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This is a thread I intend to keep updated regarding results screens and possible replays wherein I play the Japanese torpedo boats as torpedo boats, with minimal gun usage. This is largely in response to the recent improvements Japanese destroyer guns received, followed by 0.6.3's heavy-handed nerfing of concealment while using guns, which makes them a complete waste of space on my deck.

 

So I am starting a little campaign against the battleship players who complained so very hard and got their wish. My Yamato is benched. The only tier 10 I play from now on is Shimakaze and the fewer times I fire my guns, the better.

 

My goal is not to win. My goal is to cause as much torpedo damage to battleships (and I suppose cruisers) as possible.

 

(I was previously Destroyer_Kiyoshimo, now AraAragami, hence the different name in the screenshots up to a certain point)

 

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Love the torpedo. Live the Torpedo.

 

 

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TORPEDOES!

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Just kidding. Enjoy the clueless straight line seals!


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And with that "buffed flooding" that WG has applied....

 

Only reason Khab is 24k damage higher than all the other T10 DD is simple. It has the best torps. 


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And with that "buffed flooding" that WG has applied....

 

Only reason Khab is 24k damage higher than all the other T10 DD is simple. It has the best torps. 

 

khaba need more buffs.     with new dispersion bonus,  might be worth going stealth module instead of rudder  :D

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And with that "buffed flooding" that WG has applied....

 

Only reason Khab is 24k damage higher than all the other T10 DD is simple. It has the best torps. 

 

While I doubt it was your intention, Khab actually has stealthier torps than Shima. So for all we know, its criminally underrated torpedoes may be a part of its success as well.

 

I like this idea of spamming torpedoes as punishment though. Maybe WG will remove IJN DD outright next update. Of course, while leaving torpedoes on USN/KM/VMF/RN untouched.

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And with that "buffed flooding" that WG has applied....

 

Only reason Khab is 24k damage higher than all the other T10 DD is simple. It has the best torps. 

 

Yeah no, I get so little flooding damage in IJN torpedo boats largely because their torpedoes also do a bunch of straight up alpha damage. And the few times I do get flooding without killing the target, they instantly repair it.

 

Flooding buff on IJN torpedoes will have 0 effect on them for these reasons.

 

But that's fine, I do 19k a hit with these things. I don't need flooding, I only need to hit once to equal my own HP in damage.


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I do something similar, when there are T10 CVs in queue I always drop queue and come back in my Des Moines.  The objective isn't so much to do a ton of damage, though it happens, the objective is to shoot down 60+ aircraft and make the CV player switch to a real ship out of frustration.

 

I'll join your torpeedus campaign, but I'll be using the Gearing and Fletcher.  :trollface:

 

Oh and the Khabs torps?  The only real problems with them are the slow speed and short range, low damage I guess too, but they still do some damage.  You never really willingly go within 10km of an enemy ship, and ideally not even 12km.  10km detection range isn't even good for a cruiser so your defense is not being hit and running up 2 million potential damage for your team.  When you are forced inside 10km the torpedos can be extremely effective if only because people don't fear the Khabs torps.  If they spot a Shima, they're turning.  If they spot a Khab the last thing on their mind is torps, even if they happen to be at 9.9km.


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I'll join your torpeedus campaign, but I'll be using the Gearing and Fletcher.  :trollface:

 

Feel free to post relevant torpedo-heavy screens and replays then. That goes for everyone who wants to join me in showing our displeasure to the Great Battleship Overlords.


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Enjoy the clueless straight line seals

Been seeing a lot of these around tiers 7 and 8 recently. they've made the kagero grind quite nice.


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Feel free to post relevant torpedo-heavy screens and replays then. That goes for everyone who wants to join me in showing our displeasure to the Great Battleship Overlords.

 

will do that. Similarly in IJN destroyers.

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Spite-induced or not, I can get behind a torpedoboating thread. Permission to join with my German destroyers? :3


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Spite-induced or not, I can get behind a torpedoboating thread. Permission to join with my German destroyers? :3

 

Feel free to post relevant torpedo-heavy screens and replays then. That goes for everyone who wants to join me in showing our displeasure to the Great Battleship Overlords.

 

See quote. Also--

 

 

I goofed and the last 5 seconds was supposed to be the results screen. Oh well, live and learn for next time.

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While I doubt it was your intention, Khab actually has stealthier torps than Shima. So for all we know, its criminally underrated torpedoes may be a part of its success as well.

 

I like this idea of spamming torpedoes as punishment though. Maybe WG will remove IJN DD outright next update. Of course, while leaving torpedoes on USN/KM/VMF/RN untouched.

 

wait, we arent suposed to go stealth build and use khab's torps? Someone didnt give me this memo...

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Kiyo

 

Torp Damage :) 

 

Nazi Torp damage at that. Didn't specify "torp damage only" it just ended up being most effective.

 

Good luck on your quest, tho... I like Shimas guns.


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And with that "buffed flooding" that WG has applied....

 

Only reason Khab is 24k damage higher than all the other T10 DD is simple. It has the best torps. 

Top kek

 

The reason why the khab has high damages is that it constantly does damage all game long with its guns. Torps are a weapon of opportunity in that ship to be used if an opportunity presents itself while you are keeping your guns warm. But what do I know, who needs to actually have a khab to know what makes it click...


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Last game in my Gaede before I researched the Maass.  She went out on a high note.


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When you shoot enough torpedoes, eventually some of them will hit. Fletcher's Torpedo Delivery Service never fails to disappoint. :trollface:


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I remember everyone saying that IJN DD torpedo nerfs were "fine" because the stealth fire from "good IJN gun arcs" would compensate for it. This was nonsense then, IJN gun arcs are actually almost as bad as USN gun arcs and the damage dealt is pathetic, combined with terrible gun handling and the possibility of a DD encounter the IJN DD will always lose. It's now extra nonsense, because there's going to be no stealth fire at all, and IJN DD's slow speed will ensure that it's totally impossible to safely fire their guns.


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I do something similar, when there are T10 CVs in queue I always drop queue and come back in my Des Moines.  The objective isn't so much to do a ton of damage, though it happens, the objective is to shoot down 60+ aircraft and make the CV player switch to a real ship out of frustration.

 

I'll join your torpeedus campaign, but I'll be using the Gearing and Fletcher.  :trollface:

 

Oh and the Khabs torps?  The only real problems with them are the slow speed and short range, low damage I guess too, but they still do some damage.  You never really willingly go within 10km of an enemy ship, and ideally not even 12km.  10km detection range isn't even good for a cruiser so your defense is not being hit and running up 2 million potential damage for your team.  When you are forced inside 10km the torpedos can be extremely effective if only because people don't fear the Khabs torps.  If they spot a Shima, they're turning.  If they spot a Khab the last thing on their mind is torps, even if they happen to be at 9.9km.

Well to be fair it seems that many people forget the Khabarovsk has torps, and they can actually take people by surprise from time to time.  

 

Top kek

 

The reason why the khab has high damages is that it constantly does damage all game long with its guns. Torps are a weapon of opportunity in that ship to be used if an opportunity presents itself while you are keeping your guns warm. But what do I know, who needs to actually have a khab to know what makes it click...

I thought, hoped, that his post was sarcasm....

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Favorite torpedoboat <3

 

Not terrible. Though you did fire your guns, so I can't in good confidence score it 10/10.


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Not terrible. Though you did fire your guns, so I can't in good confidence score it 10/10.

 

I can never resist that bonus fire damage with those 15cm mounts. Most were in self-defense from a Cleveland that was hunting me though.

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wait, we arent suposed to go stealth build and use khab's torps? Someone didnt give me this memo...

 

I'm seriously considering it since I already use stealth spec on Kiev and Tashkent. You can get concealment down to ~7.9km and 56kt 1.1km detection gives enemies only 7 seconds to react. 15k max at 10km range really isn't that bad, nor is the ~2 min base reload speed.

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I'm a noob with no patience for torp boats (I tried to love the IJN line pre-split, I just couldn't do it)...but, I will always love torpedoes and I applaud your initiative. They'll always be my favorite weapons in game, even if I never really get to use them. Torp on!


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