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I have both, but can't decide which one I enjoy most.  What are your thoughts on them?

 

I am sure there are some good breakdowns of the main differences/strengths/weaknesses around here somewhere..

 

I heard that Warspite catches fire easier?  Seems that Arizona is slightly more tanky (armor wise), also seems like Arizona has a harder (stronger) alpha strike.  Please elaborate on the differences :)

 

BTW: Tier 6/7 seems to be the best/funnest tier in game right now.

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I prefer Arizona as it has better guns and is indeed "tankier".  Warspite is faster but that advantage is more than balanced out by it's horrible turret traverse and lack luster guns compared to Arizona

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If Arizona had not come along, I'd still be in my New Mexico, and I still much prefer her to Warspite, which sits in port a lot these days.

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I don't have Warspite, so my opinion won't be fully educated.  However, Arizona is amazing.  Her accuracy and tight dispersion patterns are almost troll-ish and she tanks very well.  She is one of my few ships at Tier 6 that I have no frustration taking into Tier 8 matches.  She is light on AA, of course, and her biggest problem is her slow speed.  I have had several games where I have gone 1v1 with a North Carolina or Amagi, beat them up and made them turn tail.  Priceless!

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Arizona is better IMO, the turret traverse in the Warspite just kills my game experience.

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Sure, I'll bite:

 

Warspite Advantages over Arizona

  • 381mm main armament can overmatch the bows of tier 6 and 7 Battleships.
  • Her main armament is more accurate(*)
  • Her main armament reloads more quickly.
  • Excellent secondary gun battery.
  • Second-best AA defense among the tier 6 Battleships
  • Faster and far more agile than Arizona (like it's not even a contest -- Warspite turns a full degree per second faster).
  • Warspite is more stealthy.
  • Better Damage Control Party
  • Better Repair Party

 

Arizona Advantage over Warspite

  • More hit points.
  • Better armour layout.
  • Bigger alpha strike.
  • Better overall DPM despite her slower reload.
  • Much improved range.
  • Better gun handling.

 

* - Tests are still being done to understand just how battleship accuracy works.  This point is based off of the smaller horizontal dispersion over distance possessed by British Battleships combined with Warspite's 2.0 sigma value versus the 1.8 of Arizona.

 

So it looks like Warspite has more advantages going for it, doesn't it?  Well, sure, but more advantages doesn't necessarily make her better.  Arizona has it where it counts:  Firepower and durability.  This alone will carry many battles and will definitely make Arizona seem like a better contender in most situations.  This makes Warspite more of a ship that requires finesse and experience to do well in.  She has a lot of gimmicks that need to be properly managed while Arizona is about as subtle as a brick:  Arizona applies heavy firepower and lets the resulting explosions sort out the messes she finds herself in.

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I like my Arizona better, but haven't played the Warspite enough to have a proper feel for it. It helps to have a 19 point USN bb captain ready to throw on the Arizona. 

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Warspite's skill floor does indeed make her "less comfortable" to play, mostly because of the turret traverse as mentioned. 

I still did well with her, but, why fight a ship when you can run one that works better for you?  My good matches in Warspite were VERY situational, unlike Arizona (or New Mexico for that matter), where it is just a better all around experience.

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Sure, I'll bite:

 

Warspite Advantages over Arizona

  • 381mm main armament can overmatch the bows of tier 6 and 7 Battleships.
  • Her main armament is more accurate(*)
  • Her main armament reloads more quickly.
  • Excellent secondary gun battery.
  • Second-best AA defense among the tier 6 Battleships
  • Faster and far more agile than Arizona (like it's not even a contest -- Warspite turns a full degree per second faster).
  • Warspite is more stealthy.
  • Better Damage Control Party
  • Better Repair Party

 

Arizona Advantage over Warspite

  • More hit points.
  • Better armour layout.
  • Bigger alpha strike.
  • Better overall DPM despite her slower reload.
  • Much improved range.
  • Better gun handling.

 

* - Tests are still being done to understand just how battleship accuracy works.  This point is based off of the smaller horizontal dispersion over distance possessed by British Battleships combined with Warspite's 2.0 sigma value versus the 1.8 of Arizona.

 

So it looks like Warspite has more advantages going for it, doesn't it?  Well, sure, but more advantages doesn't necessarily make her better.  Arizona has it where it counts:  Firepower and durability.  This alone will carry many battles and will definitely make Arizona seem like a better contender in most situations.  This makes Warspite more of a ship that requires finesse and experience to do well in.  She has a lot of gimmicks that need to be properly managed while Arizona is about as subtle as a brick:  Arizona applies heavy firepower and lets the resulting explosions sort out the messes she finds herself in.

 

Thanks for taking the time to help mouse

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Sure, I'll bite:

 

Warspite Advantages over Arizona

  • 381mm main armament can overmatch the bows of tier 6 and 7 Battleships.
  • Her main armament is more accurate(*)
  • Her main armament reloads more quickly.
  • Excellent secondary gun battery.
  • Second-best AA defense among the tier 6 Battleships
  • Faster and far more agile than Arizona (like it's not even a contest -- Warspite turns a full degree per second faster).
  • Warspite is more stealthy.
  • Better Damage Control Party
  • Better Repair Party

 

Arizona Advantage over Warspite

  • More hit points.
  • Better armour layout.
  • Bigger alpha strike.
  • Better overall DPM despite her slower reload.
  • Much improved range.
  • Better gun handling.

 

* - Tests are still being done to understand just how battleship accuracy works.  This point is based off of the smaller horizontal dispersion over distance possessed by British Battleships combined with Warspite's 2.0 sigma value versus the 1.8 of Arizona.

 

So it looks like Warspite has more advantages going for it, doesn't it?  Well, sure, but more advantages doesn't necessarily make her better.  Arizona has it where it counts:  Firepower and durability.  This alone will carry many battles and will definitely make Arizona seem like a better contender in most situations.  This makes Warspite more of a ship that requires finesse and experience to do well in.  She has a lot of gimmicks that need to be properly managed while Arizona is about as subtle as a brick:  Arizona applies heavy firepower and lets the resulting explosions sort out the messes she finds herself in.

 

But Arizona has a better DCP because it lasts 20 sec rather than 5

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The deciding difference, in my opinion, is the Warspite's combination of caliber and accuracy. Because you can stay at range and hit other ships very reliably you don't need to test its sub par armor. Additionally you can penetrate all other tier 6 BBs through the front, and get citadels in that fashion.

 

Not to say that Arizona isn't great, with its solid armor and huge broadside. But in the hands of a skilled player Warspite has more leveragable advantages.

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In my opinion the Arizona is hands down a better ship, but the Warspite is more fun to play because of its incredible maneuverability. Although I love both ships and can't pick a favorite, I feel like I do a little better in the Arizona. 

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But Arizona has a better DCP because it lasts 20 sec rather than 5

 

Immunity windows be damned.  I'll gladly take a 60s reset timer over 80s. 

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The armor though, really isnt that much of a difference is it?  I mean arent both ships practically identical if angled?

 

And does Warspite technically catch fire easier?

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Warspite to be honest. Arizona doesn't uptier nearly as well.

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I have enjoyed the Warspite more due to the great accuracy and the larger caliber guns but this enjoyment only became apparent when I played her enough to know how to use her well. The AZ is still a lot of fun to play but being so slow is a bit annoying.

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My Warspite burns a lot, but I haven't played enough Arizona battles to compare. That said, Her Majesty's Ship can heal back from almost dead to almost 100% health. Mouse's assessment is bang on, either way.

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You have skillz? Warspite

You don't care? Arizona

Both are good but the Arizona is much easier to handle. With the Warspite you learn how to read the minimap and position yourself because it's faster to remove the turrets and set them back into the barbette then to wait till they turned by themselfs. If you are unlucky enough to meet a CV you better come with some cruiser that protects you if you are in a Arizona. Her AA is a few guys with some airguns. The Warspite has the better AA and you have a chance to outmanouver the torps.

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I like Arizona when I wanna beat up ships bring democracy at tier 6

 

I like Warspite when I want to colonize tier 6

 

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Its about the sound track:

 

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Warspite to be honest. Arizona doesn't uptier nearly as well.

 

That's funny, I would have said the exact opposite. Warspite gets chewed up by T8 BB's at all angles. 

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Warspite,

Mouse is correct in the assessment but

Warspite.

I actually sold my Arizona because she was too damn slow and could not hang in a fight. The secondary's on the Warspite with improvements make the difference.

I have achieved dreadnought so many times on my Warspite its not funny.

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Warspite is the only BB that can repair citadel damage.

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I heard that Warspite catches fire easier? 

 

And does Warspite technically catch fire easier?

 

Sub_Octavian answered this in a podcast interview.  All tier 6 premium ships have the same chance to catch fire per shell.  Warspite is no more flammable than Arizona, Dunkerque, Mutsu or any fully upgraded tech tree Battleship (New Mexico, Bayern, Fuso).  It's all in people's heads.

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You have skillz? Warspite

You don't care? Arizona

Both are good but the Arizona is much easier to handle. With the Warspite you learn how to read the minimap and position yourself because it's faster to remove the turrets and set them back into the barbette then to wait till they turned by themselfs. If you are unlucky enough to meet a CV you better come with some cruiser that protects you if you are in a Arizona. Her AA is a few guys with some airguns. The Warspite has the better AA and you have a chance to outmanouver the torps.

 

Pretty much; Once I 'got gud' with Warspite, (armor angling, damage control/repair efficiancy, knowing how to manuever so as to HELP the turrets turn, instead of masking them longer than neccessary, Warspite became a blast to play; nothing like facing off against to equal-tier battleships and listing to the 'bonk!' of a deflection.)

 

Arizona I liked because I'd already 'learned' to play it by using New Mexico. Some differences, but not really enough to matter.

 

Warspite agonizing slow turret turning radius, Arizona's is much better it plays exactly like New Mexico.  I own Arizona I do not own Warspite.

 

Warspite's turrets are all about planning and managing your turns. It's a very rare battle where I have issues with the rotation speed.

 

That's funny, I would have said the exact opposite. Warspite gets chewed up by T8 BB's at all angles. 

 

That''s why when I get uptiered like that, I let the meatshields Bismarks and such go first, and concentrate on beating up cruisers and destroyers.

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