189 behindurback Beta Testers 447 posts 3,946 battles Report post #1 Posted April 29, 2017 DDs take way too much dmg from BBs why is it possible for my DD to take a 12k salvo from a BB thats ridiculous between the huge dmg from primary guns and the insane secondaries BBs have does DDs even counter BBs anymore dmg taken should be limited to no more than 25% of the DD's hp per salvo, that way BBs can not one shot kill the ship class that supposed to counter it!!!!!1! WG stop pandering to BBs and make classes balanced again!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Lead_Zeppelin Members 1 post Report post #2 Posted April 29, 2017 Most BBs have shells that do over 1k over-pen damage. If you allow yourself to eat that many, then you're probably too close, and are in open water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,848 Wulfgarn Members 5,597 posts 7,121 battles Report post #3 Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) DDs take way too much dmg from BBs why is it possible for my DD to take a 12k salvo from a BB thats ridiculous between the huge dmg from primary guns and the insane secondaries BBs have does DDs even counter BBs anymore dmg taken should be limited to no more than 25% of the DD's hp per salvo, that way BBs can not one shot kill the ship class that supposed to counter it!!!!!1! WG stop pandering to BBs and make classes balanced again!!! BB shots seem heavily assisted. I can have 75% of health taken in one salvo from a max range BB while I'm ducking and dodging. None bow or stern shots. Edited April 29, 2017 by Wulfgarn 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Mordecai19 Members 76 posts 2,341 battles Report post #4 Posted April 29, 2017 BB shots seem heavily assisted. I can have 75% of health taken in one salvo from a max range BB while I'm ducking and dodging. None bow or stern shots. BB's have some of the absolute worst dispersion and sigma values in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,848 Wulfgarn Members 5,597 posts 7,121 battles Report post #5 Posted April 29, 2017 BB's have some of the absolute worst dispersion and sigma values in the game. And yet, they hit as stated above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
182 [WHS] TheBlackWind Beta Testers 1,073 posts 14,295 battles Report post #6 Posted April 29, 2017 This makes me chuckle a bit... DD's can one shot a BB easily if the BB isn't paying attn, so why should a BB not be able to one shot a DD if it's not paying attn? 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,883 [YORHA] JCC45 Members 5,460 posts 12,103 battles Report post #7 Posted April 29, 2017 And yet, they hit as stated above. Sorry, but rules are rules. Replay or it didn't happen. Although the higher tier KM BB's no-skill-secondaries are foolish. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,750 [FOXEH] Kitsunelegend Beta Testers 6,103 posts 1,313 battles Report post #8 Posted April 29, 2017 You're basically saying you want all your BB kills to be super easy, where the BB has no ability to fight back against you at all and defend himself, while you can launch a single torp salvo and pretty one hit K/O that same BB? Cause thats what I'm hearing. You need to be slapped upside the head. With a car. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
222 [AWP] Atom_Alchemist [AWP] Members 1,023 posts Report post #9 Posted April 29, 2017 BB shots seem heavily assisted. I can have 75% of health taken in one salvo from a max range BB while I'm ducking and dodging. None bow or stern shots. yea. i'm calling [edited]on you on this. bb ap shells almost always overpen destroyers, so even with low health destroyers you are looking at requiring a minimum of 9 hits to get that 75% figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [K-P-M] Montana_Prussian Members 1,616 posts 18,452 battles Report post #10 Posted April 29, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #11 Posted April 29, 2017 Take a Bismarck for example (from da web): Maximum range: 35,550 meters at 30° = 38,880 yards at 30°Muzzle velocity: 820 meters/second = 2,690 feet/secondShell weight: 800 kg = 1,764 lbs You got almost 1800 POUNDS of shell coming down on you at initially TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED, NINETY FEET PER SECOND. You're lucky your DD does not get cut in half purely by the kinetic energy in such a round. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
360 Rion12 Members 2,072 posts 2,712 battles Report post #12 Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) I don't think I've ever managed to lose 5-digit amounts of HP from a single BB salvo in a DD. The BB player had to have gotten insanely lucky to pull that off, with either about 8-10 overpens (and who even manages to land 10 shots in a single salvo with any level of consistency?) or about 3-4 normal pens (getting 1 is already somewhat insane, but 3-4 is basically part of a deal with the devil). Exaggerations just make it harder to take the point seriously. Edited April 29, 2017 by Rion12 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,361 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,649 posts 7,316 battles Report post #13 Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Take a Bismarck for example (from da web): Maximum range: 35,550 meters at 30° = 38,880 yards at 30°Muzzle velocity: 820 meters/second = 2,690 feet/secondShell weight: 800 kg = 1,764 lbs You got almost 1800 POUNDS of shell coming down on you at initially TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED, NINETY FEET PER SECOND. You're lucky your DD does not get cut in half purely by the kinetic energy in such a round. But then again, the Fuso sank from as single ship-launched torpedo. So...this game would be less interesting if ships got crushed from the first hit. Edited April 29, 2017 by Sventex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,539 [BNKR] CaptainKaitoGhost [BNKR] Members 2,882 posts 2,681 battles Report post #14 Posted April 29, 2017 Didn't someone make this exact thread a month or so ago? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
422 ckupf Members 1,947 posts 8,913 battles Report post #15 Posted April 29, 2017 BB shots seem heavily assisted. I can have 75% of health taken in one salvo from a max range BB while I'm ducking and dodging. None bow or stern shots. 2800 DD games and this has never happened to me. BBs can be devastating if they hit a penetrating shot length wise, but they never hit more than 1 at long ranges, dispersion is just too massive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56 [CAFE] Neltak Members 394 posts 11,074 battles Report post #16 Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) Most of the time when shooting at DDs at range I get 1-4K salvos (1-3 over pens and an odd regular pen). Sometimes the stars align and there are multiple regular pens, but that is rare at range. At close range-let's say Edited April 29, 2017 by Neltak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
804 Wowzery Members 4,608 posts Report post #17 Posted April 29, 2017 Didn't someone make this exact thread a month or so ago? Yes, and it was just as ridiculous back then as it is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,490 [---] Raptor_alcor Banned 6,739 posts 10,146 battles Report post #18 Posted April 29, 2017 BB shots seem heavily assisted. I can have 75% of health taken in one salvo from a max range BB while I'm ducking and dodging. None bow or stern shots. do you even play battleships? You always remember that one super bad event and forget the 80% of the time where you take one shell or even less due to RNG spread going F YOU to the battleship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #19 Posted April 29, 2017 why is it possible for my DD to take a 12k salvo from a BB I can have 75% of health taken in one salvo from a max range BB while I'm ducking and dodging. Let me know who the players are that do this to you on a regular basis. I want to be able to do this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
227 [SPTR] SullyQuindarius Members 2,462 posts 3,945 battles Report post #20 Posted April 29, 2017 The last two destroyers I deleted were a Yugumo and a Ognevoi. The Yugumo I got lucky and detonated with a hit from my secondaries in my Iowa. The Ognevoi tried to YOLO me in my Alabama, when he started turning to drop torps at 4.5km I threw a full barrage in his face and got 2 regular pens plus 5 overpens for a nice deletion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,126 Shadowrigger1 Members 4,533 posts 18,504 battles Report post #21 Posted April 29, 2017 This post, Again ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
706 [SOV] Brohk Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,873 posts 11,628 battles Report post #22 Posted April 29, 2017 I don't think I've ever managed to lose 5-digit amounts of HP from a single BB salvo in a DD. The BB player had to have gotten insanely lucky to pull that off, with either about 8-10 overpens (and who even manages to land 10 shots in a single salvo with any level of consistency?) or about 3-4 normal pens (getting 1 is already somewhat insane, but 3-4 is basically part of a deal with the devil). Exaggerations just make it harder to take the point seriously. No no, you got that backwards, exaggerations let you know how serious the issue really is! For example; Last game my Iowa was set on fire eleventy-hundred times and took over 400k fire damage! Cruiser nerf plz?! No seriously, it's true! Spoiler What, I told you it's true! Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #23 Posted April 29, 2017 do you even play battleships? 4-5% of the time, yes lol. In contrast, Kamikaze R gets played over 20% of the time.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,106 battles Report post #24 Posted April 29, 2017 DDs take way too much dmg from BBs why is it possible for my DD to take a 12k salvo from a BB thats ridiculous between the huge dmg from primary guns and the insane secondaries BBs have does DDs even counter BBs anymore dmg taken should be limited to no more than 25% of the DD's hp per salvo, that way BBs can not one shot kill the ship class that supposed to counter it!!!!!1! WG stop pandering to BBs and make classes balanced again!!! If you're taking massive damage from a BB in a DD, you've done screwed up. All there is to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,596 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 28,311 battles Report post #25 Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) So is this supposed to be some sort of counterbalance for polluting the forum with this cancer from a few months ago? http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/113392-this-new-captain-skills-is-a-huge-buff-for-dds-and-cruisers-bbs-almost-unplayable/ Edited April 29, 2017 by TenguBlade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites