477 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,205 battles Report post #1 Posted March 14, 2017 So I'm watching this and I'm thinking I'm not going to get this boat. I looked at that citadel & i was like woah. I generally try to get the more interesting / historical ones and even though this is historical...it's really lack luster. I'm thinking that if you have the time and desire, to skip this and just try to grind out the Missouri..or use the $$ on the missou and unlock the XP instead of this. Missou will be smack in the middle or top tier most of the time, whereas the Alabama may get put as top tier, but something tells me, more often than not, you'll either be bottom tier or mid most of the time with those few rare games coming around where you're top dog. It seems while this thing does have some punching power, it will get knocked around by just about anything. I think I'm going to pass on the 'bama. what do others think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,102 [-ARP-] Goose21891 Supertester 11,964 posts 6,258 battles Report post #2 Posted March 14, 2017 I think you should look at some more reviews first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,389 [SWFSH] Fast_Battleship_Iowa [SWFSH] Beta Testers 2,504 posts 6,178 battles Report post #3 Posted March 14, 2017 Alabama may have a monster TDS but I never had problems with torpedoes. NC is superior to the Alabama, and in terms of premiums Missouri will completely outclass Alabama as a credit/XP earner. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,214 [-K-] Lord_Zath SuperTest Coordinator, WoWS Community Contributors 5,969 posts 22,141 battles Report post #4 Posted March 14, 2017 Answer: 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
89 [JUGGZ] Mordran Members 256 posts 2,930 battles Report post #5 Posted March 14, 2017 Depends on why you want it. If you want a money/XP earner, nothing touches the Missouri. I can't say how "fun" the Alabama is until I try it so maybe that's a selling point, but the Missouri plays like an Iowa so there's something to measure it against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,795 [SYN] IronWolfV [SYN] Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 5,705 battles Report post #6 Posted March 14, 2017 I look at it this way, Alabama will be a cheaper alternative to Missouri. Unless you have the time to grind and I don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
788 DerKrampus Members 1,853 posts 3,584 battles Report post #7 Posted March 14, 2017 The main weakness of the Alabama is echoed in the Missouri: a tall, easy to hit citadel. If you can't make one work, you won't be able to make the other one work, either. The Missouri has added utility against DDs, in the form of radar. Then again, the torpedo bulges on the Alabama are definitely a thing. Missouri is far and away the better credit earner, unless there's something to 'bama I'm not seeing. I can say that the Mo is currently the holder of my personal damage record. I can also say that it's by no means an easy ship to play. If you have the free XP available, I'd personally go for the Mo, due to its downright stupid credit earning potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
477 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,205 battles Report post #8 Posted March 14, 2017 I think you should look at some more reviews first. no, i would agree with flamu. making a brawler, that can be easily cit penned by t6, whose cit sit just as high out of the water as some cruisers, but has great torp reduction is counter intuitive. this will be another BB that people will be afraid to push with and fail at sniping with it due to it's bad accuracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
523 MorbidGamer Members 2,255 posts Report post #9 Posted March 14, 2017 Def the Alabama... It's small, turns WAY better and it's a lot cheaper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
477 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,205 battles Report post #10 Posted March 14, 2017 The main weakness of the Alabama is echoed in the Missouri: a tall, easy to hit citadel. If you can't make one work, you won't be able to make the other one work, either. The Missouri has added utility against DDs, in the form of radar. Then again, the torpedo bulges on the Alabama are definitely a thing. Missouri is far and away the better credit earner, unless there's something to 'bama I'm not seeing. I can say that the Mo is currently the holder of my personal damage record. I can also say that it's by no means an easy ship to play. If you have the free XP available, I'd personally go for the Mo, due to its downright stupid credit earning potential. That's kind of what i'm saying. I have the Missou too and it just seems like over all, dollar per dollar, the Missou gets you a much better boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
788 DerKrampus Members 1,853 posts 3,584 battles Report post #11 Posted March 14, 2017 no, i would agree with flamu. making a brawler, that can be easily cit penned by t6, whose cit sit just as high out of the water as some cruisers, but has great torp reduction is counter intuitive. this will be another BB that people will be afraid to push with and fail at sniping with it due to it's bad accuracy. What if I told you it's not a brawler, but a mid-range bow-fighter? *Insert Morpheus Here* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,097 [KNMSU] Battlecruiser_Repulse Members 7,086 posts 7,766 battles Report post #12 Posted March 14, 2017 Don't waste free XP on Missouri. For that much free XP, you could basically "buy" a full BB tree... so, like, a Yamato or a Montana or something. They won't grind credits like a Missouri will (but they will do very well with premium camouflage), but the first time you break a Missouri's back with a single Yamato salvo, you'll thank yourself for not getting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
477 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,205 battles Report post #13 Posted March 14, 2017 What if I told you it's not a brawler, but a mid-range bow-fighter? *Insert Morpheus Here* i'll skip both the red & blue pill, take the green and hop in the dunkeroo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
788 DerKrampus Members 1,853 posts 3,584 battles Report post #14 Posted March 14, 2017 i'll skip both the red & blue pill, take the green and hop in the dunkeroo It's not so much a pill, as a capsule of pure ghost pepper extract. That thing fire-trolls so hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
582 CybrSlydr Beta Testers 2,094 posts 2,152 battles Report post #15 Posted March 14, 2017 Personally, I think the Missouri. It's getting the fixed citadel the Iowa/Monty is, so it'll be a bit more durable. It also has the 16"/50 instead of the /45s, so it's got a much flatter trajectory than the Alabama. Couple that with the credit earning potential of a Tier 9 premium, I think the Missouri is the better ship - though you'll probably be paying twice what the Alabama costs in Doubloons to convert the XP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,452 [REVY] Sventex Members 8,099 posts 6,118 battles Report post #16 Posted March 14, 2017 The Missouri is the more expensive ship, but she can also mount the all important Artillery Plotting Room 2 and she has radar, making her the more flexible ship. What the Alabama has, the NC can do better in almost every way. If the Alabama is inexpensive, I'd pick her up instead, cause I don't own any USN premiums, and I really like the NC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,259 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Supertester 27,191 posts 14,754 battles Report post #17 Posted March 14, 2017 Alabama may have a monster TDS but I never had problems with torpedoes. NC is superior to the Alabama, and in terms of premiums Missouri will completely outclass Alabama as a credit/XP earner. This and the Missouri doesn't have to cost any real money unless you get impatient and convert experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,097 [KNMSU] Battlecruiser_Repulse Members 7,086 posts 7,766 battles Report post #18 Posted March 14, 2017 The Missouri is the more expensive ship, but she can also mount the all important Artillery Plotting Room 2 and she has radar, making her the more flexible ship. What the Alabama has, the NC can do better in almost every way. If the Alabama is inexpensive, I'd pick her up instead, cause I don't own any USN premiums, and I really like the NC. I think we can bank on Alabama being a $70ish boat. That's what they like to charge for tier 8 BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,452 [REVY] Sventex Members 8,099 posts 6,118 battles Report post #19 Posted March 14, 2017 I think we can bank on Alabama being a $70ish boat. That's what they like to charge for tier 8 BBs. If so, then I'll pass, cause the NC premium camo is a whole lot cheaper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,323 [NERO] TTK_Aegis Members 3,630 posts Report post #20 Posted March 14, 2017 So do you think they made Alabama underwhelming out of spite for all the complaining going on when it was supposed to be for testers only? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
613 twitch133 Members 2,614 posts 3,604 battles Report post #21 Posted March 14, 2017 Alabama will probably be a much better bang for the buck scenario. If you don't grind out the free XP, it will cost probably twice as much as Alabame will to convert enough to buy Missouri. But... Missouri is going to be getting its citadel lowered along with Montana and Iowa... (or so rumor has it) Where Alabama will still have a Citadel that sits higher out of the water than Everest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,097 [KNMSU] Battlecruiser_Repulse Members 7,086 posts 7,766 battles Report post #22 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) So do you think they made Alabama underwhelming out of spite for all the complaining going on when it was supposed to be for testers only? Actually, I think the ship is pretty reflective of American high tier play - decent accuracy, big guns, modest speed, strong AA, and a belt made out of glass. A more applicable question is: did WG punish the USN battleships as a whole because they were spiteful over the end result of the cold war, and had a desire to "put the USA in its place"...? Edited March 14, 2017 by IJN_Hyuga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,795 [SYN] IronWolfV [SYN] Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 5,705 battles Report post #23 Posted March 14, 2017 I think we can bank on Alabama being a $70ish boat. That's what they like to charge for tier 8 BBs. Why? Tirpitz was on it's own without a package 51 dollars? Why would Alabama be 70? If anything she'll cost as much as Tirpitz. So Alabama will be easily less than half the cost of conversion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,097 [KNMSU] Battlecruiser_Repulse Members 7,086 posts 7,766 battles Report post #24 Posted March 14, 2017 Why? Tirpitz was on it's own without a package 51 dollars? Why would Alabama be 70? If anything she'll cost as much as Tirpitz. So Alabama will be easily less than half the cost of conversion. Tirpitz initially cost close to $80 as I recall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,795 [SYN] IronWolfV [SYN] Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 5,705 battles Report post #25 Posted March 14, 2017 Tirpitz initially cost close to $80 as I recall. What? No. Her ultimate package was. Ship on it's on was 51 bucks, which is what I spent on it when it came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
