La Galissonniere is not La Galissonniere

[TheKrimzonDemon]

 

A ship with 6x14"' no armour or secondaries? Sounds suspiciously like Myogi...

 

That's exactly what it is.

[TabbyHopkins]

The reason this backfired is because it sounds like you actually do care, at the start of your post.

 

 Had you started it wit hsomething like "Like some other ships in the game, La Gali does not actually represent the real La Gali."

[YamatoA150]

We could very well have had the actual La Galissonniere represented as the A hull in-game, but methinks that WG didn't want you to have access to a float-fighter with the A-hull and then take it away on the B hull... which makes sense I guess.

 

While not quite the same, Saint Louis forces a trade between Catapult Fighter and Speed Boost despite retaining the aircraft facilities, so if one is reusing the same Commander up the tiers, then it's better to just not worry about the catapult planes and take the 1st point elsewhere.  I believe Algerie also loses out on the planes, but Charles regains use of the catapult planes separate from Speed Boost.

 

As far as Kongou being Hiei goes, the trouble is more that the other sister ships also play around with more DPs in addition to more AA, adding to their overall defensive capability.  That aside, I'm still hoping for a T5 set of Kongou sisters; Kongou, Kirishima, and Haruna. They could even be uptiered to T6 with their full outfits (slightly more AA/HP/armor), better accuracy, and longer secondary ranges in compensation (instead of selectively cutting off certain AA mounts), or specialize them.

- T6 Kongou (more self-defense AA, more DPs, less casemates) - Buff the main gun accuracy, and add more HP based on her increased weight.

- T6 Haruna (less casemates, more DPs, less AA than Kongou) - Extend secondary range, buff secondary accuracy, and add more HP based on her increased weight.

- T5 Kirishima (same casemates as Hiei in-game, same DPs, but more AA) - More or less to Hiei what Texas is to New York, but with a bit more HP based on increased weight.

 

Speaking of other ships that are not the class representative, isn't Iowa actually New Jersey?

[Herr_Reitz]

Interesting.... nice photos too... you usually put good ones up, appreciate them. And its a nice looking ship - very modern lines I think.

 

But you are irritated about it... no doubt it's a burr under your saddle or a pea under your mattress.  

Even so, everyone's fine with it ;-) 

[dseehafer]

 

 

 

Speaking of other ships that are not the class representative, isn't Iowa actually New Jersey?

 

​Iowa's A hull is New Jersey, her B and C hulls are Wisconsin.

[dseehafer]

We already knew this, bud.

 

Who's we? There are people in this thread that have commented that they did not know this. No other thread has been made announcing that LG is actually Montcalm and WG certainly didn't make any such announcement.

 

Just because YOU already knew this does not mean we the community already knew this.

[YamatoA150]

​Iowa's A hull is New Jersey, her B and C hulls are Wisconsin.

 

If WG can do that, I don't see why Gali couldn't also be stock hull, just w/o the catapult (it was turret-mounted).

 

But I guess it's about convenience/balance.

[dseehafer]

The reason this backfired is because it sounds like you actually do care, at the start of your post.

 

 Had you started it wit hsomething like "Like some other ships in the game, La Gali does not actually represent the real La Gali."

 

Fair enough

 

Added an Edit to the OP.

[mofton]

Nice, I enjoy the detective work.

[dseehafer]

 

If WG can do that, I don't see why Gali couldn't also be stock hull, just w/o the catapult (it was turret-mounted).

 

But I guess it's about convenience/balance.

 

There are other ships like that in-game too. For example, Konigsberg's A hull is Koln, but her B hull is Konigsberg. Karlsruhe's B hull is Dresden II, but her A hull is actually the Karlsruhe (II).

 

Other "non lead ship of the class" ships, not previously discussed in this thread, in game include Wyoming (which is actually Arkansas), New York (which is actually Texas), South Carolina (which is actually Michigan), Atago (which is actually Takao), and Sims (Don't know which sister she is, but she's not the Sims).

 

And then there are some "Frankenships" which are combinations of different ships in the class. For example, Colorado is a mix of Colorado and Maryland and Yamato is a mix of Yamato and Musashi.

[Eisennagel]

 

 

If its the Montcalm, the ship is therefore, missing the final shell use configuration of the late war.  That would be using USN shells, a 47kg HE shell at 900 mps, and a 59kg shell at 840 mps, these basically the Cleveland's shells thrown at a much higher muzzle velocity.  The ones we got ingame are the pre war to early war shell configuration.

[YamatoA150]

 

There are other ships like that in-game too. For example, Konigsberg's A hull is Koln, but her B hull is Konigsberg. Karlsruhe's B hull is Dresden II, but her A hull is actually the Karlsruhe (II).

 

Other "non lead ship of the class" ships, not previously discussed in this thread, in game include Wyoming (which is actually Arkansas), New York (which is actually Texas), South Carolina (which is actually Michigan), Atago (which is actually Takao), and Sims (Don't know which sister she is, but she's not the Sims).

 

And then there are some "Frankenships" which are combinations of different ships in the class. For example, Colorado is a mix of Colorado and Maryland and Yamato is a mix of Yamato and Musashi.

 

The "frankenships" are fine; working as a semi-generic class representative, and Atago being Takao was pretty well known (mainly because she was repurposed from Alpha to replace Kitakami).

 

The rest I was not as familiar with though, but it's nice to know.

[Phoenix_jz]

Cool, nice work! I always enjoy reading these, especially as it just proves how much effort WG puts into modeling these ships. They truly are beautiful, and finely detailed.

[dseehafer]

Cool, nice work! I always enjoy reading these, especially as it just proves how much effort WG puts into modeling these ships. They truly are beautiful, and finely detailed.

 

I'm rather impressed at my ability to get the size angle of the La Gal's model to match that of the historical aerial photo. Comparing the two and you can see just how accurate WG was, save for the missing motor boats that I mentioned earlier. However, you should note that the hull windows on the model do not match the ones in the picture... this is because our model shows Montcalm as she appeared in 1943 where the picture was taken in 1945. Look at the topmost non-aerial picture that I have of Montcalm, this image was taken in 1943 and you can see that her hull window better match the one on our model. (From what I can tell the only difference between Montcalm 43 and Montcalm 45 is the hull windows. The AA battery is the same for either year. Also, according to navypedia she had some new radars installed in 1945)

[Eisennagel]

 

 

Its kind of irrelevant, since we already long know that the class ship tends to be frankenships, but nice to know that the ship model is closer to Montcalm than any of the sisters.

 

 

[Talleyrand]

Nice detail. 

I dont know if you saw this. Is my little post about Galissoniere. It have a few detailed blueprints maybe you are interested.

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/122670-la-galissonniere-history-and-test/page__fromsearch__1

[capncrunch21]

On ‎4‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 12:26 PM, dseehafer said:

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And just to seal the deal, her AA battery also matches ours perfectly! (Though, the rivet counter in me is wondering why we do not have motor boats behind the C/3 turret like the real thing did )

 

 

 

 

If it makes you feel any better D, here's a pic from the Philadelphia Ship Yards 26 July 1943. (no boats!) 

(Sorry about adding to this thread so late, but I just picked up the ship in-game :P)