Memo to WG: Stop nerfing premiums!

[11thACRColdsteel]

So I had not played my Kamikaze for several months.  I went back to it, and took it into a few battles, and I my torps kept dying early....

At first I thought I was miscalculating range, but then i checked the torp range and it is 5.6 km......when did this get nerfed??????

 

It used to be 6.99 km.  (see http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Kamikaze)

 

Why are you WG continuing to nerf premium ships?????    When will you learn this drives customers away?????

 

This is a bad WG habit, they've done it WOT, WOWP, and now WOWS.  You will lose players and lose revenue as players become more reluctant to buy premiums.  Why would I buy premiums like the Tirp and Kamikaze if you're going nerf the snot out of it?

 

I have ranted about this previously...this is a major detriment to growing the player base in this game....

[awiggin]

Did you use a torp accel captain?

 

Kami-r is same as always, don't have the other clones though.

[11thACRColdsteel]

Did you use a torp accel captain?

 

Kami-r is same as always, don't have the other clones though.

of course...but that is irrelevant.  

 

The minekaze still has the original 7.0 range....so why did WG only whack the premium?????

[Grevester]

of course

And you know torp accel reduces max torp range by 20% right? That 20% on 7km being 1.4km, reducing it to 5.6km.

[Unabletony]

of course...but that is irrelevant.  

 

The minekaze still has the original 7.0 range....so why did WG only whack the premium?????

 

Minekaze's torps were slowed along with (maybe) their detection. Kami is the old version. WG does not nerf Premiums.

 

And also that you used torp acceleration.

[RivertheRoyal]

[awiggin]

of course...but that is irrelevant.  

 

The minekaze still has the original 7.0 range....so why did WG only whack the premium?????

 

WUT? 

 

As Pulicat clearly pointed out, 20% range reduction and +5 knots means you have a range of 5.6. I'm unclear what you're arguing about? Unless you thought I meant Torp expertise?

 

 

[tcbaker777]

So I had not played my Kamikaze for several months.  I went back to it, and took it into a few battles, and I my torps kept dying early....

At first I thought I was miscalculating range, but then i checked the torp range and it is 5.6 km......when did this get nerfed??????

 

It used to be 6.99 km.  (see http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Kamikaze)

 

Why are you WG continuing to nerf premium ships?????    When will you learn this drives customers away?????

 

This is a bad WG habit, they've done it WOT, WOWP, and now WOWS.  You will lose players and lose revenue as players become more reluctant to buy premiums.  Why would I buy premiums like the Tirp and Kamikaze if you're going nerf the snot out of it?

 

I have ranted about this previously...this is a major detriment to growing the player base in this game....

 

well, they've now added "ships stats are subject to change" on premiums in the shop or at least of that Italian cruiser i think it was, so now they can do whatever they want to them with that being said that the ships stats are subject to change, its their game, their products, they get to do whatever they want with them and theres nothing you can do

[Mizzerys_Fate]

Funny thing my fujin Kamikaze and Kamikaze R Torpedoes or 7 kilometer range and there is no upgrade to him it sounds like maybe you are using a torpedo accelerated captain

[awiggin]

 

well, they've now added "ships stats are subject to change" on premiums in the shop or at least of that Italian cruiser i think it was, so now they can do whatever they want to them with that being said that the ships stats are subject to change

 

Well, they can use that line on blanket nerfs, but I'm not sure they would want to deal with the outrage that a direct premium nerf would bring.

[awiggin]

Funny thing my fujin Kamikaze and Kamikaze R Torpedoes or 7 kilometer range and there is no upgrade to him it sounds like maybe you are using a torpedo accelerated captain

 

That's pretty much what everyone is trying to tell him. 5.6 is -20%, really the only explanation.

[_Fantomex_]

Like other have pointed out, you're running torpedo acceleration. Since Kami is a premium, you probably moved the wrong captain into it, or forgot you had respecced him.

[tcbaker777]

 

Well, they can use that line on blanket nerfs, but I'm not sure they would want to deal with the outrage that a direct premium nerf would bring.

 

oh i know, ive heard them say that they wont ever directly nerf them but this removal of invisfire  thing has people losing their minds when they forget if premiums had gotten to keep invisfire it would make the game slightly P2W because you'd have an advantage that no one else could unless they had that ship and no one wants this game to become P2W like.....a certain other game of which i will not say

[11thACRColdsteel]

 

Minekaze's torps were slowed along with (maybe) their detection. Kami is the old version. WG does not nerf Premiums.

 

And also that you used torp acceleration.

you live in a fantasy world, they've nerfed premiums over and over in WOT, and WOWP.  I was hoping they would not follow that bad habit in this game, but clearly they have...

[HKRevolutionOfOurTime]

Do the world a favor and stop running your mouth here.

[tcbaker777]

you live in a fantasy world, they've nerfed premiums over and over in WOT, and WOWP.  I was hoping they would not follow that bad habit in this game, but clearly they have...

 

and im beginning to think OP is a last cause for trying to explain this situation to him

[11thACRColdsteel]

 

That's pretty much what everyone is trying to tell him. 5.6 is -20%, really the only explanation.

what is so hard for you to understand?  If the Kami gets nerfed on stock torp range, but many other DDs don't and they still have +20 range skill available, so the premium gets screwed....it can't compete against other DDs like it originally could when purchased.   The WG shills are out on this one.   They refuse to admit reality that WOWS has nerfed premiums.   And in the Shill world reducing the stock torp range by 1.4 km, when you don't touch other DDs on stock torp range is no problem at all.  WG could whack every single premium, and these shills would deny it ever took place...

[11thACRColdsteel]

 

well, they've now added "ships stats are subject to change" on premiums in the shop or at least of that Italian cruiser i think it was, so now they can do whatever they want to them with that being said that the ships stats are subject to change, its their game, their products, they get to do whatever they want with them and theres nothing you can do

 

there is something we can do.  We can:

 

1) Complain LOUDLY on these forums.

 

2)  Stop buying premiums or greatly reduce the number of premiums we buy.

 

and 3) spread the word so others are on the look out for it so we can call WG out when they do this....make it painful, educate the player base, and it will compel WG to stop...

[awiggin]

what is so hard for you to understand?  If the Kami gets nerfed on stock torp range, but many other DDs don't and they still have +20 range skill available, so the premium gets screwed....it can't compete against other DDs like it originally could when purchased.   The WG shills are out on this one.   They refuse to admit reality that WOWS has nerfed premiums.   And in the Shill world reducing the stock torp range by 1.4 km, when you don't touch other DDs on stock torp range is no problem at all.  WG could whack every single premium, and these shills would deny it ever took place...

 

What are you talking about? There is no +20% skill....

 

Waste of time I guess, either the OP is trolling, or he's completely lost his mind....

[11thACRColdsteel]

 

and im beginning to think OP is a last cause for trying to explain this situation to him

 

ummmmm...the correct phrase is "lost cause" not "last cause."  Regardless if you believe whacking the torp range on a premium, while leaving the torp range as is on many other DDs is not a nerf, then you, sir, are the "lost cause."

[Defiler_of_Reds]

what is so hard for you to understand?  If the Kami gets nerfed on stock torp range, but many other DDs don't and they still have +20 range skill available, so the premium gets screwed....it can't compete against other DDs like it originally could when purchased.   The WG shills are out on this one.   They refuse to admit reality that WOWS has nerfed premiums.   And in the Shill world reducing the stock torp range by 1.4 km, when you don't touch other DDs on stock torp range is no problem at all.  WG could whack every single premium, and these shills would deny it ever took place...

 

Kami has a range of 7 km, only your Kami has a shorter range because of torpedo acceleration. 

[Captain_Dorja]

They didn't nerf your precious torpedoes - as per usual, you reached for your keyboard in outrage long before you decided to use a 2nd graders level of critical thinking.

 

You complain loudly on these forums, as this thread makes clear, but mostly in incoherent, pointless ways. You're the poster child of the boy who called wolf, and ruin your own credibility to the point where if you said that water is wet and boats float, I would advise people to double check those statements because they originated from a source of exceptionally poor reliability.

[RivertheRoyal]

what is so hard for you to understand?  If the Kami gets nerfed on stock torp range, but many other DDs don't and they still have +20 range skill available, so the premium gets screwed....it can't compete against other DDs like it originally could when purchased.   The WG shills are out on this one.   They refuse to admit reality that WOWS has nerfed premiums.   And in the Shill world reducing the stock torp range by 1.4 km, when you don't touch other DDs on stock torp range is no problem at all.  WG could whack every single premium, and these shills would deny it ever took place...

 

The stock range is still 7 km.

Take your captain out of the Kamikaze, then come back and tell us what the torpedoes range is. 

[11thACRColdsteel]

 

What are you talking about? There is no +20% skill....

 

Waste of time I guess, either the OP is trolling, or he's completely lost his mind....

the level 2 skill for Torp acceleration also increases torp range by 20%......you obviously have no clue what you're talking about....​

[awiggin]

the level 2 skill for Torp acceleration also increases torp range by 20%......you obviously have no clue what you're talking about....​

 

Did coldsteel sell his account?