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Let's assume that the next season of ranked is going to be Tier 6. How would you spec the Farragut for ranked battle?

 

The modules seem pretty no brainer: Main Armaments, Aiming Systems, Steering Gear 1, and Propulsion Mod 2. How would you spec the captain skills? I have mine currently like this.

 

Preventative maintenance

Last stand

Adrenaline rush

Superintendent

BFT

Concealment expert

RPF

 

How does this look for ranked? If it's tier 6 then radar cruisers won't be around, and smoke becomes very common, so RPF seems like a decent skill to have.

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I will be using my Fuso more... but I have almost all the tier 6 with a few of them having a 15 or so point capt.... it will be interesting

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Wouldn't surprise me if they did T6/T8 split again.

 

So yeah, PM/LS/SI/CE for the base, then AR and whatever suits your style best. VIG could also work in Ranked, just like RPF, BFT/AFT especially if you want to take a Russian boat (honestly, the T8 Kiev...I won't say it doesn't tempt me). VIG would stack with german hydro (or Lo Yang at Tier 8), TAE if you are going for torp spam...

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I'm pretty sure any DD I'm in will have RPF for sure.

 

I haven't decided yet what other skills I'll run, but I'm gonna wait and see what the Tubers suggest.

 

At least two of them will give you the rundown.

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How would you spec the Farragut for ranked battle?

 

I wouldn't, I would get a ship which was more competitive, such as Anshan, Farragut is ... a challenge.

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BFT and AR are must-haves in my opinion. Improving your DPM makes contesting caps much easier, which is what USN DDs are made for. 

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I will be using Anshan for the most part. If you completed the Campaign that gives the free premium Shinonome you may consider using that ship. I will be switching between the two when playing DDs.

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Let's assume that the next season of ranked is going to be Tier 6. How would you spec the Farragut for ranked battle?

 

The modules seem pretty no brainer: Main Armaments, Aiming Systems, Steering Gear 1, and Propulsion Mod 2. How would you spec the captain skills? I have mine currently like this.

 

Preventative maintenance

Last stand

Adrenaline rush

Superintendent

BFT

Concealment expert

RPF

 

How does this look for ranked? If it's tier 6 then radar cruisers won't be around, and smoke becomes very common, so RPF seems like a decent skill to have.

 

This is more or less how I build my USN DD captains, for Ranked and in general for Randoms.  For T7+, I think Survivability Expert is a better choice over BFT, but since the benefit of SE is tied to tier, at T6 BFT might be a better choice.  Hard to say; I haven't had to make this decision yet as my dedicated Farragut captain is only at 16 pts.

 

RPF is much more useful in Ranked than it is in Randoms, due to the smaller team size and stronger emphasis on cap control.

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farragut is strong ship (as good as sims at t7)      pt/ls/se/ce  is my first 10 followed by   AR and BFT.   for 15.      It is going to be the cap bully for t6.  No real uber concealment ship at t6. (best being 6.1 for fubuki/shino)       Otherwise, I will probably go with shino over anshan.   both has similar capability except shino has short range guns with more torp spamming, which will help with conceal as well as smoke torping.        due to santa's convoy, I have lot of option at t6.   

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farragut is strong ship (as good as sims at t7)      pt/ls/se/ce  is my first 10 followed by   AR and BFT.   for 15.      It is going to be the cap bully for t6.  No real uber concealment ship at t6. (best being 6.1 for fubuki/shino)       Otherwise, I will probably go with shino over anshan.   both has similar capability except shino has short range guns with more torp spamming, which will help with conceal as well as smoke torping.        due to santa's convoy, I have lot of option at t6.   

 

Hatsuharu goes to 5.8, Gnevny to 6.1 as well. Actually IMO every single T6 DD is worth playing and very strong. I have a hard time picking one.

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Don't take RPF. It's not worth it.

 

​It is if you know how to use it. In ranked with smaller teams it will be amazing. 
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If you are really set on using farragut, which I would advise against, as others have stated plainly. I would run Priority target, adrenaline rush, last stand, basic firing training, and concealment. there are others that I would use, but with the rate of fire on the farragut, that increase from adrenaline rush will aid in setting fires.

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Is it really likely the next ranked season will be Tier 6? I think that's a great idea. No radar, no massive guns, no insane secondary builds, no Siapans with tier 9 planes..... 

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I use the same 10 points on all DD, no matter what nation:

 

1. PM

2. LS

3. SURVIVAL EXPERT 

4. CE

 

After those 10 points I build for the specific ship/role. 

 

RPF is high priority for IJN DD and ranked play in general.

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farragut is strong ship (as good as sims at t7)      pt/ls/se/ce  is my first 10 followed by   AR and BFT.   for 15.      It is going to be the cap bully for t6.  No real uber concealment ship at t6. (best being 6.1 for fubuki/shino)       Otherwise, I will probably go with shino over anshan.   both has similar capability except shino has short range guns with more torp spamming, which will help with conceal as well as smoke torping.        due to santa's convoy, I have lot of option at t6.   

 

hatsuharu has best concealment at tier 6, and for someone that knows what they are doing it is a significant difference.

 

Ahshan and shinonome couldnt be more different, shino is slow with low HP, anshan is fast with lots of HP. Anshan with a high point captain is going to be strong.

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I wouldn't, I would get a ship which was more competitive, such as Anshan, Farragut is ... a challenge.

 

I must respectfully disagree with you on this. Farragut is one of the most underrated DDs in the game. She has very competitive DPM. She's quick and more maneuverable than any of the other T6 DDs. Her turret traverse is excellent (I'm looking at you Anshan). If CVs start showing up, you can mount Defensive AA on the C hull. Perhaps most importantly, she has USN smoke. 

 

RPF:  are we going to debate its utility after the last season of Ranked?  I didn't start out using it because I thought (and still think) it shouldn't be in the game. However, I started seeing RPF more and more starting at Rank 10. By Rank 3 it was very rare for me to be the only DD with RPF. Need to know which cap the enemy is pushing first? Which direction do I need to point my turrets as I approach the cap to get that vital first salvo on target? Torp DD trying to flank?  NOT. Is Leander still in her smoke cloud?  

 

You might say "RPF is only for Noob Lords" but you would be wrong. I think RPF actually has a high skill floor. IOW you need to know all the other stuff - minimap awareness, likely DD approaches, relative strengths and weaknesses of various DDs - before RPF becomes really useful. You also need experience to understand exactly what it is telling you and what it is NOT telling you. Like that might be a Leander coming around that island instead of the Gnevny you saw a little while ago. Or that there's a torp DD between you and that Cleveland 10 km out. 

 

Im sorry but Anshan is the last T6 DD I'd take into Ranked. Yes she has 8km torps but her turrets are rusted to the decks and she handles like a Russian DD. I do well in Anshan in Random but Ranked... no. 

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Faragut has low HP, poor concealment,  very short range torps, and is effectively outgunned by all other DD, including IJN. The only thing the faragut has is better smoke. Very much a no on this boat for me.

 

 

 

 

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I must respectfully disagree with you on this. Farragut is one of the most underrated DDs in the game. She has very competitive DPM. She's quick and more maneuverable than any of the other T6 DDs. Her turret traverse is excellent (I'm looking at you Anshan). If CVs start showing up, you can mount Defensive AA on the C hull. Perhaps most importantly, she has USN smoke.

 

RPF:  are we going to debate its utility after the last season of Ranked?  I didn't start out using it because I thought (and still think) it shouldn't be in the game. However, I started seeing RPF more and more starting at Rank 10. By Rank 3 it was very rare for me to be the only DD with RPF. Need to know which cap the enemy is pushing first? Which direction do I need to point my turrets as I approach the cap to get that vital first salvo on target? Torp DD trying to flank?  NOT. Is Leander still in her smoke cloud?

 

You might say "RPF is only for Noob Lords" but you would be wrong. I think RPF actually has a high skill floor. IOW you need to know all the other stuff - minimap awareness, likely DD approaches, relative strengths and weaknesses of various DDs - before RPF becomes really useful. You also need experience to understand exactly what it is telling you and what it is NOT telling you. Like that might be a Leander coming around that island instead of the Gnevny you saw a little while ago. Or that there's a torp DD between you and that Cleveland 10 km out.

 

Im sorry but Anshan is the last T6 DD I'd take into Ranked. Yes she has 8km torps but her turrets are rusted to the decks and she handles like a Russian DD. I do well in Anshan in Random but Ranked... no.

 

You don't have to be respectful when you disagree with me, amigo; no one else is! (but thanks, all the same)

 

After Nicholas, I struggled with Farragut, really missed the quad launchers 2 to a side.

Anshan I took to like a duck takes to water; love that ship.

She definitely plays Russian, and yes, like all Russian DD's, she has crap turret rotation.

I play her the same way I play Leningrad or Khab.

 

Might come down to nothing more than playstyle.

After playing Sims, I have issues with most USN DD's.

The ones which have surprised me recently are the Germans;

Z-46 is a monster, but Gaede lacks something at tier 6 that those 150's just don't quite make up for.

 

So, I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

(which is also ok, the list of people who disagree with me is almost as long as the list of people who have killed me, LOL!!)

 

and as far as RPF goes; it will be interesting to see how much it influences ranked this season.

my bet is a lot.

 

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Don't take RPF. It's not worth it.

 

RPF is pretty valuable.  Especially in ranked where CVs will be available less than 10% of battles.  RPF boats will be the best scouts.  I still feel RPF is too powerful and should be removed.

 

The down side of RPF is you give up a lot of direct combat capability for that information.  I have a few different 19 point US DD builds that I use for Supremacy League, one is has RPF. 

 

RPF IMO is a really strong pick on my IJN DDs.  The excellent concealment coupled with that skill makes me very difficult to deal with. 

 

My DD selections this season range from Anshan (for the credits and the last bump to a 19 point captain), Shinonome, Gaede, maybe Farragut.  I've got 19 point captains for everything but Anshan ready to go.  I kind of want to go Gaede since I believe the German DDs are pretty strong and no radar really gives this boat an edge clearing out caps.  It will be a really entertaining play style.

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Faragut has low HP, poor concealment,  very short range torps, and is effectively outgunned by all other DD, including IJN. The only thing the faragut has is better smoke. Very much a no on this boat for me.

 

 

 

 

 

​Since when? "Effectively" "outgunned" how? By HE alpha damage? Pff. A well captained Farragut can hold its own in T7 and even get by in t8. Not many T6 DD can claim that. The Farragut is a little monster in good hands.

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Anshan murders Farragut.

 

Just kite away and gun it down.  Force him to smoke up.  If he camps in smoke torp him from concealment.  All things Farragut cant do.

 

Farragut only excels at smoke.

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