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Not to complain about a free ship but I am very disappointed in the the USS Black.   Unlike Flint vs Atlanta, where the Flint is has a slight advantage over the Atlanta,  the Fletcher is hands down better then the Black.   Black has a pathetic torpedo speed of 43kn and a range of 13.7km compared to the Fletcher's speed of 66kn and 10.5km range.  Even if you increase the speed of the torpedo with the torpedo acceleration captain skill......still leaves  torpedo speed under 50kn  with range of 10.5KM which almost any Captain can avoid at that level.    Having the same engine as a Fletcher, the Black is slower and less r  maneuverable (How is that possible).  Granted the Black has the option for radar but it's 20s duration and 7.5km spotting range really does not make it worth losing Engine boost over.   Being a premium ship is an advantage but with the poor specs, I would be more inclined to use another method to train captains.    Am I missing anything that makes the Black even comparable to is counter part?    Hoping WG  makes some modifications to ship, otherwise it will be sitting in dock collecting dust.

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Can I have your Black, if you don't want it? 

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Black is still enough to make enemy fleets cower in fear since they know it takes a good player to earn one of those ships, I much prefer the idea of sinmly destroying the problem, but what can I say. :(

 

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yeah, radar on a highly concealable DD sucks so bad.  Who would ever want that POS?

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Can't tell if troll or serious about the torps

 

In case of OP being serious, just hover over the torps in port and look at the detection range

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I'm sorry, but can we just go back, and stop to think about this for a little bit longer? 

 

OP, you have the Black, one of the most unfair and overpowered DD hunters in the game, and you think it's a bad ship? 

Dude. Really? 

You think the radar isn't worth it? That the nuke tipped stealthy mines it launches are worthless?

 

My god.

Like I said, I'd be willing to take that ship off your hands if there was a way.

Certainly, it would be fun face-rolling other DD's in randoms with her. 

 

However, for now, I'd suggest educating yourself as to the ship you have. It looks like you don't appreciate her enough, nor have you learned about her quirks and specialties. Look up videos on Youtube. Figure out exactly why people are calling her OP as all hell.   

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I love the USS Sims, and it's Sea Mines, so I know I would love USS Black. Fletcher class being my favorite destroyer class.

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Can't tell if troll or serious about the torps

 

In case of OP being serious, just hover over the torps in port and look at the detection range

 

Can't tell if troll or serious about the torps

 

In case of OP being serious, just hover over the torps in port and look at the detection range

 

Granted detection is low (1km).....but with sub 50kn speed it still leaves a ton of time to react  and the slightest change in coarse magnifies the issue. 

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Lol, why does it need to be better than Fletcher? 

Just because people foolishly assumed it would be OP and couldn't stop having a fit about it?

You own something unique, something a very very small amount of players will ever own.

Premiums should be a unique play, like Dunkerque or Graf Spee, not just better ships because they are premium.

 

40 NA players currently have this. You stand out. That and the other rewards should be enough.

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Granted detection is low (1km).....but with sub 50kn speed it still leaves a ton of time to react  and the slightest change in coarse magnifies the issue. 

 

Dude that detection is so low that its almost impossible to dodge unless you are already turning. I've also seen a lot of ships over turn and end up hitting them because the torps are unexpectedly slow which ends up making the torps good imo

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Flamu disagrees (radar apparently nerfed after this review):

Yeah, who cares?

 

German DDs have similar functionality. Their perma spot consumable may be about 2km shorter, but it lasts 6x as long.

Notser IIRC said Black was OP because it could radar a gearing that was ~3km from it, and that made it broken. GERMAN DDS, enough said.

 

Just because they make videos doesn't mean they know what they're talking about.

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Granted detection is low (1km).....but with sub 50kn speed it still leaves a ton of time to react  and the slightest change in coarse magnifies the issue. 

 

Players have something like 7.8 seconds to react to Black's torpedoes. The reaction time for Fletcher's torpedoes is 8.9 sec, last I heard. 

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Flamu disagrees (radar apparently nerfed after this review):

 

 

Notser after the radar nerf:

 

20K damage in a Black OP?

 

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Well, I think it's clear you didn't earn her playing a DD.

 

Anyone who does play DD's would sell at least a few fingers for her.

 

I'd fork over a few toes, personally. I need my fingers. You, you need your head examined. From the inside. With a blender.

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Black is still enough to make enemy fleets cower in fear since they know it takes a good player to earn one of those ships, I much prefer the idea of sinmly destroying the problem, but what can I say. :(

 

Black is enough to get focused heavily in these top tier enviroments. They may be owned by mostly exceptional players, but the target you have on yourself puts you in check.

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Hey if you don't want your USS Black, I'm taking donations.

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In an unrelated video, Flamu pointed out a couple torp reaction times.  The black with torp acceleration is extremely good with something like 8 seconds.

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Flint has a slight advantage over the Atlanta? The ability to make your own cover anywhere without excessive reliance on islands is a slight advantage?

 

 Granted the Black has the option for radar but it's 20s duration and 7.5km spotting range really does not make it worth losing Engine boost over.

 

Dude, one of them gives you marginal benefits. The other one can straight up give you a kill in the first 5 mins.

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Gonna say this once, cause it seems like everyone and their mother doesn't seem to see what I do...and have experienced first hand...

 

Do not, EVER, underestimate 43kn torpedoes ESPECIALLY if they're long ranged like the Black's...in fact, I'd rather have slow long range torps on any DD than really fast torps, even if they're long range. Why?

 

Its all about the bait and switch. Make them watch your left hand and forget the danger in the right hand. After all...most players tend to expect torps coming from the direction of the DD itself... ;)

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Well, I think it's clear you didn't earn her playing a DD.

 

Anyone who does play DD's would sell at least a few fingers for her.

 

I'd fork over a few toes, personally. I need my fingers. You, you need your head examined. From the inside. With a blender.

Play DD's all the time.  You would want your toes back after playing it a few times.    Maybe worth a toe nail.  Guns and detection same as the Fletcher.   Speed slower and it  turns slower then Fletcher.   Torps considerable slower.  Not asking it to be OP just equal in its own way.   To illustrate my point  if a Target is 7.5 km or 10km away, I usually in my Fletcher can get 2-3 torps into a BB.    With the Black, you  may land 1 torp.   You basically have Tier 4 or 5 level torps on a Tier 9 ship.  Granted it is a free ship, but why would I play Black over the Fletcher?

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That radar is what makes the black so scary. Not only that, with radar you can't ever get caught out since the moment you get spotted, you can just pop radar and find what's spotting you. The option over radar also gives you an obscene amount of cap control since no dd can really push you. Granted you do get focused more, but that's because it's such a scary ship. There aren't many dds that want to fight a black given it's radar+smoke combination.

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