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Ship names: Why Zuiho?

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Every tech tree "line" ship is named after the lead ship of its class. the New York class, the Kongo class, the Minekaze and Kamikaze classes...

 

So why is the tier 5 Japanese carrier named after the second ship in its class?

 

The Shoho class consisted of 2 high speed oilers/submarine support vessels designed from the keel up to be converted into aircraft carriers. Tsurugizaki and Takasaki.

 

Takasaki became Zuiho

Tsurugizaki became Shoho

 

As lead ship of the class, the tier 5 Japanese carrier should be named Shoho.

 

I can't actually make sense of why it was named after Zuiho. WG did correct Tatsuta into Tenryu during CBT, so a name correction isn't something they're unwilling to do.

 

Thoughts?

 

EDIT: As a side note, if WG does adjust the name on this ship, it'd carry parity with the tier 8-- Shoho and Shokaku start with the same kanji. Just like Zuiho and Zuikaku.

Edited by Destroyer_Kiyoshimo

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It's Zuiho-class, get it right.

 

Takasaki (Zuiho) was never completed as intended and was completed as a carrier before Tsurugisaki (Shoho) was recalled and reconstructed.

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It's Zuiho-class, get it right.

 

Takasaki (Zuiho) was never completed as intended and was completed as a carrier before Tsurugisaki (Shoho) was recalled and reconstructed.

 

then our sources disagree. But you don't have to be a prick about it.
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Actually, even though the Zuiho was made later, the Shoho was converted to CV after the Zuiho was converted.

 

It seems to be a Scharnhorst/Gneisnau situation then. My sources treat Shoho as the first ship because she was finished and launched first as Tsurugizaki. But others apparently treat Zuiho as the lead ship because she's the first one finished as a carrier while Tsurugizaki was being remodeled.
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It seems to be a Scharnhorst/Gneisnau situation then. My sources treat Shoho as the first ship because she was finished and launched first as Tsurugizaki. But others apparently treat Zuiho as the lead ship because she's the first one finished as a carrier while Tsurugizaki was being remodeled.

 

This appears to be the case. For the record, I popped into Russian Wikipedia and it calls the ships the "Zuiho-class", but acknowledges that in Japan they're called the "Shoho-class". So it seems that the Russian company chose the Russian naming convention for the class.

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I wonder how they'll handle the Caio Duilio-class?

From Anglo-American sources, you frequently hear it called the 'Andrea Doria'-class... But I have no idea how it's reffered to in Russia...

 

*Edit - just looked on Russia's Wikipedia page...

 

"Андреа Дориа"

 

*sigh"

 

Doria, I guess...

 

 

 

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This appears to be the case. For the record, I popped into Russian Wikipedia and it calls the ships the "Zuiho-class", but acknowledges that in Japan they're called the "Shoho-class". So it seems that the Russian company chose the Russian naming convention for the class.

 

which is funny, because it's Zuiho-class in Japanese wikipedia

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%91%9E%E9%B3%B3%E5%9E%8B%E8%88%AA%E7%A9%BA%E6%AF%8D%E8%89%A6

 

also here you go

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2027084?pool_id=8262

Edited by MrDeaf

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It's probably best this way either way.  Limits confusion between hosho and shoho.

 

I've always seen it called the Zuiho class, for what it's worth.

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Fun fact: when Japanese CVs got first  added Zuihou and was indeed named Shouhou and Shokaku was named Zuikaku 

P.S. Shinano was in pre-alpha/early stages of the game, hopefully it will bookend at tier 10 a new CV line or possibly appear as a premium 

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The fact that Tsurugizaki (later Shoho) got completed first as a submarine tender wouldn't matter to the naming of the carrier since they're two different ship classes.

Zuiho is the first ship of the Zuiho class carriers, Shoho is the second.

 

Same thing happens to Hiyo/Junyo and the Taiyo class

Kashiharamaru was laid down first as the Kashiharamaru class ocean liner, but Hiyo (Izumomaru) was launched first as a carrier and became the lead ship of the Hiyo class carrier.

Nittamaru was the first of the Nittamaru liners, but Taiyo (third ship of the class, Kasugamaru) was completed first as a carrier and became the lead ship of the Taiyo class carriers.

 

Fun fact: when Japanese CVs got first  added Zuihou and was indeed named Shouhou and Shokaku was named Zuikaku 

P.S. Shinano was in pre-alpha/early stages of the game, hopefully it will bookend at tier 10 a new CV line or possibly appear as a premium 

 

Don't think Zuiho was ever called Shoho in the game.. but Shokaku was Zuikaku.  And for the longest time she had Zuikaku's skin with ス on the flight deck for the identification mark.

 

Another bit of carrier trivia

The IJN didn't have a 'light carrier' and 'escort carrier' classification.

They were one of the following, no matter what the size/plane complement.

Fleet carrier - Ships constructed from the keel up as carriers.  (eg: Hosho, Ryujo, Taiho)

Converted carrier - Ships converted from other warships to carriers. (eg: Kaga, Akagi, Zuiho)

Special construction carrier - Ships converted from civilian ships to carriers. (eg: Shinyo, Hiyo)

Edited by Jinxed_Katajainen

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