9,848 [NMKJT] KiyoSenkan Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,895 battles Report post #1 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Every tech tree "line" ship is named after the lead ship of its class. the New York class, the Kongo class, the Minekaze and Kamikaze classes... So why is the tier 5 Japanese carrier named after the second ship in its class? The Shoho class consisted of 2 high speed oilers/submarine support vessels designed from the keel up to be converted into aircraft carriers. Tsurugizaki and Takasaki. Takasaki became Zuiho Tsurugizaki became Shoho As lead ship of the class, the tier 5 Japanese carrier should be named Shoho. I can't actually make sense of why it was named after Zuiho. WG did correct Tatsuta into Tenryu during CBT, so a name correction isn't something they're unwilling to do. Thoughts? EDIT: As a side note, if WG does adjust the name on this ship, it'd carry parity with the tier 8-- Shoho and Shokaku start with the same kanji. Just like Zuiho and Zuikaku. Edited March 17, 2017 by Destroyer_Kiyoshimo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,901 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 15,874 posts 12,803 battles Report post #2 Posted March 17, 2017 It's Zuiho-class, get it right. Takasaki (Zuiho) was never completed as intended and was completed as a carrier before Tsurugisaki (Shoho) was recalled and reconstructed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,848 [NMKJT] KiyoSenkan Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,895 battles Report post #3 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) It's Zuiho-class, get it right. Takasaki (Zuiho) was never completed as intended and was completed as a carrier before Tsurugisaki (Shoho) was recalled and reconstructed. then our sources disagree. But you don't have to be a prick about it. Edited March 17, 2017 by Destroyer_Kiyoshimo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
521 [HINON] Admiral_Franz_von_Hipper Members 2,136 posts 5,764 battles Report post #4 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Actually, even though the Zuiho was made later, the Shoho was converted to CV after the Zuiho was converted. Source 1 Source 2 Edited March 17, 2017 by Admiral_Franz_von_Hipper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,848 [NMKJT] KiyoSenkan Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,895 battles Report post #5 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Actually, even though the Zuiho was made later, the Shoho was converted to CV after the Zuiho was converted. It seems to be a Scharnhorst/Gneisnau situation then. My sources treat Shoho as the first ship because she was finished and launched first as Tsurugizaki. But others apparently treat Zuiho as the lead ship because she's the first one finished as a carrier while Tsurugizaki was being remodeled. Edited March 17, 2017 by Destroyer_Kiyoshimo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
655 PelicanHazard Members 2,632 posts 10,276 battles Report post #6 Posted March 17, 2017 It seems to be a Scharnhorst/Gneisnau situation then. My sources treat Shoho as the first ship because she was finished and launched first as Tsurugizaki. But others apparently treat Zuiho as the lead ship because she's the first one finished as a carrier while Tsurugizaki was being remodeled. This appears to be the case. For the record, I popped into Russian Wikipedia and it calls the ships the "Zuiho-class", but acknowledges that in Japan they're called the "Shoho-class". So it seems that the Russian company chose the Russian naming convention for the class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,841 [HINON] Phoenix_jz Privateers, In AlfaTesters 7,775 posts 2,137 battles Report post #7 Posted March 17, 2017 I wonder how they'll handle the Caio Duilio-class?From Anglo-American sources, you frequently hear it called the 'Andrea Doria'-class... But I have no idea how it's reffered to in Russia... *Edit - just looked on Russia's Wikipedia page... "Андреа Дориа" *sigh" Doria, I guess... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,901 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 15,874 posts 12,803 battles Report post #8 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) This appears to be the case. For the record, I popped into Russian Wikipedia and it calls the ships the "Zuiho-class", but acknowledges that in Japan they're called the "Shoho-class". So it seems that the Russian company chose the Russian naming convention for the class. which is funny, because it's Zuiho-class in Japanese wikipedia https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%91%9E%E9%B3%B3%E5%9E%8B%E8%88%AA%E7%A9%BA%E6%AF%8D%E8%89%A6 also here you go http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2027084?pool_id=8262 Edited March 17, 2017 by MrDeaf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,512 [0O0O0] atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,187 battles Report post #9 Posted March 17, 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
426 [ARP2] Hatework Members 1,369 posts 3,667 battles Report post #10 Posted March 17, 2017 It's probably best this way either way. Limits confusion between hosho and shoho. I've always seen it called the Zuiho class, for what it's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
488 [OKAYU] Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Takao Alpha Tester 1,375 posts 12,618 battles Report post #11 Posted March 17, 2017 Fun fact: when Japanese CVs got first added Zuihou and was indeed named Shouhou and Shokaku was named Zuikaku P.S. Shinano was in pre-alpha/early stages of the game, hopefully it will bookend at tier 10 a new CV line or possibly appear as a premium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,337 [NDA] Jinxed_Katajainen Alpha Tester 6,193 posts 4,955 battles Report post #12 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) The fact that Tsurugizaki (later Shoho) got completed first as a submarine tender wouldn't matter to the naming of the carrier since they're two different ship classes. Zuiho is the first ship of the Zuiho class carriers, Shoho is the second. Same thing happens to Hiyo/Junyo and the Taiyo class Kashiharamaru was laid down first as the Kashiharamaru class ocean liner, but Hiyo (Izumomaru) was launched first as a carrier and became the lead ship of the Hiyo class carrier. Nittamaru was the first of the Nittamaru liners, but Taiyo (third ship of the class, Kasugamaru) was completed first as a carrier and became the lead ship of the Taiyo class carriers. Fun fact: when Japanese CVs got first added Zuihou and was indeed named Shouhou and Shokaku was named Zuikaku P.S. Shinano was in pre-alpha/early stages of the game, hopefully it will bookend at tier 10 a new CV line or possibly appear as a premium Don't think Zuiho was ever called Shoho in the game.. but Shokaku was Zuikaku. And for the longest time she had Zuikaku's skin with ス on the flight deck for the identification mark. Another bit of carrier trivia The IJN didn't have a 'light carrier' and 'escort carrier' classification. They were one of the following, no matter what the size/plane complement. Fleet carrier - Ships constructed from the keel up as carriers. (eg: Hosho, Ryujo, Taiho) Converted carrier - Ships converted from other warships to carriers. (eg: Kaga, Akagi, Zuiho) Special construction carrier - Ships converted from civilian ships to carriers. (eg: Shinyo, Hiyo) Edited March 17, 2017 by Jinxed_Katajainen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites