take a look at this article it describes the battle of Ushant in great detail.

 

http://scholars.wlu.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1117&context=cmh

 

The duel between Haida and Z-32 is a good read IMO. 

 

On page... 16 until 19.

 

 

 

Yea but she has the same loadout as the B class no? 

 

5x1 15cm ? 

 

​Not that I see. All 1936A's seem to have Z-23's 150mm loadout.

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/destroyer/zerstorer1936amob/index.html

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/destroyer/zerstorer1936b/index.html

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