3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #1 Posted April 3, 2017 How is this fair? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,476 battles Report post #2 Posted April 3, 2017 it is not fair, but what can WG do about it??? A-nothing... B-see A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,974 [-K--] Spyde Beta Testers 4,841 posts 14,894 battles Report post #3 Posted April 3, 2017 He could have just as easily been on the other team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 43,993 battles Report post #4 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) True, it isn't. I have seen 5 in one side and 3 in the other side, all from the same Clan, in the same battle. Edited April 3, 2017 by alexf24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #5 Posted April 3, 2017 He could have just as easily been on the other team. Then... I will take it a step further and say... What's to stop him from throwing the game (or playing half-assed) if he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
112 anonym_QOibb7dMvRGh Members 557 posts Report post #6 Posted April 3, 2017 It isn't fair. To be honest, people I play with, not in same clan, try and synch drop sometimes; if there are 4 of us and we go with 2 man divs and try and get in the same match. As often as not, we can end up on opposite teams. Honestly, it really is that big a deal. Yeah, kinda a bummer when it happens, but so infrequent, and it is still no guarantee that it gives them an advantage and will win. If they are not very good, then better to have them on the other team. Just roll with it and enjoy the game. Good luck and fair seas! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 AspiringCodger Beta Testers 2,029 posts Report post #7 Posted April 3, 2017 Then... I will take it a step further and say... What's to stop him from throwing the game (or playing half-assed) if he did. I haven't really seen it in Ships, but I saw it several times in Tanks. Friends or clan mates will count in and play normally if on the same team or quite obviously help the others get missions done if on the enemy team. If you can prove that is going on, apparently WG will actually punish them. Good luck though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
532 [5D5] StrykerNC Members 1,664 posts 10,958 battles Report post #8 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) 90% of the time they are on opposing sides. And most of the time they try to kill each other for lolz.. Can't imagine someone "throwing a match" in a random... I suppose this would stop if WG were to introduce, *cough* *cough*.. CLAN BATTLES... Edited April 3, 2017 by LuckyOtter 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,974 [-K--] Spyde Beta Testers 4,841 posts 14,894 battles Report post #9 Posted April 3, 2017 Then... I will take it a step further and say... What's to stop him from throwing the game (or playing half-assed) if he did. Why would they do that ? Its Random battle... not a competition. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,848 [ARRGG] CLUCH_CARGO [ARRGG] Members 5,770 posts Report post #10 Posted April 3, 2017 My Friends and I ( 7 of us ) have Sync Dropped into the same game same side on many occasions, but we dropped on opposite sides in just as many. It happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #11 Posted April 3, 2017 Then... I will take it a step further and say... What's to stop him from throwing the game (or playing half-assed) if he did. I think it is rather unlikely for that to happen in a pub match. Clans generally go after their own first if anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
646 Sotaudi Beta Testers 1,611 posts 10,275 battles Report post #12 Posted April 3, 2017 I would just like to point out that the OP's premise is wrong. There is only one division on either team, and it is a 3 man division. The fact that there is a fourth person from the same clan does not make it a "4 man division." Why is this important? Because a "division" implies that they will be put in the same match on the same team every time. As others have pointed out, queuing simultaneously does not guarantee you will end up in the same match, let alone the same team. Argue if you will that it creates an imbalance if people are intentionally doing this, but having four people in the same match from the same clan, even if they are all on voice communications together, does not make a "4 man division." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 [F-U] templar627 Members 205 posts 3,248 battles Report post #13 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) I can say from personal experience whenever I sync drop with my clan we end up spending more time trying to kill each other if we drop on opposite sides. Edited April 3, 2017 by templar627 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #14 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) I think it is rather unlikely for that to happen in a pub match. Clans generally go after their own first if anything. That's all well and good. I doubt players would throw a match and the ones that would, I would hope wouldn't be in the major clans anyway. I cant think of a time that a player has legitimately thrown a match. One player, even a CV cant really do it. But multiple players, the more the better the chance, can win a match. Tracking Winrate proves that with out question. So back to my original question. How is it even fair to begin with? Edited April 3, 2017 by slak__ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #15 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) I would just like to point out that the OP's premise is wrong. There is only one division on either team, and it is a 3 man division. The fact that there is a fourth person from the same clan does not make it a "4 man division." Why is this important? Because a "division" implies that they will be put in the same match on the same team every time. As others have pointed out, queuing simultaneously does not guarantee you will end up in the same match, let alone the same team. Argue if you will that it creates an imbalance if people are intentionally doing this, but having four people in the same match from the same clan, even if they are all on voice communications together, does not make a "4 man division." If its not a four man div than tell me what to call it? Four players communicating while playing the game and on the same team. Tell me please what that is called? Edited April 3, 2017 by slak__ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,555 [GWG] AVR_Project Members 8,019 posts 15,941 battles Report post #16 Posted April 3, 2017 90% of the time they are on opposing sides. And most of the time they try to kill each other for lolz.. Can't imagine someone "throwing a match" in a random... I suppose this would stop if WG were to introduce, *cough* *cough*.. CLAN BATTLES... If EVERYONE from BOTH sides were on TeamSpeak... It would be like a bunch of people playing cards. It's much less like experiencing real battle, and more like being lined up at the bar on a Saturday night. ... And it's a gut-splitting LOL moment when you're in Teamspeak with your friend on the other team and you are riding a bunch torpedoes up to his ship... Oh the funny experiences to be had... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,544 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway [WOLF5] Members 38,555 posts 31,200 battles Report post #17 Posted April 3, 2017 That's nothing slak__, try this one from an older post of mine. Take a look at the enemy team roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #18 Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) Then... I will take it a step further and say... What's to stop him from throwing the game (or playing half-assed) if he did. In this game? Not a damn thing.... What's even more amazing is the fact that I'm seeing players talking about multiple accounts on this server, considering with alts the possibility of exploiting matches is absurd... Edited April 3, 2017 by awiggin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
182 [F7] SnowDriftTurtle Members 840 posts 10,865 battles Report post #19 Posted April 3, 2017 Clans doing timed drops. Working as intended. In Tanks we were able to get 12 Clan Members in a 30-player random match. 6 on each side. That was great times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 [SIM] LadyJess Members 1,746 posts Report post #20 Posted April 3, 2017 Just the luck of the draw, nothing you can do about this. It happens every now and then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
594 sbcptnitro Members 2,709 posts 17,651 battles Report post #21 Posted April 3, 2017 I think it is rather unlikely for that to happen in a pub match. Clans generally go after their own first if anything. Exactly. You gain nothing by throwing the match, and it's so much fun to go after your own clan mates. We all want the intra-clan bragging rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
613 [CHEEZ] twitch133 Members 2,614 posts 4,941 battles Report post #22 Posted April 3, 2017 Then... I will take it a step further and say... What's to stop him from throwing the game (or playing half-assed) if he did. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,476 battles Report post #23 Posted April 3, 2017 I would just like to point out that the OP's premise is wrong. There is only one division on either team, and it is a 3 man division. The fact that there is a fourth person from the same clan does not make it a "4 man division." Why is this important? Because a "division" implies that they will be put in the same match on the same team every time. As others have pointed out, queuing simultaneously does not guarantee you will end up in the same match, let alone the same team. Argue if you will that it creates an imbalance if people are intentionally doing this, but having four people in the same match from the same clan, even if they are all on voice communications together, does not make a "4 man division." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #24 Posted April 3, 2017 Just the luck of the draw, nothing you can do about this. It happens every now and then. Luck would mean that a player/s wasn't/n't actively trying to gain an advantage, that it was just happenstance that the Fourth player randomly ended up on the team That isn't what happened, what happened is an exploit of the games divisioning mechanics. There is also another name for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,476 battles Report post #25 Posted April 3, 2017 Exactly. You gain nothing by throwing the match, and it's so much fun to go after your own clan mates. We all want the intra-clan bragging rights. I tend to see clan mates in battle often, and they are usually on the red team, so I make sure they are gone first because they are division'd which makes them dangerous to OUR TEAM... (and I am never on TS unless it is a clan thing going on, so I am not involved with them on that level) But it is fun to try to get the good players when I see them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
