85 Auriana Members 183 posts 6,603 battles Report post #1 Posted April 28, 2017 Float planes need a massive nerf. Its totally idiotic how powerful they are. These were primarily used as spotters with VERY VERY limited fighter capability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
222 [AWP] Atom_Alchemist [AWP] Members 1,023 posts Report post #2 Posted April 28, 2017 They don't stand up to any real AA or a fighter sqaudran unless they hilariously are a much higher tier then the fighter sqaudran. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #3 Posted April 28, 2017 But they were nerfed BBs only get seaplane fighters with 90s up time, instead of the 360s you get on cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,150 [HINON] RivertheRoyal Privateers 6,266 posts 3,405 battles Report post #4 Posted April 28, 2017 Eh...What? Why not just...shoot them down? Voila, no panic spread.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
537 [KNTAI] Battlecruiser_Amagi [KNTAI] Members 3,134 posts 9,120 battles Report post #5 Posted April 28, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
116 [Y81] BanditSE1977 Members 836 posts 4,556 battles Report post #6 Posted April 28, 2017 They don't stand up to any real AA or a fighter sqaudran unless they hilariously are a much higher tier then the fighter sqaudran. Yup,that lone fighter or two if you have DCCA is SO OP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #7 Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) whose crazy blog site did I stumble upon? http://www.combatreform.org/seaplanefighters.htm Edited April 28, 2017 by MrDeaf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,144 [SOUP] Chobittsu Members 9,386 posts Report post #8 Posted April 28, 2017 *Puts on my old Warthunder.Live-era officers cap... which is identical to my WoWS officers cap* CARE TO FIGHT ME ON THAT, LITTLE MAN? Japan had entire floatplane divisions during the war and they all were generally as successful as their land-based counterparts. The A6M2-N was a highly effective fighter and harasser, and the F1M, despite being a scout and spotter also made a fair fighter. I've spent the better part of the past 2-3 years studying floatplanes and flying boats. What are your credentials? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25 [SOUP] _Nipa_Katajainen Members 13 posts 817 battles Report post #9 Posted April 28, 2017 Høver M.F 11, navy spoter plane but usefull form bombing missions just saying also you have float planes like the Arado AR169 and the Heinkel HE115 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
422 ckupf Members 1,947 posts 8,913 battles Report post #10 Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) I would say 75% of the time my attack plane rear gunners shoot them down before dropping and they *literally* have no effect unless there is more than one. In a DD I can usually take care of one spotting me in 10s or so. Edited April 28, 2017 by ckupf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
903 anonym_OlK73e329bMY Members 3,284 posts Report post #11 Posted April 28, 2017 I use one of those on my Gneisenau. I tend to forget about it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
83 Vaporisor Members 887 posts 1,625 battles Report post #12 Posted April 28, 2017 *Puts on my old Warthunder.Live-era officers cap... which is identical to my WoWS officers cap* CARE TO FIGHT ME ON THAT, LITTLE MAN? Japan had entire floatplane divisions during the war and they all were generally as successful as their land-based counterparts. The A6M2-N was a highly effective fighter and harasser, and the F1M, despite being a scout and spotter also made a fair fighter. I've spent the better part of the past 2-3 years studying floatplanes and flying boats. What are your credentials? See the stern of the Ise, or if want to in game, never hurts to give a good look at the back end of the Izumo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
139 Sethanas Members 739 posts 7,780 battles Report post #13 Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Eh...What? Why not just...shoot them down? Voila, no panic spread....As a CV id say just suck it up or shoot it down As another class.... A few situations where they can spot you, they're inside of your AA range but you can't even see them. Got really pissed at my atlanta in ranked, being lit by a dead players fighter plane and not being able to shoot it down despite being full AA spec with 7.2km AA range if it stays outside of 5km you can't see it let alone shoot it. I'd at least override the spotting mechanics for them, so if its inside of AA range you can spot it. That said, they can be frustrating, but that hardly makes them OP... Edited April 28, 2017 by Sethanas 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,555 [GWG] AVR_Project Members 8,018 posts 15,873 battles Report post #14 Posted April 28, 2017 As a CV id say just suck it up or shoot it down As another class.... A few situations where they can spot you, they're inside of your AA range but you can't even see them. Got really pissed at my atlanta in ranked, being lit by a dead players fighter plane and not being able to shoot it down despite being full AA spec with 7.2km AA range if it stays outside of 5km you can't see it let alone shoot it. I'd at least override the spotting mechanics for them, so if its inside of AA range you can spot it. That said, they can be frustrating, but that hardly makes them OP... Noticed that in my full-spec AA Atlanta in a training room against 3 Hiryu. I was escorting 2 South Carolinas My AA bubble is 7.2K, but I don't spot the planes until they are too close. So my strategy was to drop behind the two old BBs a couple KM to let them spot the planes. ...tactics... learn them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,560 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 7,893 posts 22,049 battles Report post #15 Posted April 28, 2017 Float planes need a massive nerf. Its totally idiotic how powerful they are. Not sure if serious... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
419 [BLNCE] Xenomancers Members 2,293 posts 7,577 battles Report post #16 Posted April 28, 2017 As a CV id say just suck it up or shoot it down As another class.... A few situations where they can spot you, they're inside of your AA range but you can't even see them. Got really pissed at my atlanta in ranked, being lit by a dead players fighter plane and not being able to shoot it down despite being full AA spec with 7.2km AA range if it stays outside of 5km you can't see it let alone shoot it. I'd at least override the spotting mechanics for them, so if its inside of AA range you can spot it. That said, they can be frustrating, but that hardly makes them OP... Exactly - as AA they aren't very good. Maybe make a torp plane panic - that's about it. They are much more useful for spotting DD's. Oh yeah they tend to be invisible a lot too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,455 [FOXEH] DoomStomper Beta Testers 3,985 posts 2,373 battles Report post #17 Posted April 28, 2017 whose crazy blog site did I stumble upon? http://www.combatreform.org/seaplanefighters.htm Do want. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
139 Sethanas Members 739 posts 7,780 battles Report post #18 Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) Noticed that in my full-spec AA Atlanta in a training room against 3 Hiryu. I was escorting 2 South Carolinas My AA bubble is 7.2K, but I don't spot the planes until they are too close. So my strategy was to drop behind the two old BBs a couple KM to let them spot the planes. ...tactics... learn them. You may note that were talking about catapult planes, ergo your bot Hiryus dont mean jack because those planes work very differently. Your training room with your 2 tier 3 bbs is clearly a great indicator of tactics in ranked battles...... In a 7v7 you don't always have stuff that can go out in front of you, especially when you're the one in the cruiser and are supposed to screen your BBs to protect them from DDs and torps... or you're the last one left, as was the case at that time. If you could promptly take your own advice and go learn some tactics maybe you wont make a fool of yourself on the forums and maybe, just MAYBE you might be able to reach a 50% win rate, then again maybe not. Edited April 28, 2017 by Sethanas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
313 Ajax_the_Great1 Members 1,128 posts 7,268 battles Report post #19 Posted April 28, 2017 *Puts on my old Warthunder.Live-era officers cap... which is identical to my WoWS officers cap* CARE TO FIGHT ME ON THAT, LITTLE MAN? Japan had entire floatplane divisions during the war and they all were generally as successful as their land-based counterparts. The A6M2-N was a highly effective fighter and harasser, and the F1M, despite being a scout and spotter also made a fair fighter. I've spent the better part of the past 2-3 years studying floatplanes and flying boats. What are your credentials? You are absolutely talking out your [edited]. Floatplanes were vastly inferior to their non float counterparts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
